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December 31, 2012 10:15:30 AM

I'm purchasing a laptop http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/asus-asus-essent... in a few days its a insane price for the spec but one thing I'm worried about is the cpu i've heard some pretty bad things about it. can someone clarify just how bad it is? can I stick a 7870 in here and the cpu would bottleneck it?


Also... how good of a desktop is this for it's price?

ps: If anyone wants to do some looking around on the futureshop website for a better desktop then this in the 500-700 be my guest :sol: 

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December 31, 2012 10:27:01 AM

NEVER buy prebuilt systems in my opinion, I can garentee you that you would need to replace the PSU in that system before you could run an HD7870 with it.
I can almost also garentee you that building it yourself will be cheaper.
You also have longer warranties on custom built PC.
You know of what quality the parts are in the PC.
The 8150 is made for OCing, you will probably not be able to do that on a prebuilt system(will be BIOS locked and insufficient PSU).
Compatibility issues with chassis, PSU and GPU are ALWAYS in issue with prebuilt system and they NEVER have adequate cooling.

What is your budget for a system?

Use the below template and I will compile something for you.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgra...

One more thing to keep in mind, if you go the AMD route I would suggest not going for Bulldozer. They are not gaming CPUs. Either Piledriver or much better Intel.
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December 31, 2012 10:37:29 AM

How is "10" G ram Possible ??
2 * 5 ?
2 * 4 + 2 ?
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December 31, 2012 10:41:36 AM

SkyWalker1726 said:
How is "10" G ram Possible ??
2 * 5 ?
2 * 4 + 2 ?


8GB+2GB?
4GB+4GB+2GB?

They do that on pre-builds for some unknownfuckingreason...
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December 31, 2012 10:45:14 AM

Not a good setup for gaming st all. You'd be better off to build your own. With piledriver if you want AMD
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December 31, 2012 10:51:44 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next month.

Budget Range:600-700$CA

System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming is the most important.

Are you buying a monitor:No, Have one.

Parts to Upgrade:Most likely building it from the ground up.

Do you need to buy OS: No.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:I have 150$ in gift cards for FutureShop so for one of the items or a couple from there, the rest wherever.

Location:British Columbia, Canada.

Parts Preferences: Doesn't matter to me, Whichever fits in the budget.

Overclocking:Yes

SLI or Crossfire:Maybe in the future.

Your Monitor Resolution:Honestly not sure anyone, its fairly old.

Additional Comments: ---------------------------

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Don't currently own a decent desktop.
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December 31, 2012 10:55:47 AM

Can you use newegg in canada? I think thats where you are.

Is your budget including the gift card or excluding it?
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December 31, 2012 10:56:59 AM

Also, I've never built a desktop in my life. I mean I have common sense and I know how to search youtube.. the only part that seemed a bit sketchy was the heatsink and all that with the thermal paste ? how hard is it on a scale of 1-10 :p  thanks for all you're help an
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December 31, 2012 10:57:25 AM

Yea I can use Newegg
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December 31, 2012 11:00:58 AM

jfly604 said:
Also, I've never built a desktop in my life. I mean I have common sense and I know how to search youtube.. the only part that seemed a bit sketchy was the heatsink and all that with the thermal paste ? how hard is it on a scale of 1-10 :p  thanks for all you're help an


Is your budget including the gift card or excluding it?

I would say its about a 4 at most. Its actually very simple these days.
http://techreport.com/review/23624/how-to-build-a-pc-th...

There is a guide with clear videos and stuff.

Just takes some patients.
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December 31, 2012 11:04:17 AM

Including, I'd say 600 cash 150 in the card. Would be more comfortable to say 700 all together but 750 is fine.
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December 31, 2012 11:07:54 AM

jfly604 said:
Including, I'd say 600 cash 150 in the card. Would be more comfortable to say 700 all together but 750 is fine.


And the HD7870? Do you have it already or plan to get it later?
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December 31, 2012 11:11:22 AM

No, haven't purchased it. I was just planning on upgrading the 7670m to the 7870 if it was compatible.

Pick whichever is the best bang for my buck it was just an idea.
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December 31, 2012 11:18:03 AM

jfly604 said:
No, haven't purchased it. I was just planning on upgrading the 7670m to the 7870 if it was compatible.

Pick whichever is the best bang for my buck it was just an idea.


The link you posted is not a laptop and neither does it have HD7870m graphics...
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December 31, 2012 11:22:05 AM

Reliable motherboard but not the best OC, your budget is tight.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
85

CPU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
180

A nice reliable, stable and modular power supply.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
80

A nice case :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
80

Hdd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
80

RAM, 8GB is over enough and will be fater than 10 because it runs in duel channel.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
46

DVD drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
18

This comes to a total of 569 without gift card use.
This system is BETTER and CHEAPER than the one you saw. But since you don't have graphics on either of the two you will either need a bigger budget or you could go intel and have integrated graphics that suck anyway..

Use the gift card for a better screen. Thats all futureshop is good for it seems.

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/samsung-samsung-...
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December 31, 2012 11:24:07 AM

I know, I was just saying that the desktop I had in that link came with 7670m 2gb gpu and I was planning on swapping it out for a 7870m. Im not very knowledgable so sorry if I dont know what im talking about :p 
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December 31, 2012 11:30:40 AM

What do you think about the HD7750 1gb ddr5 for a temporary gpu its 129$ at futureshop
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December 31, 2012 11:33:35 AM

jfly604 said:
I know, I was just saying that the desktop I had in that link came with 7670m 2gb gpu and I was planning on swapping it out for a 7870m. Im not very knowledgable so sorry if I dont know what im talking about :p 


7670 is a horrid graphics card.

The HD7770 is the minimum I would suggest.

So the system I suggested plus the HD7750 or HD7770 still comes in under your budget and is much better than the one you linked...
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December 31, 2012 11:38:41 AM

Awsome thanks for all you're help man it saved me from probably a big mistake. I think ill go with the 7770 since it's right around my budget. thanks for taking the time to help. Would you happen to know what settings I would be able to play BF3 and other demandings games on with this rig + the 7770??
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December 31, 2012 11:49:28 AM

jfly604 said:
Awsome thanks for all you're help man it saved me from probably a big mistake. I think ill go with the 7770 since it's right around my budget. thanks for taking the time to help. Would you happen to know what settings I would be able to play BF3 and other demandings games on with this rig + the 7770??


It really depends on your monitor, since its really old I should think it is of low resolution, so you should be able to almost max out BF3.

But once you upgrade the screen that will not be the case.

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December 31, 2012 12:02:56 PM

Thanks alot man much appreciated, One last question. Does this rig have an extra Pci slot??
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December 31, 2012 12:03:01 PM

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