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November 16, 2012 5:18:34 PM

Hi, I'd like to know which GTX 670 would be best for me. It's going in a fractal design define R4 case so it's gotta run cool I suppose.

I'll hope to play games on max settings as well as heavily modded skyrim.
(BTW, how much VRAM will I need to have Skyrim looking its best? Maybe you could recommend a few mods?)

Thanks,

Paul

More about : gtx 670

November 16, 2012 5:37:20 PM

prototype18 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i would go with this.Had Evga cards (5 till know and none failed)


Hi, thanks for the suggestion. This is the first PC I've built so I'm still learning the ropes, but that is a reference cooler, no? I'm not sure it'll be cool enough in my case. It's going for a good price tho, about £310 which would be in around my budget.

What about this... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0082FIW96/ref=ox_sc...

Quick Q... Asus, Evga, MSI would be the top three GPU suppliers, yes?
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a b U Graphics card
November 16, 2012 5:46:19 PM

Edit : Just made a quick search and the Asus u mentioned is the best one to buy since u are thinking about cooling.

And yes : Asus DC / EVGA / Msi TF .Even gigabyte has a nice rep.
a b U Graphics card
November 16, 2012 6:03:06 PM

the 670 FTW is unique in the way that it actually USES a 680 reference cooler on a 680 PCB, even though its using a 670 PSU. Trust me, this card is extremely popular and will not disappoint. Its good in a small case (I think that is what the R4 is?).

If you really want a good quiet cooling card, a DCII 670 by Asus will do well as well.
a b U Graphics card
November 16, 2012 6:04:09 PM

All depends on if he's going to over clock it himself or not.

If he's not overclocking, he should get the Zotac GTX 670 Amp! edition (factory overclocked 1.1 ghz core and 150 mhz memory overclock) but that is $420 (on amazon)

If that's too expensive, then get the EVGA GTX 670 FTW which is on a GTX 680 board and cooler and it' factory overclocked to 1 ghz and it is $390 on newegg.

If you want to overclock yourself, get the Asus DC2 ($420 version on newegg) since it's got the best cooler (but no guarantee on the chip quality though)





And since you're playing a heavily modded skyrim, you should look at ATI cards. Cause 2 GB vram won't be enough.

Best ATI card for around 310 pounds. But it's going to be pretty loud since it's on a stock ATI reference cooler.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-21197-00-40G-Graphics-...
a b U Graphics card
November 16, 2012 6:07:43 PM

Oo, playing a heavily modded skyrim are we?

You may need more than 2GB of Video Ram, especially at 1080p. Depends on the mods.
November 16, 2012 6:38:17 PM

JJ1217 said:
the 670 FTW is unique in the way that it actually USES a 680 reference cooler on a 680 PCB, even though its using a 670 PSU. Trust me, this card is extremely popular and will not disappoint. Its good in a small case (I think that is what the R4 is?).

If you really want a good quiet cooling card, a DCII 670 by Asus will do well as well.


It's really that much better? I thought there were rumours not too long ago that evga was to recall some cards, the FTW I believe. Could be very wrong tho...


JJ1217 said:
Oo, playing a heavily modded skyrim are we?

You may need more than 2GB of Video Ram, especially at 1080p. Depends on the mods.


:lol:  Yeah, I'm not sure if adding some of the more popular texture mods would count as "heavily modding." Is there anyway I can see how much VRAM each mod will cost before downloading?
a b U Graphics card
November 16, 2012 6:57:40 PM

It was the superclocked version that was called back, and thats fixed now. The FTW replaced the superclocked I believe, while they were having issues.

That 4GB 670 looks nice like what protoype selected above for you. Its a good card. If you're using the 2k resolution mod you might need the extra video ram. I feel that 4GB is too much, so perhaps consider going the AMD route with a 7970.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is considered the best 7970. Great cooling, clocks and overclockability, as well as one of the oldest Radeon makers.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

a Good 7970 that'll do the job.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

an Asus 670 4GB, a bit more expensive than the Evga but much better cooling and much quieter.




November 16, 2012 7:02:01 PM

I have the GTX 670 FTW and runs very cool and silent compared to my GTX 560 sc and I don't even have the fan on the 670 cranked way up (60-70%)and runs 20 c cooler than that GTX 560 with fan always running at 90-100% very happy with the card, just my 2cents
November 16, 2012 7:55:32 PM

prototype18 said:
So i think that u are from uk as u sent the Asus link from UK.

So

FTW

http://www.cclonline.com/product/86958/02G-P4-2678-KR/G...

OR Asus

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0082FIW96/?tag=pcp0f-21

Those are the cheapest i could find .

The 7970 are way to high . 351 and 371 paund so its up to you


Yeah im from the uk, and just to be clear I mainly need the card to be..

  • Reliable
  • Quiet
  • Great performance
  • Great cooling
  • Hopefully able to run 2k textures and maybe ENB in Skyrim
  • Preferably Nvidia. Physx is purdy :love: 
  • Not too expensive, around £320 maybe.

    £371... Really? I found this for £300 ~ http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-7970-Radeon-Graphics-C...
    a b U Graphics card
    November 16, 2012 8:05:03 PM

    Was saying about the Sapphire one :) 

    And about ur first concern get the Asus one :)  cuz i see u are worried about the HEAT. But as osoben said that card its not that hot (Evga 670 FTW)

    But asus its even cooler. I dont know what GTX 560 TI he has cuz mine on 50 % Fan playing BF3 gets up to 67C.

    BUT if u are bettwen Gtx 670 and 7970 the 7970 hand's down.

    It is even 1 tier above the Gtx 670.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

    And it OC pretty nice

    So i end it here

    U want physx and adaptive sync ----> Gtx 670

    Else 7970
    a b U Graphics card
    November 16, 2012 8:59:19 PM

    prototype18 said:
    Was saying about the Sapphire one :) 

    And about ur first concern get the Asus one :)  cuz i see u are worried about the HEAT. But as osoben said that card its not that hot (Evga 670 FTW)

    But asus its even cooler. I dont know what GTX 560 TI he has cuz mine on 50 % Fan playing BF3 gets up to 67C.

    BUT if u are bettwen Gtx 670 and 7970 the 7970 hand's down.

    It is even 1 tier above the Gtx 670.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

    And it OC pretty nice

    So i end it here

    U want physx and adaptive sync ----> Gtx 670

    Else 7970


    PhysX can be used on AMD, take Borderlands 2 for example, however it takes a much more performance hit than Nvidia cards, just like Nvidia cards take a higher performance hit from resolutions and Anti Aliasing. If the dev of the game puts PhysX in the ingame settings, it can generally be used.

    Adaptive V-Sync is nice, but not all too great, like PhysX its not a buying point of a card.

    The reason I suggested AMD was the fact that it has higher video ram, and you were suggesting 2GB, which would probably not be enough especially with the 2k texture pack, and definitely with ENB.


    a b U Graphics card
    November 16, 2012 9:01:23 PM

    JJ1217 said:
    PhysX can be used on AMD, take Borderlands 2 for example, however it takes a much more performance hit than Nvidia cards, just like Nvidia cards take a higher performance hit from resolutions and Anti Aliasing. If the dev of the game puts PhysX in the ingame settings, it can generally be used.

    Adaptive V-Sync is nice, but not all too great, like PhysX its not a buying point of a card.

    The reason I suggested AMD was the fact that it has higher video ram, and you were suggesting 2GB, which would probably not be enough especially with the 2k texture pack, and definitely with ENB.


    Thats why i wrote what i wrote :) 
    November 19, 2012 1:56:25 PM

    JJ1217 said:
    PhysX can be used on AMD, take Borderlands 2 for example, however it takes a much more performance hit than Nvidia cards, just like Nvidia cards take a higher performance hit from resolutions and Anti Aliasing. If the dev of the game puts PhysX in the ingame settings, it can generally be used.

    Adaptive V-Sync is nice, but not all too great, like PhysX its not a buying point of a card.

    The reason I suggested AMD was the fact that it has higher video ram, and you were suggesting 2GB, which would probably not be enough especially with the 2k texture pack, and definitely with ENB.


    Ok guys, I've decided I'll need a lot of VRAM so I've narrowed my choice down to two nvidia cards for about the same price..

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-GTX-Graphics-Card-Backplat...

    Or

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0096EXIQ4/ref=ox_sc...

    I'm leaning towards the asus cause they seem to make well built and sturdy products.

    Which of these two cards would you recommend considering it has to be both cool & quiet.

    Thanks
    November 19, 2012 2:24:58 PM

    Also does anyone know what kind of fps to expect with mods like texture pack combiner installed? Or does it not make a difference until it hits the vram limit?

    Hopefully that makes sense... :D 

    Cheers,

    P
    a b U Graphics card
    November 19, 2012 4:14:50 PM

    Pmckenna said:
    Ok guys, I've decided I'll need a lot of VRAM so I've narrowed my choice down to two nvidia cards for about the same price..

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-GTX-Graphics-Card-Backplat...

    Or

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0096EXIQ4/ref=ox_sc...

    I'm leaning towards the asus cause they seem to make well built and sturdy products.

    Which of these two cards would you recommend considering it has to be both cool & quiet.

    Thanks


    Personally i would choose the EVGA FTW. Iv been so good with evga with more than 5 card's till now.

    U have 4GB and that is hard to use all at 1080p :) 

    U will be more than ok with that card.

    And about the fps

    I know by a friend that he has tons of mod's on skyrim and he has GTX 570 Skyrim maxed and he gets 60+ fps all time.

    670 FTW is way above the 570.

    So i guess that suffice you and all of your mods D:

    a b U Graphics card
    November 19, 2012 5:06:06 PM

    prototype18 said:
    Personally i would choose the EVGA FTW. Iv been so good with evga with more than 5 card's till now.

    U have 4GB and that is hard to use all at 1080p :) 

    U will be more than ok with that card.

    And about the fps

    I know by a friend that he has tons of mod's on skyrim and he has GTX 570 Skyrim maxed and he gets 60+ fps all time.

    670 FTW is way above the 570.

    So i guess that suffice you and all of your mods D:


    That's not an FTW, its a standard reference cooler, unlike the FTW. Out of those two choices, I would definitely go for the Asus one. Great cooler.
    a b U Graphics card
    November 19, 2012 5:11:34 PM

    Ah i didnt notice it. Cuz i recomended him the FTW in my previouses post's.

    Yes i think too that u should get the Asus one over that. Only if its FTW u must get it.
    November 19, 2012 6:01:14 PM


    Thanks guys, I know 4gb of VRAM sounds like overkill (probably cuz it is..) but I've heard talk about guys running upto 3.5gb in textures & other mods. Especially with mods like texture pack combiner, W.A.T.E.R etc..

    prototype18 said:
    Ah i didnt notice it. Cuz i recomended him the FTW in my previouses post's.

    Yes i think too that u should get the Asus one over that. Only if its FTW u must get it.


    Is the FTW Much better? It's not exactly a great leap from the price point I'm at now so, if it's quiet & cool I'll consider it.

    Is there any other games out there that would need over 3gb of VRAM? Just so I don't feel I'm spending so much to accommodate just one game :lol:  . Metro maybe?
    a b U Graphics card
    November 19, 2012 6:05:41 PM

    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18284...

    Here it is :D 

    The game was "intended" to work on 512Mb cards and to have a optional DLC for folks with 1Gb cards.

    Watch that review.

    Gtx 670 FTW uses the 680 board and cooler . Its way better than normal 670 :) 

    http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/40613-evga-gefor...

    If you put Skyrim HD Lite on top of that it is still under 1Gb. If you start adding more textures such as Skyrim HD FULL then it goes to around 1.5Gb.

    Now imagine you are the sort of person who wants ultra-HD 4096 textures everywhere then it can easily get up to 3Gb of VRAM.
    November 19, 2012 8:00:22 PM

    I have a reference EVGA GTX 670. In Skyrim, with the high res texture pack from steam, I get 60+ fps with max everything. I have a two 1080p monitor setup (one running Skyrim, one running HW monitor, chrome, etc).

    Also, temps never above 60 C with a max 50% fan. The 670 FTW would be even better.
    November 20, 2012 2:09:50 PM

    rocktober said:
    I have a reference EVGA GTX 670. In Skyrim, with the high res texture pack from steam, I get 60+ fps with max everything. I have a two 1080p monitor setup (one running Skyrim, one running HW monitor, chrome, etc).

    Also, temps never above 60 C with a max 50% fan. The 670 FTW would be even better.


    Is that the official high textures dlc from Bethesda, or are you using a 4gb card? Because both the texture pack combiner and/or S.T.E.P (Skyrim Total Enhancement Project) have A LOT of mods that I'd like to use.

    Thanks,
    a b U Graphics card
    November 20, 2012 2:15:38 PM

    A quotre from my last post

    Now imagine you are the sort of person who wants ultra-HD 4096 textures everywhere then it can easily get up to 3Gb of VRAM.

    Than get the 4GB version.

    If u wont do that get the FTW version
    November 20, 2012 3:42:05 PM

    prototype18 said:
    Ok this is for you :D  Extend the budget and

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    BOOM


    That card looks noice, and it's a bit cheaper than the Asus.......... BUT, the Asus direct CU II non top is still cooler and quieter. BOOM.

    So please tell me the Evga's a hell of a lot faster :D 
    a b U Graphics card
    November 20, 2012 3:48:48 PM

    Yes it is :D  it has a 680 pcb and cooler. It is quieter / less heat and with a easy bios tweak there is a nice 680 :D 
    a b U Graphics card
    November 20, 2012 4:10:27 PM

    FFs its cooler than the 680 -.-

    And i wsnt saying its quiter/less heat than the asus one. But for the performance increase its better deal than asus.

    Personally if i had the money i would get it instantly. Plus i found you the 4gb FTW :D 
    a b U Graphics card
    November 20, 2012 5:06:31 PM

    Prototype, just because its a 680 cooler, doesn't mean its going to cool as good as non reference. It ass would get beaten to the ground by any non reference cooler, its just it beats standard reference coolers.

    I honestly would go with the Asus either way, and overclock that.
    November 20, 2012 5:54:38 PM

    JJ1217 said:
    Prototype, just because its a 680 cooler, doesn't mean its going to cool as good as non reference. It ass would get beaten to the ground by any non reference cooler, its just it beats standard reference coolers.

    I honestly would go with the Asus either way, and overclock that.


    Thanks JJ,

    Is it true performance takes a dive on these cards once they reach 80C in temps??
    a b U Graphics card
    November 20, 2012 9:11:31 PM

    It is cooler than the 670 non ftw version.

    I said the FTW version is the best performing GTX 670 out there. No card can beat it.

    And

    http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt...

    Max Gpu Temp 97C . So 80 is high but not 'lethal'.

    Still i stay with the Gtx FTW.

    I dont know what to do anymore . I linked u so much reviews and u still have the same response /answer's.

    a b U Graphics card
    November 21, 2012 2:56:22 AM

    prototype18 said:
    It is cooler than the 670 non ftw version.

    I said the FTW version is the best performing GTX 670 out there. No card can beat it.

    And

    http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt...

    Max Gpu Temp 97C . So 80 is high but not 'lethal'.

    Still i stay with the Gtx FTW.

    I dont know what to do anymore . I linked u so much reviews and u still have the same response /answer's.


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... This has pretty much the same clocks, and a much better cooler.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    This gets dangerously close, you could easily add twenty mhz to the core without any damage whatsoever.
    a b U Graphics card
    November 21, 2012 7:09:02 AM

    Hmm, to test out Video ram usage, I tried out Skyrim with 2k Textures, the Enhanced Flora Mod, and one of Boris' ENB. I was maxing out at around 1.3 GB of Vram usage. If you use alot more mods, you might reach the limit, but at the current moment for me anyways, I'm going fine.
    a b U Graphics card
    November 21, 2012 7:12:03 AM

    This is without AA by the way, I'm talking about playable rates. The 670 would probably perform alot better (I was at stock 7850 clocks as well).
    !