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January 1, 2013 6:34:36 AM

I am new to pc building and this is the first build I will ever attempt. I have been browsing these forums for awhile and have come across multiple great builds suggested by users. I am planning to build a computer with a budget of about $850, but anything to lower costs would be greatly appreciated. I do not plan on overclocking, I only want the computer to be able to handle the latest and greatest games at medium - high settings. I am wondering specifically if I could get by with a lower motherboard or CPU, and if I need to upgrade the power supply to ensure the safety of my system. I am not worried about upgrading my hard drive now because from what I have gathered that should be relatively easy if I should ever need to.

The build I was planning: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vgQZ
January 1, 2013 7:00:23 AM

maxftw997 said:
I am new to pc building and this is the first build I will ever attempt. I have been browsing these forums for awhile and have come across multiple great builds suggested by users. I am planning to build a computer with a budget of about $850, but anything to lower costs would be greatly appreciated. I do not plan on overclocking, I only want the computer to be able to handle the latest and greatest games at medium - high settings. I am wondering specifically if I could get by with a lower motherboard or CPU, and if I need to upgrade the power supply to ensure the safety of my system. I am not worried about upgrading my hard drive now because from what I have gathered that should be relatively easy if I should ever need to.

The build I was planning: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vgQZ



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($172.08 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($20.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $843.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-01 04:00 EST-0500)




=)

Enjoy!


Also if you know any college students you can get the win7 for free, and get a better video card and processor.
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January 1, 2013 7:07:21 AM

Thank you for this build, is the processor chosen the best one for my needs though? I was wondering if there might be an alternative that would give either similar or enhanced gaming performance.

Also minor compatibility issues but those should be easy enough to overcome
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January 1, 2013 7:14:56 AM

Do you live near a microcenter by any chance? if so you could get a i5 3570k for really cheap and it would be well worth the upgrade.
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January 1, 2013 8:13:48 AM

I actually live about 5 minutes from the almighty microcenter.
=)
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January 1, 2013 8:30:40 AM

maxftw997 said:
I actually live about 5 minutes from the almighty microcenter.
=)



Then get a 3570k + ASRock Z77 Pro3 1155 ATX Intel Motherboard for the same price as the 2 inferior parts on my list!


Man what a deal! XD
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January 1, 2013 8:45:14 AM

Newly updated to include the Microcenter deal. You have to subtract $50 from the total because I would buy the CPU at Microcenter.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vhjR
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January 1, 2013 10:03:45 AM

maxftw997 said:
Newly updated to include the Microcenter deal. You have to subtract $50 from the total because I would buy the CPU at Microcenter.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vhjR


H77 wont support OC'ing..
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January 1, 2013 10:04:09 AM

maxftw997 said:
Newly updated to include the Microcenter deal. You have to subtract $50 from the total because I would buy the CPU at Microcenter.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vhjR



You are going to regret those choices.

That power supply is crap, that monitor is a LOT weaker then the asus...


Get the same build I suggested, only buy the 3570k + ASRock Z77 Pro3 combo deal at the microcenter.

Best $843.56 you'll ever spend.
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January 1, 2013 10:06:03 AM

maxalge said:
You are going to regret those choices.

That power supply is crap, that monitor is a LOT weaker then the asus...


Get the same build I suggested, only buy the 3570k + ASRock Z77 Pro3 combo deal at the microcenter.

Best $843.56 you'll ever spend.


He could also get a 7770 to save on some money?
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January 1, 2013 10:11:31 AM

Alternate AMD Buy since haswell is coming out anyway....

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vhN8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vhN8/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vhN8/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.12 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $867.01
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-01 07:11 EST-0500)
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January 1, 2013 10:18:18 AM

camohanna said:
Alternate AMD Buy since haswell is coming out anyway....

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vhN8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vhN8/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vhN8/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.12 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $867.01
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-01 07:11 EST-0500)



Good catch on the 7870, same price as the 7850, after rebate though... Puts him over $30 on his budget...

The 6300 is a LOT worse for gaming... Why are you willing to spend more for less???


The microcenter 3570k combo plus that 7870 will have him playing like a pimp...
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January 1, 2013 10:21:14 AM

get a 3570k if you live by microcenter!!!! they sell intel processors for ridiculous prices. I was just in there talking to them about them the other day and their profit margins on them. The employee was pretty much just like "yeah I'm pretty sure we make either next to nothing off the processors or we lose money on them". This isn't the first time I've heard this from one of their employees either.
But yeah going to microcenter and spending like $30 more dollars on the 3570k will give you significant upgrade and give you the ability to overclock your cpu as well.
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January 1, 2013 10:24:23 AM

Maxalge did you say you could get win7 for free if you were in college?
cuz ummmmmmm I attend Mizzou :D 
A friend of mine there whom i helped build a rig dropped like $200 on 7 home premium from the bookstore there, almost smacked him when i figured out that he paid that.
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January 1, 2013 10:27:40 AM

Im from New Zealand (no microcentres here) and if you can get that from this microcentre, get it. I was just adding another possibility :D 
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January 1, 2013 10:29:00 AM

That 7870 is your best bet too, very fast. Couple it with an i5 3570k and you have a beast gaming rig right there.
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January 1, 2013 10:30:46 AM

trumpeter1994 said:
Maxalge did you say you could get win7 for free if you were in college?
cuz ummmmmmm I attend Mizzou :D 
A friend of mine there whom i helped build a rig dropped like $200 on 7 home premium from the bookstore there, almost smacked him when i figured out that he paid that.



Yeah

XD
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January 1, 2013 10:35:15 AM

maxalge said:
Yeah

XD

HOW!?!?!?!?!?
don't tell me it's through dreamspark or whatever cuz i've looked into that(I did actually get my Lumia 710 unlocked for free through that though which was nice).
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January 1, 2013 10:46:11 AM

trumpeter1994 said:
HOW!?!?!?!?!?
don't tell me it's through dreamspark or whatever cuz i've looked into that(I did actually get my Lumia 710 unlocked for free through that though which was nice).



Crap lol i went back to look at the website, seems the offer ended and now they only offering win8 pro for $39.99...


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/downloads


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January 1, 2013 10:52:20 AM

Eww, win 8 :( 
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January 1, 2013 11:25:04 AM

well i'm typing off my Lenovo y580 so I should be able to get like Win8 for $15 anyway, whats the site though for future reference :D 
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January 1, 2013 4:53:05 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vjQO

This is my newest update for the build. Please don't sacrifice anything for a better monitor because I can easily upgrade the monitor in the future if it becomes a problem for me.
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January 1, 2013 7:57:19 PM

maxftw997 said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vjQO

This is my newest update for the build. Please don't sacrifice anything for a better monitor because I can easily upgrade the monitor in the future if it becomes a problem for me.



The xfx 550w power supply is made by probably the best maker seasonic, and is more than plenty for your system.

Save the $20, and get the asus monitor.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.63 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax ATX-249B (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $668.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-01 16:52 EST-0500)



At microcenter the 3570k + ASRock Z77 Pro3 = $224.98


Total: $893.51


Cheaper and way better motherboard and monitor. =)
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January 1, 2013 8:02:29 PM

maxalge said:
The xfx 550w power supply is made by probably the best maker seasonic, and is more than plenty for your system.

Save the $20, and get the asus monitor.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.63 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax ATX-249B (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($134.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $668.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-01 16:52 EST-0500)



At microcenter the 3570k + ASRock Z77 Pro3 = $224.98


Total: $893.51


Cheaper and way better motherboard and monitor. =)


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