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January 1, 2013 8:30:08 AM

I am considering purchasing the following laptop. I would like a top of the line gaming experience. Is this a good deal on this system, price with discount is $1,443?

Tundra P1-701M Gaming Laptop
1 x Case ( Tundra P1-701M 17.3" Full HD 1920x1080 LED-Backlit Display Laptop w/HDMI Port, DisplayPort, USB 3.0, Programmable Illuminated Keyboard, Fingerprint Reader, Li-Ion Battery, Universal AC Power Adapter - Original Metallic Black - 4947 )
1 x Processor ( Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Mobile Processor (4x 2.4GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - 5491 )
1 x Memory ( 8GB [8GB x 1] 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM [Laptop Memory] - G.SKILL - 5277 )
1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 7970M 2GB GDDR5 Video [P1-701M] - 5226 )
1 x Free Stuff ( [FREE] - Travel Power Adaptor - Exchage Exclusive - FREE with ALL Laptop - 5294
1 x Free Stuff ( [FREE Game Download] - DiRT Showdown - Free with purchase of AMD Processor / Radeon video card - 5111 )
1 x Free Stuff ( [FREE Game Download] - Far Cry3 + 20% OFF code for Medal of Honor Warfighter - Free with purchase of AMD Radeon HD 7770 or above - 5608 )
1 x Free Stuff ( [FREE Game Download] - Sleeping Dogs - Free with purchase of AMD Radeon HD 7870 or above - 5318 )
1 x Free Stuff ( [FREE Game Download] - Sleeping Dogs + Hitman: Absolution + FarCry3 + 20% OFF code for Medal of Honor Warfighter - Free with purchase of AMD Radeon HD 7900 series video card - 5514 )
1 x Intel Smart Response Technology ( None - 0 )
1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 750 GB 7200rpm Serial-ATA Super Slim Laptop Hard Drive - 4202 )
1 x Data Hard Drive ( None - 0 )
1 x Optical Drive ( 8x Dual Format DVD±R/±RW + 16x CD-R/RW Combo Drive [P1-701M] - 4951 )
1 x Flash Media Reader / Writer ( Built-in 9-in-1 Media Card Reader/Writer [Laptop] - 3611 )
1 x Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard - 284 )
1 x Network Card ( Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps LAN [Laptop] - 679 )
1 x Fax Modem ( Built-in 56K V.92 Fax Modem [Laptop] - 632 )
1 x Internal Wireless Network Adapter ( 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi + Bluetooth Combo - 3973 )
1 x Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit - 3536 )
1 x USB Ports ( Built-in 1x USB 2.0 + 2x USB 3.0 + 1x USB 3.0 / eSATA Combo Ports [Laptop] - 4940
1 x Carrying Case ( None - 0 )
1 x Video Camera ( Built-in 2.0 Mega Pixels Digital Web Video Camera - 1842 )
1 x Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard One(1) Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support - 4600 )
1 x Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 15 Business Days - 5622 )
Qualified Coupon
5% Off on Systems over $999 for Tundra P1-701M Gaming Laptop -75.95
Total Savings: -75.95
Coupon Code (Optional): Estimated Total: USD $1,443.05
January 1, 2013 9:08:46 AM

I am not an expert on laptops but that looks really nice. Your CPU/GPU combo are about as good as it gets for a laptop and the extras included add to the package. Also, considering that this is prebuilt with warranty makes this even better. An SSD will improve performance but may not fit in the space/cost requirements. I hope this helps and Happy New Year.
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January 1, 2013 11:32:50 AM

-if downgrading to a i5 saves more than 100 dollars, do it. put that money saved for a SSD

if you must go with a gaming laptop, its a pretty ok deal. just remember on a desktop like that, i can max out all my games
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January 1, 2013 12:06:48 PM

I woudn't drop to an i5.

Laptop i5s are dual core, 4 thread, not 4 core like desktop i5s
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January 1, 2013 12:25:36 PM

TheBigTroll said:
-if downgrading to a i5 saves more than 100 dollars, do it. put that money saved for a SSD

if you must go with a gaming laptop, its a pretty ok deal. just remember on a desktop like that, i can max out all my games


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a b 4 Gaming
January 1, 2013 12:45:55 PM

looks like a great deal and it kind looking similar to something i was looking for where are u getting it from?
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January 1, 2013 4:11:01 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
I woudn't drop to an i5.

Laptop i5s are dual core, 4 thread, not 4 core like desktop i5s


i know that of course, but if it means getting a SSD, im doing it. you see more of a difference from going to SSDs than going from 2 core to 4 core (unless you are doing work of course)
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January 1, 2013 5:41:47 PM

I will be traveling a lot the next year so a desktop is not practical right now. There is no i5 option, this is the lowest processor option. Believe it or not I think I might have found a better deal from CyberPower, check this one out please. It is a 15.6 inch so may be better for me as far as portability. Also it has an SSD, I can configure with 750gb 7200 rpm traditional drive for 17 dollars less. Thanks a lot for the help.

*Price with discount is $1,357.
ADAPTER: Full Range AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, 180W AC Adapter, DC output 19V, 9.47A
BAGS: Free Deluxe Carrying Bag for 15.6 Inch Notebook
BATTERY: 8 Cell Smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 76.96Wh
BLUETOOTH: Built-in Bluetooth
CD: 8X DVD±R/RW/4X + DL Super-Multi Drive (NB-368-DVDRW)
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Mobile Processor 2.40 GHz 6M Smart Cache, Max Turbo Freq. 3.40 GHz
FLASHMEDIA: Built-In 9in1 Media Reader
HDD: 250 GB SAMSUNG 840 Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 250MB/s Write [+17]
HDMI: Built-in HDMI Port
INVERTER: None
KEYBOARD: Built-in Keyboard
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3-1600 SODIMM Memory [+0] (Corsair Vengeance Gaming)
MONITOR: None
MOTHERBOARD: Mobile Intel HM77 Express Chipset Mainboard
MOUSE: BUILT-IN TOUCHPAD
NETWORK: Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Card
NOTEBOOK: Clevo P150EM Gaming Notebook 15.6" Full HD 1920x1080 Display w/ Built-in 2.0 MP Webcam, Fingerprint Sensor, HDMI Port, Li-Ion Battery, & Universal AC Adapter
NOTEBOOK_COVER: Xplorer X6 Gaming Notebook Cover - Original Black
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+0] (64-bit Edition)
SECURITY: Built-in Biometric Fingerprint Sensor
SERVICE: STANDARD 1-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY AND LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOFT1: Free Microsoft® Office® 2010 STARTER EDITION (Reduced-Functionality versions of Word and Excel that include advertising) [+0]
SOUND: Built-in 3D Premium Surround Sound
SPEAKERS: Built-in Stereo Speakers System
TABLET: None
TVRC: None
USB: Built-in 1x USB2.0 Ports + 3x USB3.0 Ports
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7970M 2GB GDDR5 PCIe Video (NB-368-104) [-23]
VIDEOCAMERA1: Built-in 2.0 Mega Pixel Webcam
WNC: Wireless 802.11 b/g/n WiFi Card
WTV: None
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January 1, 2013 5:56:47 PM

do not use the 840 SSD. its rather low end. try a 830
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January 1, 2013 6:23:09 PM

That article is talking about the 6990M but either way I understand it is not the same as the desktop card. It is however currently the fastest laptop GPU that AMD makes.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 1, 2013 6:27:46 PM

the 7970m is basically a downclocked 7870. still should perform pretty good.
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January 1, 2013 6:27:57 PM

sadlerjeffrey said:
That article is talking about the 6990M but either way I understand it is not the same as the desktop card. It is however currently the fastest laptop GPU that AMD makes.


Yeah the article is outdated but it does get you to understand that manufacturers will lie about their products that way. It's very dishonest, and I use this to point out that fact.
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January 1, 2013 7:28:26 PM

Thanks for the replies. So does anyone know a better set up for less than the second laptop I posted. Or is this pretty much the best price I can find. I'm looking for the cheapest laptop possible that has a GTX 680m or AMD 7970m and components that will not bottleneck the GPU. I think this laptop at $1,357 gives me just that but I would like to make sure, still a big investment for me.
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January 1, 2013 7:50:26 PM

TheBigTroll said:
do not use the 840 SSD. its rather low end. try a 830


common misconception. the 840 has a design more suited to laptops than the 830. and while write speed seems to be lower, how often are you really going to write large enough files to make a difference?
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January 1, 2013 8:12:27 PM

Yeah I am leaning towards the CyberPower because it is 15". They seem pretty reputable and they also work with my military exchange which means free shipping and NO TAX, which saves a whole lot more on top.

A few questions though.
- I can upgrade to windows 8 for free but i'm not sure about that, I have seen it and I really prefer windows 7, what do you all think?
- This is some pretty powerful hardware, how is the cooling/ventilation on the Clevo P150EM (Sager9150)?
- As far as ram I can get 1x8gb or 2x4gb for same price, same speed and brand. Any difference?
- Every benchmark and review site has the AMD 7970m card as the fastest or second fastest (second to Nvidia 680M) GPU made for laptops, however the Nvidia 670MX (3gb) and 675M (4gb) are actually a little more for these laptops. Why is this and should I still go with the 7970m (680m is significantly more)?
- Someone has mentioned that this particular SSD is a low end model and 250gb is a little low seeing as it is my only drive, with that said I do not usually use a ton of space and performance is most important. From what I have heard an SSD helps load times etc. but does not effect fps, I have a 7200rpm HDD now and load times are not bad. Should I go with a 750gb 7200rpm traditional hard drive just to be safe (17$ cheaper also)?

I know that is a lot of questions, thanks a lot for the help. I will be living off this thing for about 9 months so I want to make sure it is good.
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January 1, 2013 8:51:57 PM

win 8 is probly as good as win 7, just a new interface.

I'd go with 2x4, as dual channel = about 5% improvement in speed.

you should be fine with the 7970M, if you are worried about heat, get a decent lap cooler.

f you are worried about space. go with the 750 GB drive. alternately, if the system will take 2 drives, get an ssd and a hdd. (128ssd/500hdd would be plenty)

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January 1, 2013 9:29:40 PM

lxgoldsmith said:
common misconception. the 840 has a design more suited to laptops than the 830. and while write speed seems to be lower, how often are you really going to write large enough files to make a difference?


the 1000 write cycles is another thing to think about. and if its the same price, why not?
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January 1, 2013 11:40:45 PM

I'm almost decided on most of the components, which wireless card should I go with? First one is included in price.

Wireless 802.11 b/g/n WiFi Card
Intel® Centrino™ Advanced-N 6235 Wireless 802.11 a/g/n 300Mbps Dual-Band Wi-Fi + Bluetooth Combo [Intel WiDi Ready] [+9]
Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300 a/b/g/n Wireless Adapter [Intel WiDi Ready] [+26]
Killer Wireless-N 1202 802.11 n + Bluetooth [+20]
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January 2, 2013 12:59:52 AM

depends what you have to connect to. the base card will do 11 Mb/s (b), 54 Mb/s (g), or 150 Mb/s (n). If you have a 300 Mb/s dual channel N router, then the $9 card might be worth it. None of the others.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 2, 2013 1:08:31 AM

get the standard. the odds are that the internet that will be provided elsewhere will not be dual band
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January 2, 2013 1:22:19 AM

TheBigTroll said:
get the standard. the odds are that the internet that will be provided elsewhere will not be dual band


+1, the norm is 2.4Ghz. while 5Ghz is faster, it is much more often associated with console gaming and HD streaming over wireless, and both should be replaced through powerline networking on the 500Mbps standard.
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January 2, 2013 4:24:05 AM

I believe I have decided on a final build. Believe it or not I found another $100.00 off coupon bringing the price down to $1,266 (free shipping and NO tax). I have spent days looking at tons of websites configuring every option and I believe this is the cheapest I can possibly find a gaming laptop of this caliber. Can anyone offer any possible better deal on a high end gaming laptop, if you can please let me know? I welcome comments on any individual component or the system performance/price as a whole. Thanks a lot.

- CyberPowerPC Frigate T6-9600 (Clevo P150EM) -

ADAPTER: Full Range AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, 180W AC Adapter, DC output 19V, 9.47A
BAGS: Free Deluxe Carrying Bag for 15.6 Inch Notebook
BATTERY: 8 Cell Smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 76.96Wh
BLUETOOTH: Built-in Bluetooth
CD: 8X DVD±R/RW/4X + DL Super-Multi Drive (NB-368-DVDRW)
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Mobile Processor 2.40 GHz 6M Smart Cache, Max Turbo Freq. 3.40 GHz
FLASHMEDIA: Built-In 9in1 Media Reader
HDD: 250 GB SAMSUNG 840 Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 250MB/s Write
HDMI: Built-in HDMI Port
INVERTER: None
KEYBOARD: Built-in Keyboard
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3-1600 SODIMM Memory [+0] (Corsair Vengeance Gaming)
MONITOR: None
MOTHERBOARD: Mobile Intel HM77 Express Chipset Mainboard
MOUSE: BUILT-IN TOUCHPAD
NETWORK: Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Card
NOTEBOOK: Clevo P150EM Gaming Notebook 15.6" Full HD 1920x1080 Display w/ Built-in 2.0 MP Webcam, Fingerprint Sensor, HDMI Port, Li-Ion Battery, & Universal AC Adapter
NOTEBOOK_COVER: Xplorer X6 Gaming Notebook Cover - Original Black
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+0] (64-bit Edition)
SECURITY: Built-in Biometric Fingerprint Sensor
SERVICE: STANDARD 1-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY AND LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOFT1: Free Microsoft® Office® 2010 STARTER EDITION (Reduced-Functionality versions of Word and Excel that include advertising) [+0]
SOUND: Built-in 3D Premium Surround Sound
SPEAKERS: Built-in Stereo Speakers System
TVRC: None
USB: Built-in 1x USB2.0 Ports + 3x USB3.0 Ports
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7970M 2GB GDDR5 PCIe Video (NB-368-104) [-23]
VIDEOCAMERA1: Built-in 2.0 Mega Pixel Webcam
WNC: Intel® Centrino™ Advanced-N 6235 Wireless 802.11 a/g/n 300Mbps Dual-Band Wi-Fi + Bluetooth Combo [Intel WiDi Ready] [+9]
WTV: None
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January 2, 2013 11:16:05 AM

make sure you get a matte screen. i love glossy, but then i have to close down all the windows
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January 12, 2013 12:39:51 AM

Thanks a lot guys, I ended up purchasing this laptop.
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January 12, 2013 12:41:42 AM

Best answer selected by sadlerjeffrey.
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