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Anonymous
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December 25, 2004 11:00:58 PM

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My own searches have proven to be of little help in understanding the
implementation of this technology (available since Win98).

Any information that you could share on Display Driver Management Layer
(DDML) usage would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Hubbard
Anonymous
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December 28, 2004 1:59:31 AM

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Hi,

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/ddk/default.mspx

Ken
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"Jim Hubbard" <reply@groups.please> wrote in message
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My own searches have proven to be of little help in understanding the
implementation of this technology (available since Win98).

Any information that you could share on Display Driver Management Layer
(DDML) usage would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Hubbard
Anonymous
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December 28, 2004 5:03:21 AM

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Ken,



Thanks, but I have the 2003 DDK.

I found the following in the 2003 DDK.....
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Mirror
[This is preliminary documentation and subject to change.]

SUMMARY

This sample demonstrates how to use a driver to perform video mirroring.
When video mirroring is active, each time the system draws to the primary
video device at a location inside the mirrored area, a copy of the draw
operation is executed on the mirrored video device in real time. With this
mirroring scheme, you can simultaneously draw the same output to several
video devices. Since the driver allocates memory dynamically for targets,
the number of displays that your system can support depends on how much free
memory you have at mirror-time.

This sample is designed to provide information on a standard, generic method
of mirroring. This eliminates the need for special case-by-case solutions
which were used before this support was added to the system. The sample runs
only on the Microsoft® Windows® 2000 platform. It features commented source
code that documents in detail how the code works, to make it easy to modify
and extend. Please note that this is the first version of the video mirror
sample. Additional functionality may be added to the sample in future
releases.

The sample is comprised of three pieces:

a.. The display driver, in \Ntddk\Src\Video\Displays\Mirror\Dll. b.. The
video miniport driver, in \Ntddk\Src\Video\Miniport\Mirror. The miniport
driver included here is a skeleton. It simply returns success status for all
miniport calls made by the system as there is no real hardware controlled by
the mirror sample.


c.. An application that is a sample user-mode service, in
\Ntddk\Src\Video\Displays\Mirror\App.



For additional information about this sample and about mirror drivers in

general, please see \Ntddk\Src\Video\Displays\Mirror\App\Readme.txt, and the

Mirror Drivers topic in the Graphics Design Guide.

BUILDING THE SAMPLE
Install the driver by using the included .ini file, then run the sample
application. The application will attach the driver to the desktop, and
mirroring will be active. At present, the sample application is a
command-line Win32 program.

Notes: The sample is x86 compatible. It also compiles correctly in the
64-bit environment. All aspects of the kernel-mode execution environment
apply to the display and video miniport driver portions of this sample.

----------------------------------------------------------------------It is
c/c++....languages I do not speak. And, it seems that writing a generic
driver using this method is slightly over my head.

I can't seem to shake the thought that there should be something in the GDI
APIs that would allow you to hook the GDI stream without all of this. After
all, most (if not all) drawing to the screen is done through GDI. That's
what GDI is for....to abstract the hardware layer from the software layer
and offer a generic approach to writing to the hardware (screens in this
case - but may also be printers, etc.).

However, this method may be the most efficient - and efficiency is exactly
what I need for speed when replicating a desktop across the internet.

This subject seems almost taboo. I cannot find anyone with experience in
this area that is willing to speak on it or be hired to write some code
based on DDML.

It is like a "hidden technology" that Microsoft doesn't really want to talk
about.

I think it is the same thing used for Remote Desktop - hence the speed of
RDP.

I have looked from Georgia to California to India to the Ukraine......
NOBODY has the knowledge that I need (at least that will talk about it or
code for $$).

Thanks for the effort though....

Jim Hubbard





"Ken Tucker [MVP]" <vb2ae@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/ddk/default.mspx
>
> Ken
> -----------------------
> "Jim Hubbard" <reply@groups.please> wrote in message
> news:_NudnaAkJ8XEkFPcRVn-tg@giganews.com...
> My own searches have proven to be of little help in understanding the
> implementation of this technology (available since Win98).
>
> Any information that you could share on Display Driver Management Layer
> (DDML) usage would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jim Hubbard
>
>
>
Anonymous
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December 29, 2004 9:17:33 AM

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Hi Jim,
I do not know DDML but i can expose some helping ideas that might help
you.

{{ try to trace the RemoteDesktop API calls to know what it is doing behind
the scene }}

"Jim Hubbard" <reply@groups.please> wrote in message
news:_NudnaAkJ8XEkFPcRVn-tg@giganews.com...
> My own searches have proven to be of little help in understanding the
> implementation of this technology (available since Win98).
>
> Any information that you could share on Display Driver Management Layer
> (DDML) usage would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jim Hubbard
>
!