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November 17, 2012 9:10:00 PM

I upgraded my video card from ati 4890 to nvidia gtx 660. I have High frame rate on every game, but every game stutters. Prior to installing new card I uninstalled ati 4890 with your uninstaller, I then ran c cleaner. Any ideas.

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a c 272 U Graphics card
November 17, 2012 9:17:24 PM

Replace your P4 CPU with a better more up to date one.
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November 17, 2012 9:19:41 PM

Sounds like a driver issue - you are getting "High frame rates on every game"?

What are your PC specs and gaming res?

Try completely removing the 660 drivers then installing a new download of the latest ones from nvidia.
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November 17, 2012 9:29:25 PM

Also, post your other specs so we may help you out better.
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a b U Graphics card
November 17, 2012 9:30:22 PM

What are the rest of your system specs and what resolution are you running?
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November 17, 2012 9:34:21 PM

cpu - Phenom II x4 955 (3.2), Mobo - Gigaabyte GA-MA770T-UD3p, nvidia GTX660 8 gig ddr3 ram, PSU - Antec Earthwatts 750, windows 7 64. 24" monitor at 1920x1200.

Nvidia driver version 306.97
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November 18, 2012 7:25:29 PM

Im about to lose my mind. I returned the 660 for the 660ti, still same thing. high fps but constant stuttering. It doesnt matter if I turn setting down to low and turn every graphic option to off, including vsync. Still constant stutter. Any ideas.
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a c 291 U Graphics card
November 18, 2012 7:30:13 PM

Did you try reinstalling windows? AMD is known to leave remnants of drivers that plague nvidia graphics cards performance.
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November 18, 2012 7:44:27 PM

no, I just did last week before the new card, I would hate to go through that all over again, If thats what it comes down to I will. I used your uninstaller to remove amd, then driver cleaner, then ccleaner.
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a c 272 U Graphics card
November 18, 2012 8:05:18 PM

rudy2112 said:
no, I just did last week before the new card, I would hate to go through that all over again, If thats what it comes down to I will. I used your uninstaller to remove amd, then driver cleaner, then ccleaner.

What uninstaller? I/we don't have one so what are you talking about? :heink: 
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a c 291 U Graphics card
November 18, 2012 8:15:36 PM

Oh god looks like crapware :( .
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November 18, 2012 8:34:08 PM

whats the best way to uninstall a progam
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a c 272 U Graphics card
November 18, 2012 9:23:11 PM

rudy2112 said:
whats the best way to uninstall a progam

Use the uninstaller the program provides?
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December 14, 2012 2:37:18 PM

If you have a powerful gaming rig just like me (powerful and healthy parts CPU, MOBO, GPU, RAM, PSU, SPU, HDD), and you still have micro-stuttering despite having high fps, I suggest you to check if you are experiencing input lag by USB keyboard/mouse.
Go to device manager and disable HID for mouse, keyboard and for everything else having HID that you see there, you should still be able to use your keyboard and mouse but, all the special keys in your keyboard and mouse will be disabled like volume control, quick access to calculator, quick access to web browser, etc.
Next step is to make sure you only have one language installed in your keyboard, you probably have english as default but, you might also have russian or something else, make sure its only one.
Try your games and see if they stutter again.

I was having a very weird and random micro-stuttering issue in almost every game, I went crazy trying to figure out what would case those annoying micro-stutters till I figured out it was just the input lag.
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January 5, 2013 11:58:56 AM

So I returned the 660ti, bought a hd 7950 wiped drive my hard drive, re installed windows, I have latest drivers, and still stutters. All my games run smooth with 4890, but half the frame rate. I disabled hid devices, and that did not help. Anyone have any other ideas. Thanks,
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a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2013 12:45:42 PM

rudy2112 said:
So I returned the 660ti, bought a hd 7950 wiped drive my hard drive, re installed windows, I have latest drivers, and still stutters. All my games run smooth with 4890, but half the frame rate. I disabled hid devices, and that did not help. Anyone have any other ideas. Thanks,



1. Dont honestly know why you flipped around and replaced so many mid-top end cards the 660 was worth it..The 660ti was over priced due to sripped of memory bandwidth and rops but you should try to uninstall using fusion i believe it was drive sweeper before they changed it and reinstall drivers and see how that works.
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January 5, 2013 1:44:47 PM

Sunius said:
Did you try reinstalling windows? AMD is known to leave remnants of drivers that plague nvidia graphics cards performance.


Can you give any more details on this? I'm planning a switch from Radeon to GeForce and wasn't planning to bother with a full re-install...
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a c 272 U Graphics card
January 5, 2013 1:58:01 PM

sam_p_lay said:
Can you give any more details on this? I'm planning a switch from Radeon to GeForce and wasn't planning to bother with a full re-install...

In theory deleting any and all ati.dll files from the system32 folder prior to removal/rebooting should prevent the need for that.
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a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2013 3:12:55 PM

In theory, there shouldn't be any ati.dll files after uninstall... sounds a bit dodgy to me. That would be a major scandal wouldn't it if AMD were sabotaging nVidia performance? If that's what's happening though, I'll definitely be very careful to remove all files the uninstaller misses or just fresh install Windows. Guess it's a good thing to do from time to time anyway.
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a c 272 U Graphics card
January 5, 2013 3:23:13 PM

sam_p_lay said:
In theory, there shouldn't be any ati.dll files after uninstall... sounds a bit dodgy to me. That would be a major scandal wouldn't it if AMD were sabotaging nVidia performance? If that's what's happening though, I'll definitely be very careful to remove all files the uninstaller misses or just fresh install Windows. Guess it's a good thing to do from time to time anyway.

Actually some if not all of those files are there by default, how else do you think Windows knows what card is in the PC when you install Windows for the first time? MS used to use their own default driver but Vista and W7 use an older driver from Ati and Nvidia as the default driver and so it makes sense that those files will be updated from time to time so by deleting them they should replaced by their older default originals.
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a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2013 3:28:20 PM

Cool, that makes sense. So after uninstalling Catalyst, Windows driver backup remains, causing some problems. Delete that backup and Windows replaces those backup files (via automatic updates?) but no more problems. Is that about right?
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a c 272 U Graphics card
January 5, 2013 3:34:41 PM

sam_p_lay said:
Cool, that makes sense. So after uninstalling Catalyst, Windows driver backup remains, causing some problems. Delete that backup and Windows replaces those backup files (via automatic updates?) but no more problems. Is that about right?

I assume they are backed up in a .cab file somewhere as I've had the files reappear upon rebooting and without network access being available. Does CCC still require a .NET update when it's installed?
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a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2013 5:02:08 PM

I don't think so... I fully uninstalled and re-installed when my 5970 died (to use 12.4 legacy for my old 4870) and no mention of it that I can remember. Probably already installed from ages ago.
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a c 272 U Graphics card
January 5, 2013 5:27:45 PM

sam_p_lay said:
I don't think so... I fully uninstalled and re-installed when my 5970 died (to use 12.4 legacy for my old 4870) and no mention of it that I can remember. Probably already installed from ages ago.

It's been a while since I had to install an Ati/AMD card so I could be completely wrong in thinking that it installs it at all.
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a b U Graphics card
January 5, 2013 6:10:29 PM

Well it's something I'll keep in mind anyway. Wouldn't want AMD drivers screwing up my performance after all!
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