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November 18, 2012 4:36:04 AM

I'm assembling my own gaming rig :) 

here goes the specs:

CPU : Intel Core i5 3470 3.1Ghz (3rd Generation)

Mobo : Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2P-B3

Case : Silverstone Raven RV-03

PSU : Axle Twister 500W 75% efficient

RAM : Corsair ValueSelect 4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3 stick

HDD : WD Caviar Blue 500GB 7200RPM SATA 6GBPS

So I checked for the GPU's from the same shop I'm buying these parts from and they had these GPU's that comes for my budget :)  :

Axle Geforce GTX 650 1GB DDR5

PowerColor Radeon HD 7750 1GB DDR5

PowerColor Radeon HD 7770 1GB DDR5


What is the best out of these 3? I want to play every game maxed out :) 

My res: 1366 x 768

Thank You :) 

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a c 164 U Graphics card
November 18, 2012 4:36:27 AM

You will need a bit more GPU power to max out everything but at that res you would get close. The HD7770 would be my suggestion.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

If you look at that chart the HD7770 is one tier higher than the GTX650. So its faster.
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November 18, 2012 4:40:35 AM

the 7770 is the better of the three.

and noticing you are "assembling" ie buying(?) because you may have a problem with a ivy i5 with a H61 motherboard if the bios isn't up to date to support that processor.

a B75 motherboard will not have that potential problem and are very inexpensive.
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November 18, 2012 4:43:56 AM

Thanks for the quick replies guys...

So I just contacted the shop, they told they will assemble the PC for free :D  (saves some of my time)

What if I buy a Intel Core i3 3220 3.3Ghz (3rd Generation sandy bridge) CPU and buy a Sapphire Radeon HD7850 2GB DDR5 OC instead?

Will it slow down my CPU power?
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November 18, 2012 5:00:21 AM

tough call. the 7850 is a substantially better GPU the i3 is a great gaming CPU but in a game that uses as many threads as it can get, like BF3 multiplayer, it will not perform as well as an i5. - actually BF3 MP is pretty much the only game that does that . . .

so generally i3/7850 > i5/7770
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November 18, 2012 5:48:08 AM

Thanks looniam :) 

IS Axle Geforce GTX 650 1GB DDR5 a bad card? It should be atleast almost the same as HD7770 right?

I wont play games in multiplayer mode much often, I just stick to the campaign mode.

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November 18, 2012 5:59:15 AM

the 650 is more of a 7750's performance, the 650ti is a bit better than the 7770.

edit: on a side note about an i3 with BF3 MP, a card such as the 7850 will be a better balance playing that. whereas a card like the 7870 will put more of a load and start to cause the i3 to bottleneck.
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November 18, 2012 6:05:39 AM

I decided to go with an Core i5 and a PowerColor Radeon HD 7770

Just wanted to balance both CPU and the GPU :) 

HD 7770 would be able to handle the upcoming games like assassins creed 3 and hitman absolution easily right? :) 

If I could increase my budget in the next few weeks I will definitely go for a HD 7850
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November 18, 2012 6:07:42 AM

I'm no AMD guy, but I have to agree on this the 7770 is superior to GTX 650. I would suggest you shoudl wait a Little and buy AMD 7850 or my favorite GTX 660.

Those two Cards are the "gamer's sweet spot".
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November 18, 2012 6:12:06 AM

lostgamer_03 said:
I'm no AMD guy, but I have to agree on this the 7770 is superior to GTX 650. I would suggest you shoudl wait a Little and buy AMD 7850 or my favorite GTX 660.

Those two Cards are the "gamer's sweet spot".


Haha ;)  thanks man...
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November 18, 2012 6:13:22 AM

I didn't see you wanted to be future proof. If you want to be that, then the two Cards I just mentioned will be sufficient at least for 1 to 2 years.

GTX 660 is on par with AMD 7870.

GTX 660 also has the newest Technologies such as FXAA, TXAA and boost. Which give great performance and a choice of lowering the performance used, without sacrificing the eye candy.

But it sounds like your budget won't let you do so, I hope you get happy with your ned build, mate. :) 
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November 18, 2012 6:23:10 AM

Yeah my budget limits me to some selected cards only, If I'll be able to increase my budget. I will definitely go with the GTX 660 if its same as the HD 7870

Axle Geforce GTX 660 2GB DDR5 will do the job right? :) 
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November 18, 2012 6:32:44 AM

I've not heard of that brand.

EVGA GTX 660 SC - Has lifetime warranty
MSI GTX 660 TWIN FROZR
GIGABYTE GTX 660

Those 3 Cards are safe bets. I can't say if Axle is good or bad because, I don't know of them.
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November 18, 2012 6:33:59 AM

Oh okay, The only card in our country is Axle Geforce GTX 660. :) 
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November 18, 2012 8:30:14 AM

Man, you got told in the second post that you should change the motherboard. It isn't compatible with Ivy Bridge CPUs (neither i5-3470 nor i3-3220).
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November 18, 2012 9:45:48 AM

As you said you are more into campaign than in Multi-player, so I recommend a i3 3220 with a good GPU like you said 7850 or GTX 660. i3 3220 is good for budget builds.

Buy a i3 3220 only if you like to play games. i3 is weak (NOT MUCH WEAK, but a little slower than i5) for you if you do Photoshop and other computer apps.
But don't underestimate i3, my current processor {Pentium D 820 (OC to 3.36 Ghz)} is able to handle every app nicely, so a i3 will even perform better.

i5 3470 is also a very good choice, I plan to buy a i5 3470 for my new rig with GTX 660 Ti.

According to your Resolution you'll not need a High End GPU like GTX 660. GTX 660 is made handle every game on Ultra 1920x1080 with good FPS.

Please tell me how much FPS is enough for you? For me 45 fps is enough in any game, even 35 fps is good at any game.

***MY SUGGESTION***

Choice is yours... I'm not able to suggest anything, but I'd say select something from down:

1) i5 3470 + 650 Ti/7770 (Select if you are a simple Gamer and a Software Geek) (Budget Combo)

2) i3 3220 + 660 (Select if you are a complete Gamer) (Single-player will be at its best, but Multi-player maybe a little slow due to less cores) (Budget Combo)

3) i5 3470 + 660 (Select if you are a Hardcore Gamer and a Software Geek) (SP + MP will be at their best) (Future Proof a little)
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November 18, 2012 10:20:16 AM

go with the i3 3220 and 7850,
the i3 performs 70-80% of an i5, i saw in an interview with a guy from intel.
if u wanna play games this is the best build.
If u wanna play games, going with an i5 to sacrifice a graphics card is.............stupid
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November 18, 2012 3:27:38 PM

Sumukh_Bhagat said:
As you said you are more into campaign than in Multi-player, so I recommend a i3 3220 with a good GPU like you said 7850 or GTX 660. i3 3220 is good for budget builds.

Buy a i3 3220 only if you like to play games. i3 is weak (NOT MUCH WEAK, but a little slower than i5) for you if you do Photoshop and other computer apps.
But don't underestimate i3, my current processor {Pentium D 820 (OC to 3.36 Ghz)} is able to handle every app nicely, so a i3 will even perform better.


sorry but from personal experience i have to disagree with that. i "upgraded" to an i5 from an i3-2120 and aside from a few more frame rates gaming, rendering video in adobe premiere and being able to heavily multitask; i often ask myself why i bothered to upgrade. so as far as photoshop and other applications, there is really no difference except as i said when heavily mulitasking.
Undervolting i3 2120 (the only "fun" there is)
(oh yeah, that "future proofing" thing :p  )
honestly there is no way you can compare an i3 to an old pentium D processor, the difference is night and day.
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November 19, 2012 2:15:20 AM

Thank you guys for helping me out :) 

I decided to go with the Core i3 - 3220 and HD 7850 as you guys suggested :) 
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November 19, 2012 2:17:24 AM

good luck i'll be making the same build next year!!!!!!
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November 19, 2012 2:29:33 AM

dheeraj9933 said:
good luck i'll be making the same build next year!!!!!!


Thanks man :) 

Good luck with your new build too :) 
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November 19, 2012 9:41:32 AM

Anonymous said:
sorry but from personal experience i have to disagree with that. i "upgraded" to an i5 from an i3-2120 and aside from a few more frame rates gaming, rendering video in adobe premiere and being able to heavily multitask; i often ask myself why i bothered to upgrade. so as far as photoshop and other applications, there is really no difference except as i said when heavily mulitasking.
Undervolting i3 2120 (the only "fun" there is)
(oh yeah, that "future proofing" thing :p  )
honestly there is no way you can compare an i3 to an old pentium D processor, the difference is night and day.



:non: 
I suggested him a i5 3470 because of this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3970x-sandy...
i5 3470 outperforms every CPU in its range.

And greetings for your new build.
Guess it'll look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeZWwyFZhNk
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November 19, 2012 9:51:44 AM

Novuake said:
I would not call less than one frame per second outperforming... LOL


I'm talking about i5 3470 vs i3 3220.

And the difference your saying is between i5 3570K and i5 3470, and i5 3570K is more costly than the i5 3470.
According to the price of i5 3470, its a very excellent CPU at its price.
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November 19, 2012 11:46:31 AM

Anonymous said:
ah, BF3 is a gpu bound game, you'd be better served using a game like skyrim/wow that puts a load on the cpu also to show your point.


BF3 also puts load on cpu when playing multi-player.

I'm not forcing him to buy a i3, I'm just suggesting him so that he gets the best out of his budget.
I'd rather save money and go for i5, if I would have been in his place.
Only because he want it to be in his budget I suggested him i3 with High end GPU, most of the games are GPU bound.
And which gamer doesn't play BF3, its one of the best game ever made.
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November 19, 2012 5:18:58 PM

Sumukh_Bhagat said:
BF3 also puts load on cpu when playing multi-player.

but the bench you linked was for single player mode.
get it?
Sumukh_Bhagat said:
And which gamer doesn't play BF3, its one of the best game ever made.

this gamer doesn't.
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November 19, 2012 10:46:56 PM

Anonymous said:
but the bench you linked was for single player mode.
get it?


Ya,I know. I couldn't found any multi-player benchmark.
But still a i5 3470 performs very nicely in its price range, and in most of the games its similar to the i5 3570k.
And there are many games that give more fun to play in campaign, like open worlds games (Sleeping Dogs, NFSMW12, GTA series)

Anonymous said:
this gamer doesn't.


I can't believe it :lol: 
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November 19, 2012 11:18:56 PM

You guys say that a core i3 - 3220 and a GTX 660 would not give me good results in a game? Will it bottleneck? :o  :( 
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November 20, 2012 3:09:46 AM

coolermaster_72 said:
You guys say that a core i3 - 3220 and a GTX 660 would not give me good results in a game? Will it bottleneck? :o  :( 

ONLY in games that are cpu bound,
like battlefied, skyrim, maybe the new GTAV.
but MOST of the games are not. and i3 3220 is definately not a bad cpu.
and GTX 660 is an awesome card. and i3 and 660 will not be a bottleneck like a p4 and 660.
it will give u only a few frames less, but nothing to stop u from enjoying gaming.
so just for a couple for frames(never less than 30) u dont need an i5 THAT bad.
i3 wont be a big bottleneck its and awesome cpu.
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November 20, 2012 3:14:27 AM

coolermaster_72 said:
You guys say that a core i3 - 3220 and a GTX 660 would not give me good results in a game? Will it bottleneck? :o  :( 


Of course not. It wouldn't bottleneck even GTX 680.
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November 20, 2012 3:26:08 AM

Okay then, thanks a lot you guys for helping me :) 

I'll be going with an i3 - 3320 and a GTX 660 thn :D 

Really excited to play the upcoming games with some eye-candy :D 
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November 20, 2012 3:53:53 AM

Good luck :) .
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November 20, 2012 10:34:35 AM

Guys I have a big problem :( 

I checked out some pics of GTX 660 and noticed it only support DVI cables

I'm using a Samsung SA300 LED which supports only D-sub :( 

To solve this issue should I buy a Monitor too? :o 
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November 20, 2012 10:48:23 AM

coolermaster_72 said:
Guys I have a big problem :( 

I checked out some pics of GTX 660 and noticed it only support DVI cables

I'm using a Samsung SA300 LED which supports only D-sub :( 

To solve this issue should I buy a Monitor too? :o 


Most new Graphics cards only have DVI ports. You should get an Adapter DVI to VGA, with the Graphics card that you buy. THat will do the job.
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November 20, 2012 10:56:34 AM

Novuake said:
Most new Graphics cards only have DVI ports. You should get an Adapter DVI to VGA, with the Graphics card that you buy. THat will do the job.


Yeah I contacted the shop and got to know about it! anyway im glad to hear it from you guys too! thanks alot! :)  :bounce: 

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November 20, 2012 10:59:43 AM

Sunius said:
This one?

http://dragonsgaming.wordpress.com/2012/04/06/samsung-2...

It looks like it has a DVI input in addition to VGA input.


I have a 19" monitor and also in the manual of it, it show two varieties one with D-sub and DVI support and one only with D-sub support (this is the one Im having)

I don't why there are two varieties like that :/ 

anyways, I wouldn't face any performance problems with a DVI to VGA cable right?

Thanks alot! :)  :bounce: 
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November 20, 2012 11:57:00 AM

coolermaster_72 said:
I have a 19" monitor and also in the manual of it, it show two varieties one with D-sub and DVI support and one only with D-sub support (this is the one Im having)

I don't why there are two varieties like that :/ 

anyways, I wouldn't face any performance problems with a DVI to VGA cable right?

Thanks alot! :)  :bounce: 

Not anything performance wise. But some image quality small things, yes. But you been using it anyway so you won't notice a dif.
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November 20, 2012 12:09:03 PM

Sunius said:
Of course not. It wouldn't bottleneck even GTX 680.

That's a bit debatable. :??: 
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November 20, 2012 12:24:37 PM

Hilo1222 said:
That's a bit debatable. :??: 


It wouldn't anyway bottleneck the GTX 660 right?

I don't mind about the GTX 680 :p  :D 
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November 20, 2012 12:44:53 PM

No, you will only get into a cpu<gpu bottleneck when you play very cpu intensive games like Skyrim, WoW, and most RTS games. But normally you should be fine. :D  Have fun with your build, gonna start mine in a couple months, you know with money and all. Have fun. ;) 
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November 26, 2012 11:36:18 PM

Best answer selected by coolermaster_72.
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