New build want to see if this is the best for my money/will it work

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130645 MSI Z77A-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77, MOBO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345 CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB, RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130826 EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 660, GFX CARD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB, HARD DRIVE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028 600W ATX12V, POWER SUPPLY
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156280 RAIDMAX AGUSTA ATX-605BW, CASE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151258 SAMSUNG Black Single 8X DVD-ROM, CD DRIVE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz, CPU


With shipping and everything my budget is pretty much $1000. And also wondering on the i7 if that is the right one to get as there are other versions of it for like $50 more and im not sure which to get or if just the nice i5 3.4ghz is better as it saves me $60 if it doesn't make a huge difference.

Thanks!

EDIT: This computer is for video editing/effects, animation, and gaming while recording with fraps.
 
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if you are getting a z77 board get a ivy bridge cpu. if its strictly for gaming get a i5. 3570k if you plan to overclock 3470 if not. if you use some program that benefits from hyperthreading get the 3770k.

you also might want to look at a non reference video card. the reference blowers can get loud.

i would do something like this. i added a ssd and you still have $75 that could either go to the 3770k or a better gpu.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77...

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if you are getting a z77 board get a ivy bridge cpu. if its strictly for gaming get a i5. 3570k if you plan to overclock 3470 if not. if you use some program that benefits from hyperthreading get the 3770k.

you also might want to look at a non reference video card. the reference blowers can get loud.

i would do something like this. i added a ssd and you still have $75 that could either go to the 3770k or a better gpu.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($122.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Intel 330 Series 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.68 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $916.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-02 20:47 EST-0500)
 
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What's the primary use for this system? For starters - do not purchase a Raidmax case - they are a horrible manufacturer that is known for producing a lot of junk. Better would be to get the NZXT Phantom 410 or Antec 1100.

If the primary use is gaming I'd swap the GTX 660 for a Radeon 7950. And get low profile RAM.

This would probably be a better build for $1K:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $997.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-02 20:45 EST-0500)
 

jonjonjon

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only if you plan on overclocking. if you don't plan on overclocking you can get a cheaper cpu and motherboard.

video editing/effects and animation could all benefit from an i7. the question is how much do use the programs and then decide if its worth the extra money.
 

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The case looks cool I'll give it that - but I've used a lot of Raidmax products (my company buys them because they are cheap) but they suck. And I say that without hyperbole - the cases are very cheaply made, very poor build quality, and fall apart very easily. To give you an idea I moved one build that used a Raidmax case from one desk to another and the door fell off.

You need a CPU cooler if you plan to overclock. If you don't you can skip it and the unlocked CPU.
 

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Ya I definitely wont be overclocking. It would be worth the extra money i guess if i knew how big of a difference it would make i know its kinda hard to put that difference into a quantifiable amount. But as far as all the parts playing nicely together and that does it work?

Hmmm I will have to think on the case then cause that defiently scares me if they are that crappy and no looks dont matter a ton but spending a little extra to get a really cool one isnt out of the realm for me ive very picky on styles haha.
 

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Yeah there's a lot of junk out there - especially in cases and power supplies. That initial build is pretty decent, there's a few tweaks I would make.

Here's a slightly different build with a motherboard that doesn't allow overclocking:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1017.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-02 21:07 EST-0500)
 

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So on that why the radeon card, everyone i have talked to said go nvidia because of the cuda for adobe products. And then on the hard drive is the one i have worse or something as it has 1.5tb for cheaper than the 1tb one you added? Same thing with the power supply.
 

jonjonjon

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yea i assumed it was a cheaper 1TB drive. its not exactly easy to go back and look at the parts you picked. that seagate you have does have some bad reviews. but there is no difference as long the seagate isn't DOA. seagate actually makes the samsung drives now.
 

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Hmmm i didnt notice all the bad reviews, makes me want to get a different one for sure but even the other suggested one has same reviews of failing after 6 months...just less of them.
 

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yea now that samsung doesn't make hdd's any more the remaining manufactures are horrible. they have a monoply now. western digital, seagate and hitachi all suck. they have been getting worse and worse.
 

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Dang that doesn't sound encouraging haha
 

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The one you originally suggested that I didnt notice looks really good

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
 

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Yeah that's true that Adobe benefits from CUDA but which ever card you purchase - both the 660TI and Radeon 7950 are comparable to each other - is up to you.

yea now that samsung doesn't make hdd's any more the remaining manufactures are horrible. they have a monoply now. western digital, seagate and hitachi all suck. they have been getting worse and worse.

I've never had any problems with Western Digital. Seagate is a huge mixed bag - they make some decent drives and a lot that suck. I have recently learned that Hitachi sold its' HD division to Western Digital so yeah you're right that they are pretty much a monopoly anymore.
 

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Ok I think I got most of it finilized thanks to you guys, seriously thanks so much for your help, hopefully my last question is, is it worth $20-30 extra to do 16gb of ram vs 8? I know a lot of people say that they dont notice the difference but if im using premiere pro and after effects simultaneously and editing would it make enough of a difference to matter or if im recording a high end game?
 

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You'll probably need the extra RAM for working with those large files but that's one thing where you can always add more as you need it.