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January 3, 2013 4:52:01 PM

REVISED

Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K $169 @ microcenter

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77

Graphics Card: ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti$279.99 after $20.00 rebate card

Case: NZXT Phantom 410 CA-PH410-B $99.99

Power Supply:XFX Core Edition PRO550W $59.99 after $10.00 rebate card

DVD Burner: ASUS 24X DVD Burner 19.99

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 89.99

RAM: Samsung 2x4gb 39.99

Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO 29.99
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Grand Total: (every other part on newegg) $791.87

+ Processor from Microcenter, $174.84


-$30 rebate

Overal price:936.71

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January 3, 2013 5:11:54 PM

That power supply is too expensive. It's a great psu for sure, but you can save 20 dollars and buy one that should work just as well with just 600w.
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January 3, 2013 5:25:28 PM

Well, unless you live near a MicroCenter, you won't get the i5-3750k for that price because it is in-store only. I would stick with the PSU or maybe even an 80+ cerified.

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $134.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-03 14:24 EST-0500)
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January 3, 2013 5:29:48 PM

stingstang said:
That power supply is too expensive. It's a great psu for sure, but you can save 20 dollars and buy one that should work just as well with just 600w.


A CX600 is too expensive? You'd rather they go with some Coolmax or Diablotek garbage supply that blows up and takes out their system with it? :heink: 

Cheap power supplies ARE NOT WORTH IT. Period. I've seen what happens when you use them and I will object every single time - you do not go cheap in this area or it will not end well.
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January 3, 2013 6:38:35 PM

2858289,3,1529579 said:
Well, unless you live near a MicroCenter, you won't get the i5-3750k for that price because it is in-store only. I would stick with the PSU or maybe even an 80+ cerified.

Is the amount of watts i'm using decent for this build; feedbate on entire thing please.
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January 3, 2013 6:39:24 PM

I'm still looking for Ram/Harddrive/Cooling[stated above]. Any suggestions ?
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January 3, 2013 6:40:55 PM

Yeah, the power rating is fine (a bit high actually but won't hurt). If you want to go with an 80+ Certified (at least Bronze), they are more efficient (on the power bill) and usually of better quality.
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January 3, 2013 6:47:42 PM

cball1311 said:
Yeah, the power rating is fine (a bit high actually but won't hurt). If you want to go with an 80+ Certified (at least Bronze), they are more efficient (on the power bill) and usually of better quality.



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ?

What are brands that i should be looking for when buying Psu, I was told not to use thermalmake because it's a cheap brand



The one i'm buying is already 80 plus bronze
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My sure my parents would rather have a lower bill when using something thats more efficient (towards the bill )and better quality(that'll last me).
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January 3, 2013 6:52:56 PM

PSU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... / http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Don't get the corsair cx, it's a entry level of psu from corsair, you can get better quality psu for the same price.
The cooler, if you want the best for oc, get the hyper 212 evo.
RAM : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU(if you consider the 660 ti) : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 3, 2013 6:57:25 PM

whats your total budget? never mind i just saw you live next to a micro center. if your on a tight budget micro center has a combo for a 3570k for $170 + a msi Z77A-G41 for $40 after $10 MIR.
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January 3, 2013 7:12:04 PM



Why the choice in GPU over the one i picked, Also why those Ram sticks over the 2/3 rams i listed that are 8gb.

Quote:
Or Ram, which would be best: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] D=10446076

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] D=10446076

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] D=10446076

Also: Which would be best for over clocking.

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January 3, 2013 7:17:05 PM

See this : http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-ge...
http://techreport.com/review/24022/does-the-radeon-hd-7...
http://www.techpowerup.com/178129/AMD-to-Fix-GCN-Latenc...

And the 660 ti is cheaper, and offers a game(assassins creed 3), the 7950 offers none(amd never settle promotion is over).
For the ram, it's also 8GB dual channel 1600 mhz like the others, but its overclock potential is really good(can reach 2133mhz or beyond that) vs ram at the same price, also comes with lifetime warranty and it's a low profile ram, good for clearance for larger coolers.
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January 3, 2013 7:22:56 PM

You are off to a very good start ! Some minor suggestions for build and to save money. I'm assuming a gaming computer.

1. Microcenter is the best place to buy CPU and Motherboard combo. Period.
2. Go to pcpartpicker.com and put your build into the system. It will:
- let you know if your parts are compatible
- give you an estimated power required (double required power for PSU watts [is a rough guide] )
- give you the best price and location where to buy that item

you can do better pricewise by shopping amazon, newegg, tigerdirect, and Microcenter once you have your items selected.

3. I would / did get the I5 3570k. You do not have to overclock it ( i have one, and have not overclocked yet ... but I will). The K means you CAN overclock it. I have the 3570k and the ASRock z77 Ext 4. They are an awesome fit !
4. Cooler Master Hypo 212 is great and quiet (intel fans are average and loud). The Hypo 212 comes with fan, quick silver ... all you need.
5. Overclocking (o/c) in a sentence or two: O/C is increasing the CPU base speed. The computer will work faster. It takes more power and generates more heat.
6. A Solid State Drive (SSD) is nice but not a requirement. Samsung 830/840, Crucial M4, Intel 330 are all good. Not below 120 GB
7. HDD's are good for mass storage, SSD's are great for operating system and 1 or two of your favorite games.
8. For the build. Watch youtube "newegg parts 2&3". This is a step by step walk through showing you what and how to build your computer. I've built 2 computers and am of average intelligence. These 2 videos are great !!
9. Quality PSU's: Corsair, Seasonic, and PC Power and Cooling. Of note: I have the PSU you've chosen. It's quiet and powers my system.

"Perfection is the enemy of good enough !"

Good Luck and Enjoy !!
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January 3, 2013 8:25:47 PM

djangoringo said:
See this : http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-ge...
http://techreport.com/review/24022/does-the-radeon-hd-7...
http://www.techpowerup.com/178129/AMD-to-Fix-GCN-Latenc...

And the 660 ti is cheaper, and offers a game(assassins creed 3), the 7950 offers none(amd never settle promotion is over).
For the ram, it's also 8GB dual channel 1600 mhz like the others, but its overclock potential is really good(can reach 2133mhz or beyond that) vs ram at the same price, also comes with lifetime warranty and it's a low profile ram, good for clearance for larger coolers.



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Which would be better.
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January 3, 2013 8:32:45 PM

The asus is better, best quiet custom coolers for nvidia cards, it will be perfect for your case(fractal r4), but it cost more 20$(before rebate. 10$ more after).
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January 3, 2013 8:34:02 PM

djangoringo said:
The asus is better, best quiet custom coolers for nvidia cards, it will be perfect for your case(fractal r4)


I'm using a phantom black 410 case :p 
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January 3, 2013 8:35:59 PM

lol, i thought your case was a fractal design r4.
Both are good ones, the gigabyte is cheaper, the asus more quiet, if you don't card about that, get the gigabyte.
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January 3, 2013 8:52:26 PM

g-unit1111 said:
A CX600 is too expensive? You'd rather they go with some Coolmax or Diablotek garbage supply that blows up and takes out their system with it? :heink: 

Cheap power supplies ARE NOT WORTH IT. Period. I've seen what happens when you use them and I will object every single time - you do not go cheap in this area or it will not end well.


I infer that he changed the PSU
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January 3, 2013 9:23:38 PM

I always wanted a lightshow, Does anyone have any suggestions ? Where i would start, what parts to buy ? :p  Since i'm going to be saving a lot i'll invest into some flashing fans lol
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January 3, 2013 9:26:45 PM

djangoringo said:
See this : http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-ge...
http://techreport.com/review/24022/does-the-radeon-hd-7...
http://www.techpowerup.com/178129/AMD-to-Fix-GCN-Latenc...

And the 660 ti is cheaper, and offers a game(assassins creed 3), the 7950 offers none(amd never settle promotion is over).
For the ram, it's also 8GB dual channel 1600 mhz like the others, but its overclock potential is really good(can reach 2133mhz or beyond that) vs ram at the same price, also comes with lifetime warranty and it's a low profile ram, good for clearance for larger coolers.





This Ram :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Both have lifetime warranty, Would you still pick samsung over corsair aside from it's low profile ?explain a bot more please, it's my final decision.
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January 3, 2013 9:30:00 PM

Yes, cause the samsung has a lower voltage, meaning it overclocks better than the corsair, and it's lower profile and cheaper.
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January 3, 2013 9:44:55 PM

djangoringo said:
Yes, cause the samsung has a lower voltage, meaning it overclocks better than the corsair, and it's lower profile and cheaper.



I have access to all Operating systems, Which windows 7 should i use Home premium, Professional, Ultimate.

Excluding price relations, which should i use?
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January 3, 2013 9:49:42 PM

djangoringo said:
PSU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... / http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Don't get the corsair cx, it's a entry level of psu from corsair, you can get better quality psu for the same price.
The cooler, if you want the best for oc, get the hyper 212 evo.
RAM : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU(if you consider the 660 ti) : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Anyone who still reccomends the 660Ti over the 7950 needs to get with the times.

-7950 overclocks WAY better, the 660Ti/670 are voltage locked.
-384 bit bus means better high res/AA/AF/Multimonitor/CF scaling.
-3GB memory means better performance on heavily moddable games such as Skyrim.
-AMD OpenCL/Directcompute is vastly superior to Nvidia's.
-Scales better with CF+Memory means better future proofing.
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January 3, 2013 9:53:45 PM

darksparten said:
Anyone who still reccomends the 660Ti over the 7950 needs to get with the times.

-7950 overclocks WAY better, the 660Ti/670 are voltage locked.
-384 bit bus means better high res/AA/AF/Multimonitor/CF scaling.
-3GB memory means better performance on heavily moddable games such as Skyrim.
-AMD OpenCL/Directcompute is vastly superior to Nvidia's.
-Scales better with CF+Memory means better future proofing.



If you'd seen my previous post, you'd know why :

See this : http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-ge...
http://techreport.com/review/24022/does-the-radeon-hd-7...
http://www.techpowerup.com/178129/AMD-to-Fix-GCN-Latenc...

And the 660 ti is cheaper, and offers a game(assassins creed 3), the 7950 offers none(amd never settle promotion is over).

That's what i wrote...


As for the os, the Home premium 64 bits is enough for your needs, the pro only if you plan to add 32GB(ram).
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January 3, 2013 9:56:26 PM

djangoringo said:
If you'd seen my previous post, you'd know why :

See this : http://techreport.com/review/23981 [...] -revisited
http://techreport.com/review/24022 [...] -windows-8
http://www.techpowerup.com/178129/ [...] dates.html

And the 660 ti is cheaper, and offers a game(assassins creed 3), the 7950 offers none(amd never settle promotion is over).


As for the os, the Home premium 64 bits is enough for your needs, the pro only if you plan to add 32GB.



32GB of what..... sorry i'm a noob :p  I use photoshop/sony vegas, are you positive about home premium 64bit , over pro/ultimate?
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January 3, 2013 9:57:30 PM

32 GB of ram, even for that 16GB is plenty, no need for pro.
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January 3, 2013 10:00:53 PM

Home premium. For gaming / home use you gain no benefit from the other versions.
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January 3, 2013 10:03:50 PM

Photoshop/Vegas you may want 16, but you'll do fine with 8.

o.o never settle ended, I thought i ended december 2013, stock ran out already?
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January 3, 2013 10:19:47 PM

What best to partition a 2TB Harddrive?
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January 3, 2013 10:42:17 PM

REVISED

Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K $169 @ microcenter

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77

Graphics Card: ASUS GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti$279.99 after $20.00 rebate card

Case: NZXT Phantom 410 CA-PH410-B $99.99

Power Supply:XFX Core Edition PRO550W $59.99 after $10.00 rebate card

DVD Burner: ASUS 24X DVD Burner 19.99

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 89.99

RAM: Samsung 2x4gb 39.99

Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO 29.99
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Grand Total: (every other part on newegg) $791.87

+ Processor from Microcenter, $174.84


-$30 rebate

Overal price:936.71
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January 3, 2013 10:45:45 PM

For those who have been helping me build my computer, may you please recheck it . (: MORE FEEEEDBACK!
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January 3, 2013 10:54:32 PM

if you have all version of windows install ultimate. there is no downside to installing ultimate other then price.

this is better with a ssd. also if you go to micro center you can get the msi Z77A-G41 for $40 after $10 MIR. that would save you $100. i know he loves recommending the samsung ram but unless you know how to overclock them your spending money for slower ram.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($273.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $915.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-03 19:51 EST-0500)
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January 3, 2013 11:05:29 PM

If you really want 1.35v(RAM OC makes next to no difference, most of the time the RAM will underclock to 1066/1333 anyways). Corsair makes 1.35v with heatspreaders, I highly reccomend heatspreaders as it will extend your product lifetime by a lot by reducing stress on the chip.

I'd highly suggest a Caviar Black over a Barracuda, Caviar Blacks are not only faster, they have a much lower failure rate and an unbeatable 5-year warranty.
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January 3, 2013 11:16:34 PM

$100 and over ships from ncix for free. so if he got the case and hdd it would.

and that NZXT Phantom 410 CA-PH410-B case from newegg has $10 shipping so its really $110.
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January 4, 2013 6:32:26 PM

Any last thoughts on listed items before i buy it?
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January 4, 2013 6:38:56 PM

Well since you like the phantom case, the only thing to recommend is a ssd, like a crucial m4, sandisk extreme, samsung 830 with 120-128GB.
If you don't need one, then just pull the trigger and good luck with your build.
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January 4, 2013 6:55:39 PM

that sandisk uses asynchronous nand.
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January 4, 2013 6:58:55 PM

I thought it was the extreme, my bad, there's the crucial m4 at a good price, though.
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