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January 4, 2013 1:03:47 AM

Hey guys :)  thanks for clicking on my post.i am thinking of making myself my very first PC.it is my first time building any sort of PC and so i come to this forum to ask for help from the pros and tech heads :) i am going to be using the AMD Athlon II X3 450 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... as my CPU.i am on a budget of 400$ and would like help choosing the other parts for my gaming PC.please help me out by putting the parts u think i should use in a list with links, i would prefer new-egg as the parts suppler.
I already have a monitor,mouse,keyboard,speakers,Os so don't include those.
use a list like this:
Psu:
motherboard:
Graphics card:
Case:
Ram:
CD ROM:
Hard drive:

all should be under 400$ thanks :kaola: 


January 4, 2013 1:27:58 AM

Can I ask why you are using that CPU? Do you already own it or is that just a choice that you are set on. If so I can offer alternatives. Also is that $400 flexible if it goes slightly over?
January 4, 2013 1:36:46 AM

i though it was an ok cpu is it bad?
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January 4, 2013 1:37:17 AM

and no i haven't bought it
January 4, 2013 1:43:03 AM

stay tuned
January 4, 2013 1:46:37 AM

Do you live near a Microcenter?
January 4, 2013 1:48:24 AM

i live in the uk
January 4, 2013 1:50:25 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Smart Tracer 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($111.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 360 ATX Mini Tower Case ($38.86 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $433.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-03 22:49 EST-0500)

A little bit over, but well worth it. I wouldn't recommend anything less than a 7770 for HD gaming. If you have any questions let me know!
January 4, 2013 1:54:25 AM

that looks like a great build but does the cpu and gpu not bottleneck together?
January 4, 2013 2:00:59 AM

giotec1993 said:
that looks like a great build but does the cpu and gpu not bottleneck together?


No, the 7770 and 3220 are quite evenly matched. If I may ask, what type of games are you looking to play? Some games rely more on the CPU, others more on the GPU. If your mostly playing one or the other, it may be wise to change parts.
January 4, 2013 2:03:15 AM

the games i would be playing are Farcry 3 ,bf3 and most of the new games that came out in 2011/12
January 4, 2013 2:04:22 AM

but have you got a Amd build other than that Intel builds would like to see.
January 4, 2013 2:05:00 AM

giotec1993 said:
i live in the uk

hmmm so that would rule out Newegg. I had been working on something.
I was thinking the below list so far:
CPU: Intel Pentium Sandy Bridge G860
mobo: A cheap H77 board from ASROCK H77M
Mem: 8GB of low cost RAM
PSU: Corsair CX430
HDD: Seagate 500GB Barracuda
Case: Zalman Z5
Video: Sapphire 7770

I would look at a Pentium CPU as it would give you a good bang for the buck coupled with a lowend video card.
January 4, 2013 2:06:28 AM

giotec1993 said:
the games i would be playing are Farcry 3 ,bf3 and most of the new games that came out in 2011/12

You will have a hard time with those games on a $400 build.

giotec1993 said:
but have you got a Amd build other than that Intel builds would like to see.

In that lower end gaming machine an AMD build would not do as well as an Intel with a lowend dedicated card. the only AMD i'd recommend is the FX-6300 because it falls between the i3 and i5, but since that gets out of your range I'd stick with Intel.
January 4, 2013 2:10:32 AM

i have a 1024 by 768 monitor and i was planning on getting a hd 6670 i wont be playing the games on ultra just want med-high settings
January 4, 2013 2:12:51 AM

giotec1993 said:
the games i would be playing are Farcry 3 ,bf3 and most of the new games that came out in 2011/12


With the 3220 and 7770 I recommended you should be able to play those games on low to medium if your lucky. The games you listed are quite intensive. Have a look at the system requirements for these games and see if you meet them or not.

With that resolution it makes it a little bit easier. I'd say medium might be achievable, though a little better graphics card would certainly help.
January 4, 2013 2:19:42 AM

im not that into the really high graphics settings mid-high is alright for me and ability to record in 720p while playing
January 4, 2013 2:24:11 AM

Excellent. Just don't have too high expectations for it. For the money, its as good as it can get. If you have money later on, upgrade the GPU to a 7850, should be a lot better.
January 4, 2013 2:26:26 AM

Would the 7770 really fit into an Elite 360? I received an old one for free from my cousin but I have been unsure about using it due to the relatively small size, and uncertainty about fitting certain cards in there such as the 7850. I feel that it could get a bit crowded in there and cut air flow. At 1024 x 768 resolutions you could probably play the games at slightly higher settings since the resolution isn't too high. And with the build suggested before, you may need to include a optical drive. Also, do you need an OS, keyboard, or mouse?
January 4, 2013 2:30:54 AM

NerdBBQ said:
Would the 7770 really fit into an Elite 360? I received an old one for free from my cousin but I have been unsure about using it due to the relatively small size, and uncertainty about fitting certain cards in there such as the 7850. I feel that it could get a bit crowded in there and cut air flow. At 1024 x 768 resolutions you could probably play the games at slightly higher settings since the resolution isn't too high. And with the build suggested before, you may need to include a optical drive. Also, do you need an OS, keyboard, or mouse?


I just threw in a decent looking case. Usually the builder will select a different one anyway, depending on their personal taste.

And yes, I did forget the optical drive. :(  Just add $20 for one.
January 4, 2013 6:11:27 AM

giotec1993 said:
i have a 1024 by 768 monitor and i was planning on getting a hd 6670 i wont be playing the games on ultra just want med-high settings


At this resolution, a 7770 should get you high settings without much issue.

Also, an i3 3220 won't bottleneck anything up to a 7950.

If you wanted, you could get an amd phenom 2 x4 965 black edition, but you would have to have a big overclock (4.0ghz ish) for it to be any better or even as good as an i3.
January 4, 2013 6:37:41 AM

You buying in UK ? Amazon sell Bitfenix Merc Alpha case at £33 - Plenty of ventilation and fan space - but may be too big for some - found it great improvement on the ex HP pc case that I gutted and re-used, despite being thin metal its very quiet with 3 cooling fans
January 4, 2013 6:35:12 PM

tiny voices said:
At this resolution, a 7770 should get you high settings without much issue.

Also, an i3 3220 won't bottleneck anything up to a 7950.

If you wanted, you could get an amd phenom 2 x4 965 black edition, but you would have to have a big overclock (4.0ghz ish) for it to be any better or even as good as an i3.


I'm pretty sure an i3 doesn't outperform a Phenom by THAT much. They seem pretty equal, with the 4 cores in the Phenom being a plus in operations that utilize them. The only bad thing is that the Phenom draws about 2x as much power as the i3.
January 5, 2013 7:48:39 PM

On a per core basis, the i3 will crush the phenom. I had an overclocked 965be and I recently switched to a 3225 and the difference is pretty noticeable. In threaded applications, there's no contest.
January 5, 2013 8:29:54 PM

tiny voices said:
On a per core basis, the i3 will crush the phenom. I had an overclocked 965be and I recently switched to a 3225 and the difference is pretty noticeable. In threaded applications, there's no contest.

Well obviously that's true, but let's just leave it at the fact that they're both good processors, with the i3 being overall a better package. (Don't want to start a flame war or anything :p )
November 2, 2013 3:08:30 AM

There are Some Questions for this Build
1) Will you OC your CPU ?
2) In What Settings You will play Low-Med or Med-High ?
3) Are You a Serious Gamer or a Casual Gamer on this Budget ?


This are My Recommendations.Please do Consider Others too

In This Budget AMD CPU's are Better because You will get only a Dual core Intel i3 3220.

If You want a Hexa Core 6-Core ,Get the AMD FX 6300.
If You want a Quad Core 4-Core with Inbuilt GPU,Get The AMD A8 6800K
Dual Core is Not Recomended because it has started to show their Age.But you can get a Cheaper Intel i3 3220 but It is Not better Than any above of These CPU's.

I recommend a HD 7770 or a GTX 650 TI not Non-TI for Medium-High Gaming.But Don't buy a GPU if you are Buying the Quad Core APU

6 GB or 8 GB RAM 1866 Mhz is Recommended as a 4 GB RAM has a Slight Bottleneck for a Quad Core and the Hexa Core.4 GB is Enough for a Dual Core.

Samsung SSD 830 120 GB SSD will be a Great one.I use the 840 non PRO 120 GB.I have also Used the 830 AND IT WAS GREAT !!

MSI FM2-A75MA-P33 SATA III USB III Motherboard for AMD A10 6800K has Got Great Reviews but its a Bit Pricey for a Budget like This.
ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2 SATA III USB III Motherboard for AMD FX 6300 also Has Great Reviews but is a bit Cheaper than than MSI one.

Corsair CX 500 80 PLUS Bronze PSU is Very Good and Reliable.

The Cooler Master K380 is a Cool Case with Great Cooling and a Side Window.

Get the Cooler Master 212+ NOT THE EVO !! ;) 

Just Try to squeze another 50$ or a 100$ for this build.

Overall : I would have Gone with the AMD FX 6300 because
APU chips lack L3 cache, which hurts gaming performance. Piledriver based FX chips (Vishera) are superior clock for clock in games because of this.It Has More Cores.The Build is a Bit Cheaper.
It can OC further than the APU.I t Runs Cooler and has a bit Lower Idle TDP.It also has a better Single Core Performance.But the Downs are We have to buy a separate GPU and we Have to get 8 GB Ram

Thank You.
You have Also Given me some Knowledge of Building a Budget Gaming PC
All the Best for your Build


November 2, 2013 3:11:09 AM

There are Some Questions for this Build
1) Will you OC your CPU ?
2) In What Settings You will play Low-Med or Med-High ?
3) Are You a Serious Gamer or a Casual Gamer on this Budget ?


This are My Recommendations.Please do Consider Others too

In This Budget AMD CPU's are Better because You will get only a Dual core Intel i3 3220.

If You want a Hexa Core 6-Core ,Get the AMD FX 6300.
If You want a Quad Core 4-Core with Inbuilt GPU,Get The AMD A8 6800K
Dual Core is Not Recomended because it has started to show their Age.But you can get a Cheaper Intel i3 3220 but It is Not better Than any above of These CPU's.

I recommend a HD 7770 or a GTX 650 TI not Non-TI for Medium-High Gaming.But Don't buy a GPU if you are Buying the Quad Core APU

6 GB or 8 GB RAM 1866 Mhz is Recommended as a 4 GB RAM has a Slight Bottleneck for a Quad Core and the Hexa Core.4 GB is Enough for a Dual Core.

Samsung SSD 830 120 GB SSD will be a Great one.I use the 840 non PRO 120 GB.I have also Used the 830 AND IT WAS GREAT !!

MSI FM2-A75MA-P33 SATA III USB III Motherboard for AMD A10 6800K has Got Great Reviews but its a Bit Pricey for a Budget like This.
ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2 SATA III USB III Motherboard for AMD FX 6300 also Has Great Reviews but is a bit Cheaper than than MSI one.

Corsair CX 500 80 PLUS Bronze PSU is Very Good and Reliable.

The Cooler Master K380 is a Cool Case with Great Cooling and a Side Window.

Get the Cooler Master 212+ NOT THE EVO !! ;) 

Just Try to squeze another 50$ or a 100$ for this build.

Overall : I would have Gone with the AMD FX 6300 because
APU chips lack L3 cache, which hurts gaming performance. Piledriver based FX chips (Vishera) are superior clock for clock in games because of this.It Has More Cores.The Build is a Bit Cheaper.
It can OC further than the APU.I t Runs Cooler and has a bit Lower Idle TDP.It also has a better Single Core Performance.But the Downs are We have to buy a separate GPU and we Have to get 8 GB Ram.Its Clock is a slower only 3.5 Ghz but its No problem because we can OC it.

Thank You.
You have also given me some Knowledge for Building a Budget Gaming PC.

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