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January 5, 2013 12:38:07 AM

What I'm looking at now: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=wish_list...

MB: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard – $135
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770 – $299
CPU cooler: NZXT Havik 140 CPU Cooler – $69
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 WF2 2GB – $399
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 250GB SSD Retail Box – $205
HDD: recycling 1TB disk from previous computer
Optical: recycling dvd drive from previous computer

RAM: Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 – $55
PSU: Silverstone Strider Plus 750W ST75F-P – $145
Case: Corsair Carbide 500R White Mid-Tower Case – $151.10 (from http://itsdirect.com.au/ due to cheaper case postage)

Current Total: $1557.10

Things I'm after in order of priority:
1. Reliability
2. Longevity/Upgradeability
3. Quietness
4. Video editing power
5. Gaming power


Here's the answers to the question template:

Approximate Purchase Date: This month.

Budget Range: $1500 to $1800 excluding shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
1. Casual hobbyist video editing
2. Intermediate gaming

Are you buying a monitor: No, already have a 24".

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, either W7 or W8 don't know.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: PCCaseGear.com or secondarily mwave.com.au or ITsDirect.com.au

Location: Darwin, Australia

Parts Preferences: Nvidia/Intel (had recent bad experience w/ amd)

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
January 5, 2013 1:01:30 AM

only thing is your getting a 3770 non k version and a z77 motherboard. if your not going to get the unlocked version you could save some money on the motherboard. the stock intel heat sink will also be fine for a non overclocked cpu. so you could get rid of the cpu cooler. the regualr 840 uses TLC nand the sandisk extreme for $180 below uses MLC which is better but has a sandforce controller. but other then that it looks good.

http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...

you could also get the 830 which is better then the 840 for $5 more.
http://www.scorptec.com.au/computer/45508-mz-7pc256b/ww
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January 5, 2013 5:57:55 AM

jonjonjon said:
only thing is your getting a 3770 non k version and a z77 motherboard. if your not going to get the unlocked version you could save some money on the motherboard. the stock intel heat sink will also be fine for a non overclocked cpu. so you could get rid of the cpu cooler. the regualr 840 uses TLC nand the sandisk extreme for $180 below uses MLC which is better but has a sandforce controller. but other then that it looks good.

http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...

you could also get the 830 which is better then the 840 for $5 more.
http://www.scorptec.com.au/computer/45508-mz-7pc256b/ww

Thank you for the suggestions!

Which motherboard are you saying I should change to then? As long as it is a quality & reliable motherboard with all the basic features and room for upgrades in future any is fine.

Also, if I wanted to spend about $200 more on this to make it better, where would you propose I put that into the build?

I've started throwing it together over here: http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/vYIX
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January 5, 2013 6:32:12 AM

Look at making these changes to your build. More RAM for editing purposes and low profile RAM so you don't impede the cpu heat sink. Solid cooler down below, and an SSD with faster read/write speeds.


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $89.00
G.Skill Ares F3-1600C10D-16GAO 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $35.00
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $179.00
Plextor PX-256M5S 256GB SSD

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $335.00
Intel Core i7 3770K
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January 5, 2013 8:37:33 AM

This would be good.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($335.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($135.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($141.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)
Total: $1274.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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January 5, 2013 8:42:41 AM

I would go with the msi 7950
It has amazing overclocking and if you are doing anything with video amd is the best choice ;) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($310.48 @ SuperBiiz)
and windows 8 is better than 7 you can get the old start bar and menu back
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.99 @ NCIX US)


@Sumukh_Bhagat WTH are you doing telling him to get the 212 at his price range, my $800 can use it not his 1200 build

forget the video card, looking at your motherboard
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January 5, 2013 5:12:29 PM

ybnrmalatall said:
I would go with the msi 7950
It has amazing overclocking and if you are doing anything with video amd is the best choice ;) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($310.48 @ SuperBiiz)
and windows 8 is better than 7 you can get the old start bar and menu back
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.99 @ NCIX US)


@Sumukh_Bhagat WTH are you doing telling him to get the 212 at his price range, my $800 can use it not his 1200 build

forget the video card, looking at your motherboard


you forgot this is AU not US

Also he will be doing Video editing and 670 beats the 7950 at that fairly easy with its Cuda cores
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January 5, 2013 5:28:05 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($335.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($135.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($174.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($115.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Plus 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($145.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $1556.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-06 06:27 EST+1100)

i would probably switch extreme4 to a extreme6 and upgrade the case to a 500r-600t
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January 5, 2013 5:35:13 PM

if they are a Casual hobbyist video editing they dont need 16GB of ram. plus you can always buy another 8GB later if its needed.

the z77 are overclocking motherboards so if you have no intention on overclocking and are getting the locked 3770. you could get a cheaper H77 board. the extreme4 will be fine your just going to pay more for the overclocking features that you wont use. if you want to overclock get the 3770k.

ASRock H77-PRO4-MVP $95
http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...

also you need to decide if you will use the hyperthreading in the 3770 and if its worth the $100+ over getting a i5-3570k or i5-3470. you are the only one that can answer that question.

i5-3470 $190
http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...

if you dont mind ordering from scorptec.com.au the samsung 830 is a better drive but it costs $25 more. in all reality you wont notice a difference between the sandisk extreme and the 830.

you could also save some money on the psu. this is a good psu and should be plenty to run the 670.

Antec High Current Gamer 520W $83
http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...
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January 5, 2013 5:51:18 PM

jonjonjon said:
if they are a Casual hobbyist video editing they dont need 16GB of ram. plus you can always buy another 8GB later if its needed.

the z77 are overclocking motherboards so if you have no intention on overclocking and are getting the locked 3770. you could get a cheaper H77 board. the extreme4 will be fine your just going to pay more for the overclocking features that you wont use. if you want to overclock get the 3770k.

ASRock H77-PRO4-MVP $95
http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...

also you need to decide if you will use the hyperthreading in the 3770 and if its worth the $100+ over getting a i5-3570k or i5-3470. you are the only one that can answer that question.

i5-3470 $190
http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...

if you dont mind ordering from scorptec.com.au the samsung 830 is a better drive but it costs $25 more. in all reality you wont notice a difference between the sandisk extreme and the 830.

you could also save some money on the psu. this is a good psu and should be plenty to run the 670.

Antec High Current Gamer 520W $83
http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...



priority is video editing over gaming

it says so on the first post where he made a list of his priorities
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January 5, 2013 5:55:49 PM

they said "Casual hobbyist video editing". i doubt they need 16GB of ram.
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January 5, 2013 6:24:33 PM

jonjonjon said:
they said "Casual hobbyist video editing". i doubt they need 16GB of ram.


ahh didnt see that part, he should have put it together with his priorities.

Guess i should change my build into an i5 build instead

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($135.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($174.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($115.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Plus 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($145.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $1277.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-06 07:23 EST+1100)

if OCing, grab that nzxt 140 you have there, and get that 500R or 600T
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January 5, 2013 6:52:49 PM

yea either way. that's way i gave them the option. its pretty much something they need to figure out how much editing they do and if it will be worth it to them.
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January 5, 2013 6:58:32 PM

jonjonjon said:
if they are a Casual hobbyist video editing they dont need 16GB of ram. plus you can always buy another 8GB later if its needed.

the z77 are overclocking motherboards so if you have no intention on overclocking and are getting the locked 3770. you could get a cheaper H77 board. the extreme4 will be fine your just going to pay more for the overclocking features that you wont use. if you want to overclock get the 3770k.

ASRock H77-PRO4-MVP $95
http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...

also you need to decide if you will use the hyperthreading in the 3770 and if its worth the $100+ over getting a i5-3570k or i5-3470. you are the only one that can answer that question.

i5-3470 $190
http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...

if you dont mind ordering from scorptec.com.au the samsung 830 is a better drive but it costs $25 more. in all reality you wont notice a difference between the sandisk extreme and the 830.

you could also save some money on the psu. this is a good psu and should be plenty to run the 670.

Antec High Current Gamer 520W $83
http://pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...

That motherboard elminates future SLI/Crossfire so no need for a 750w psu. With the motherboard and psu the OP has in his build he has the option to SLI later on down the road. 16GB of RAM isn't that much more than 8GB and it still leaves the OP two empty RAM slots. The SSD I posted goes for 180 AUD and has 256GB capacity.
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January 5, 2013 7:03:18 PM

the op does "Intermediate gaming" no need to worry about sli. and the samsung 830 is a better ssd then the plexor M5S. the op wont need 32GB. they probably wont even need 16GB.
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January 5, 2013 8:55:00 PM

Okay sorry for the confusion everyone, I've done some thinking and can narrow down what I'm after:

- Yes I only do casual editing so i5 sounds appropriate, no need for i7
- 8gb is fine, confused about whether to go low profile or not
- I've decided I would like to keep the options of overclocking and SLI open for the future. So that's a YES to overclocking & SLI

Seems like you all have different favourite SSDs, so I assume they're all pretty similar.

I should also note that I live in a fairly hot and dusty climate, does this mean I should get a pretty decent case and cpu cooler so that it's quiet?

Also, if I buy the parts in multiple installments & get the GPU last, can I use my old Radeon 6870 temporarily in this system? Everything's compatible?
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January 5, 2013 9:15:11 PM

tinkermaths said:
Okay sorry for the confusion everyone, I've done some thinking and can narrow down what I'm after:

- Yes I only do casual editing so i5 sounds appropriate, no need for i7
- 8gb is fine, confused about whether to go low profile or not
- I've decided I would like to keep the options of overclocking and SLI open for the future. So that's a YES to overclocking & SLI

Seems like you all have different favourite SSDs, so I assume they're all pretty similar.

I should also note that I live in a fairly hot and dusty climate, does this mean I should get a pretty decent case and cpu cooler so that it's quiet?

Also, if I buy the parts in multiple installments & get the GPU last, can I use my old Radeon 6870 temporarily in this system? Everything's compatible?

You want low profile for the fact that RAM that looks like a hair comb will impede the cpu heat sink. That case you chose (Corsair 500R) is quiet...it has a multi channel fan controller and dust filters. The CM EVO I posted is a fairly quiet cpu heat sink with a great mounting system along with adjustable fans. As far as the SSD's posted on here...Samsung, Sandisk, and Plextor....you can't go wrong with any of them. They either use a Toshiba controller or a Marvell controller and both are solid controllers.
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January 5, 2013 9:16:22 PM

jonjonjon said:
the op does "Intermediate gaming" no need to worry about sli. and the samsung 830 is a better ssd then the plexor M5S. the op wont need 32GB. they probably wont even need 16GB.

Why is the Samsung better than the Plextor I posted? The Plextor uses a Marvell controller and is solid as the reviews show. Samsung, Sandisk, and Plextor...flip a coin.
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January 5, 2013 9:25:00 PM

Why_Me said:
Why is the Samsung better than the Plextor I posted? The Plextor uses a Marvell controller and is solid as the reviews show. Samsung, Sandisk, and Plextor...flip a coin.


Yea i would personally go with the plextor because the difference in speed between the m5s and the 830 is minimal to the mind but certainly not the price of your wallet
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January 5, 2013 9:34:42 PM

yea i would get the cheapest one. the samsung and the sandisk have toggle nand which is better then the synchronous nand in the plextor. the sandisk has a sandforce controller which is its downside. the plextor pro also has some consistency issues which i can only guess would also be present in the lesser M5S.
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January 5, 2013 10:38:22 PM

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6505/plextor-releases-fir...

Quote:
Wow, that's bad. While we haven't run the IO consistency test on all the SSDs we have in our labs, the M5 Pro is definitely the worst one we have tested so far. In less than a minute the M5 Pro's performance drops below 100, which at 4KB transfer size is equal to 0.4MB/s. What makes it worse is that the drops are not sporadic but in fact most of the IOs are in the magnitude of 100 IOPS. There are singular peak transfers that happen at 30-40K IOPS but the drive consistently performs much worse.
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January 6, 2013 1:40:14 AM

Yes i know of the M5P problems but i do not know of M5S
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January 6, 2013 2:49:17 AM

In terms of the case, it's difficult to find Australian stores who have a specific one and decent shipping prices. So I've been looking around for the best Corsair 500R and 600T deals, but could you guys please name one or two other good cases I can keep an eye out for? Similar price range I suppose, $150 to $200.
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January 6, 2013 3:25:50 AM

Antec,
Silverstone(sometimes very different from normal cases so may be difficult to build in),
Coolermaster(usually a quality case),
Fractal(same as coolermaster but i havent really had a bad case from fractal in a while),
NZXT(to a point),
lian li(haven't seen them lately but back then was great brand),
and Corsair(great quality)
of course cases vary so some are bad and others are great even to these brands. But these are the brands that i prefer to get for a mid-full tower case.

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January 6, 2013 3:33:30 AM

Switch 810 is quite a bit of money, it is made for Watercooling but it can still be a good air build. If you really wanted to spend that much money on a full tower, i would get a Coolermaster HAF X or Storm Styker
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January 6, 2013 9:50:03 PM

Okay here's what I'm now looking at: (yes I changed my mind on the RAM again)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($165.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Plus 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($145.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)
Total: $1152.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-07 10:47 EST+1100)

Any more tweaks to suggest?
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January 6, 2013 10:02:58 PM

looks good to me
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