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Asus DirectCU II HD 7970 performance problems

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November 21, 2012 5:25:18 PM

Heya, yesterday i got my new GPU and SSD, of course i installed a fresh Win7 on the SSD and format my HDD. Then i installed the new AMD Beta driver. Today i wanted to test some games, mainly CoD Bo2 but the sad truth is, i can't play it smoothly. My fps gets to 25-40 fps with 99% usage. Also i think my internet browsers(opera and firefox) doesn't work well either, atleast not that good like before when i had my gtx 570.

I did some 3DMark 11 tests and those are the results:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4999767 Extreme settings @2048x1152
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4999864 Perfomance settings @2048x1152
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4999909 Perfomance settings @1280x720

those were made with the new beta driver from amd. After this i installed the normal 12.10 WHQL driver and tested again:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5000251

It actually performed a bit better.

My System is:


CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155
Mainboard: ASUS P8P67, Sockel 1155, ATX, DDR3
GPU: ASUS DirectCU II HD 7970
Case: Xigmatek Midgard mit Sichtfenster (CPC-T55DB-U02)
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB, SATA II (HD105SI)
SSD: Samsung 830 Series
CPU cooler: Scythe Mugen 2 CPU-Kühler, für alle Sockel geeignet
Laufwerk: PLEXTOR PX-L890SA
RAM: 8GB-Kit Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1333 CL9
PSU: 550W Cougar S Series 80+ Silber Modular
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 2343nw 2048x1152

I also tested some Hitman: Absolution and i couldn't play it smoothly on max. settings either. I don't know if my GPU is defect or if it is only a configuration problem :S

Here are also some GPU-Z screenshots:

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/12/11/21/q4.png
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/12/11/21/9cb.png

Maybe they will help.
November 21, 2012 6:43:01 PM

1 hour and still no reply ? ;(
November 21, 2012 6:54:46 PM

Odd. My first thought from looking at the scores would be to make sure you completely removed the beta driver and installed the stable one. I don't know when the drivers were updated by AMD, but if you look at the score it shows them both being unapproved and the driver version number is the same. Could be an oversight or nothing or the answer, not sure.
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November 21, 2012 7:10:49 PM

I heard that the 7970 uses 300W~ on full load, is this true ? if so, maybe the problem lies in the 550W PSU?
November 21, 2012 7:20:31 PM

The 7970 at that resolution will not max out quite a few games (Crysis 2, Metro 2033, BF3), at acceptable framerates (60+) - like Absolution. For BLOPS 2, an upcoming patch fixes a lot of performance issues.
November 21, 2012 7:21:59 PM

Being unapproved is par for the course with futuremark. Drivers often take a couple months before they become approved.
The GPU-Z looks ok, though you should press the ? mark next to bus interface to make sure it jumps to x16 @ 2.0 or 3.0.
November 21, 2012 7:27:39 PM

NV88 said:
The 7970 at that resolution will not max out quite a few games (Crysis 2, Metro 2033, BF3), at acceptable framerates (60+) - like Absolution. For BLOPS 2, an upcoming patch fixes a lot of performance issues.


Would a 1920x1080 LED help ? Or is the PSU holding the GPU back?
November 21, 2012 7:32:09 PM

Beastlyqt said:
Would a 1920x1080 LED help ? Or is the PSU holding the GPU back?


If your system is underpowered by the PSU, that can hold back performance by causing throttling or even shutdowns. As long as you have a proper PSU, then there is no improvements to be had there. This of course assumes that is a problem, which it might be.

Your resolution, will always require more power to render than a 1920x1080p monitor, but it does give you a higher PPI. This will cost you FPS in almost all situations and may require crossfire if you want to keep everything maxed out in visual settings and keep the FPS high.
November 21, 2012 7:36:39 PM

bystander said:
If your system is underpowered by the PSU, that can hold back performance by causing throttling or even shutdowns. As long as you have a proper PSU, then there is no improvements to be had there. This of course assumes that is a problem, which it might be.

Your resolution, will always require more power to render than a 1920x1080p monitor, but it does give you a higher PPI. This will cost you FPS in almost all situations and may require crossfire if you want to keep everything maxed out in visual settings and keep the FPS high.


Mhh, i always thought about getting a new monitor since my current one is like 4 years old. Also, like i said, the 7970 uses like 300-320W on full load. I don't really know where else the problem may be.
November 21, 2012 7:47:47 PM

Your psu is crippling your card.
November 21, 2012 8:03:17 PM

cooldudesubho said:
Your psu is crippling your card.


You really think so ? I don't know if i should just buy a new PSU. It scares me that it will not work after that either.
November 21, 2012 8:10:09 PM

try updating your mobo bios.Alos i never heard of your psu brand.Are they good?
November 22, 2012 11:51:15 AM

cooldudesubho said:
try updating your mobo bios.Alos i never heard of your psu brand.Are they good?


I already tried to update my bios but it didn't work. I tested so many versions but every time i get the message: "image integrity check failed" which means, the version of the update is the wrong one. BUT, the vers. 3509 SHOULD be the most recent update for the standard P8P67 and i already tried this version.
November 22, 2012 4:36:58 PM

Beastlyqt said:
I already tried to update my bios but it didn't work. I tested so many versions but every time i get the message: "image integrity check failed" which means, the version of the update is the wrong one. BUT, the vers. 3509 SHOULD be the most recent update for the standard P8P67 and i already tried this version.


After looking closer at the sensor page of your GPU-Z read out, I notice that the GPU is not being fully utilized at times. It looks as if it is being used less than 50% while the clocks are still looking to be at full clocks. That would suggest the CPU is the one throttling or not keeping up.
November 22, 2012 11:58:43 PM

Reinstall your sound and video drivers, yours look corrupted.
November 23, 2012 1:00:31 PM

NV88 said:
Reinstall your sound and video drivers, yours look corrupted.



I also did a GPU-Z and CPU-Z log, i hope they will help in some way.
November 23, 2012 1:42:18 PM

Are you using the "use application" for anti aliasing or are you trying to use enhance or over ride? A single 7970 will give you 60+ FPS on BO2 at 1920x1080
November 23, 2012 1:44:16 PM

Also, bump your core clock up to atleast 1000, and memory up to 1450. You can do this in the overdrive tab
November 23, 2012 1:49:47 PM

I already tried to OC but i didnt gain any fps maybe just a bit but thats it. What do you mean with "use application" ? I activate AA through the Bo2 menu, if thats what you are asking. I also configured my CCC but didn't helped either.
November 23, 2012 2:16:18 PM

Sorry, i should have clarified...I was talking about in CCC In the gaming tab under 3d application settings, make sure it is set to use application settings...and also make sure that it is set to standard on the filter settings (edge detect will take a pretty heavy toll on fps).

Other notes....

550 watt psu should be enough if your PSU is performing properly. I was running a 750 watt psu on my old cross-fire set up with no problems, even when overclocked pass 1200 on the clock.

Unclick the "morphilogical" filter if you are trying to use the FXAA in game...or don't use the fxaa and use the morphilogical filter (msaa) instead.

Check and make sure that you have all of the C++ distributables installed and also the directx installs.
November 24, 2012 5:08:26 PM

Dude496 said:
Sorry, i should have clarified...I was talking about in CCC In the gaming tab under 3d application settings, make sure it is set to use application settings...and also make sure that it is set to standard on the filter settings (edge detect will take a pretty heavy toll on fps).

Other notes....

550 watt psu should be enough if your PSU is performing properly. I was running a 750 watt psu on my old cross-fire set up with no problems, even when overclocked pass 1200 on the clock.

Unclick the "morphilogical" filter if you are trying to use the FXAA in game...or don't use the fxaa and use the morphilogical filter (msaa) instead.

Check and make sure that you have all of the C++ distributables installed and also the directx installs.


Thanks, i did format my SSD and HDD and installed Win7 + the new amd beta8 driver and it actually helped a bit but i still cant get over 60 fps only getting 40-50 fps. I just don't know what to do, i got told that there is nothing wrong with my 7970 but i cant believe it with the current problems i face. Hope there is someone who knows what to do ;(
November 24, 2012 5:11:59 PM

Like I mentioned before, the GPU is working at full clocks and there is no issue with the bus interface. By the low percentage used by the GPU, I would look at your CPU. Look to see what the CPU-core temps are. Also, even though that PSU is labeled 550W, does not mean it is. Many low quality brands way over rate their PSU's.
November 24, 2012 6:24:40 PM

bystander said:
Like I mentioned before, the GPU is working at full clocks and there is no issue with the bus interface. By the low percentage used by the GPU, I would look at your CPU. Look to see what the CPU-core temps are. Also, even though that PSU is labeled 550W, does not mean it is. Many low quality brands way over rate their PSU's.


The CPU usage and temp is really doing well. The temp always sits at <50 degrees celsius and the usage is doing fine too. Well i really hope it isn't my PSU, isnt there any way to test it without buying a new PSU?
November 24, 2012 7:51:41 PM

What does the usage look like, on cores? Are any of them getting near 100%?
November 24, 2012 11:37:22 PM

I did run a 3DMark 11 test and the only time my CPU hits the 90%+ usage mark is on the physic test and combined test. On the graphics test it stays at 20-35% usage and temp on 30-50°. The gpu gets ofcourse 99-100% usage and the highest temp was 51°, even the clocks are like they should be. I am using the new amd beta8 driver.

Here are the results btw. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5032593
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