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January 5, 2013 7:34:57 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: January 10th, 2013

Budget Range: (e.g.: 300-400) $1,300 before rebate after shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Photo Editing, Video Editing, 3D modeling

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg

Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: Intel CPU

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Using Photoshop and After Effects CS4, Blender, and games like Skyrim, Battlefield 3, Borderlands 2, and Far Cry 3

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Just recently I've discovered the benefits of PC gaming, and I use the Adobe Programs, and Blender for school competitions and Personal Projects.

Any help would be sincerely appreciated! I have no parts currently selected.

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January 5, 2013 10:02:08 PM

If the photo/video editing and 3d modeling are just minor(doesnt use more than 50% of your time on the computer) then get an i5, if it does i would go for an i7 or FX 8350.

i5 is still great for video editing and of that stuff of course so i will be making a build around the i5 and an Nvidia GPU because you may find the Cuda cores helpful during your editing.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($61.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.95 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($366.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1106.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-05 18:58 EST-0500)

leaves you quite a bit of room like upgrading to a i7 or an unlocked CPU to OC(would recommend at least a hyper 212 evo if you do so) this does not leave a whole lot of upgrades to your system like adding inside another GPU or upgrading ram to 32GB but if you would like that, you can upgrade the board into a ATX board instead
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January 6, 2013 2:18:05 AM

Yeah, video editing and 3D modeling won't take up the majority of my time. Mainly the gaming and photo editing.
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January 6, 2013 2:45:04 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($279.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill Line ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1046.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-05 23:41 EST-0500)

I went down to the 660 Ti as the performance is only about 5-8% lower than the 670 and is $90 cheaper. You could always bump it with an OC to close the performance margin. Also added your OS that you required. You stated your monitor resolution so I am assuming you have one already. Downgraded your HDD and SSD as these will be plenty of space. You could always add an additional storage drive later, if need be.
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January 6, 2013 3:31:58 AM

cball1311 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($279.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill Line ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1046.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-05 23:41 EST-0500)

I went down to the 660 Ti as the performance is only about 5-8% lower than the 670 and is $90 cheaper. You could always bump it with an OC to close the performance margin. Also added your OS that you required. You stated your monitor resolution so I am assuming you have one already. Downgraded your HDD and SSD as these will be plenty of space. You could always add an additional storage drive later, if need be.


getting the i5 3570(non-k) is only a bit faster than the i5 3470 and not worth the $20 difference because you will not even see that difference in real time. I prefer the XFX 550W over the Antec because of the quality of the supply but Antec is not that bad either(some are bad though). Even though the XFX supply is not modular, a 550W doesnt have a lot of wires anyways and routing them all to the back will be cake.

Also i would spend some more money on a better quality case like a 300R or 400R if you want to stay on the cheaper side.
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January 6, 2013 3:34:38 AM

Choosing a GPU for accelerated photo/video editing really depends on which software you use ...

OpenCL is getting a lot more support these days, CUDA has been dropped by the Photoshop development team in favor of OpenCL, and AMD video cards generally support OpenCL better than Nvidia does.

Also many of the smaller software companies (like Corel's video creation software) are supporting OpenCL and not CUDA.

However, Adobe CS6 (Premiere Pro, etc except for Photoshop) still only support CUDA for acceleration, although the next version will almost definitely use OpenCL.

So, if I were you, I'd get an AMD 7950, and stretch the budget for an i7 3770. This way you should be good for GPU accelerated apps in the future, and anything that doesn't support openCL at the moment can be taken care of by the i7. As cball said, an FX8300 should also be quite fast for any of the content creation software
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January 6, 2013 3:43:43 AM

Well, here is the route with the i7 and 7950, if you want to go that way. I still think, as the rig is being use primarily for gaming, the i5 would be fine.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Line ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1136.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-06 00:42 EST-0500)
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January 6, 2013 3:49:24 AM

@ukee1593
you mean boulbox ^.^

yea a 7950 is always a great choice but i just like 670 more for it's stability like a lot of the NVIDA cards are better at than AMD.

Not trying to bring AMD down though, they are great but i just see them more for the pure gaming aspect instead of the workstation(not doing professional cards but i would go for AMD for professional cards too unless you are the richest person and can afford those quadro cards) not to mention AMD cards are able to OC a whole lot better than Nvidia counterparts
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January 6, 2013 7:07:21 AM

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January 6, 2013 11:11:12 AM

I decided against an ASRock z77 motherboard because they straight-up lied in their marketing in terms of their PWMs. You might want to alter that part of these builds but they are still fine boards.
Just giving a heads up.



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January 6, 2013 11:49:27 AM

Just build it for Someone.
Hope this would work here..


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($378.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($90.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($20.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1148.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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January 6, 2013 6:14:08 PM

Budge414 said:
I decided against an ASRock z77 motherboard because they straight-up lied in their marketing in terms of their PWMs. You might want to alter that part of these builds but they are still fine boards.
Just giving a heads up.


Please give more info where they have lied, and PWMs aren't even that much of a problem anyways
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January 6, 2013 9:30:34 PM

boulbox said:
Please give more info where they have lied, and PWMs aren't even that much of a problem anyways

I know it really isn't a problem at all. The difference is small and both will do the job. Like I said, they are still fine boards. However, it is a known fact about ASRock's marketing error.

This is taken straight from their website: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Pro4/
(The Extreme4, Extreme4-M, Pro4 and Pro4-M all show this in their feature set.)

"Digi Power

More Precise, More Efficient

By adopting digital pulse-width modulation (PWM), the ASRock motherboard can provide CPU Vcore voltage more efficiently and smoothly. Compared to analog PWM, digital PWM can optimize the CPU power solution and provide a proper and stable Vcore for the processor."


This video is a detailed run-through of PWMs and the difference between analog and digital made by the creator of SinHardware.com.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Viitg4Yoy2Y
It is quite long (Skip to 29:33) but he himself calls ASRock 'Liars'

The bottom of this page shows which manufacturers use what:
http://sinhardware.com/index.php/vrm-articles/101-digit...

Here's a Reddit thread on 'Boards and their VRM components':
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/10s3hw/boards...

The first two comments state this:

[–]frader12 39 points 3 months ago
"I think it's worth noting that the pretty popular Asrock Extreme4 board uses some of the cheapest MOSFETs. Just something to keep in mind."

[–]nubbinator 38 points 3 months ago*
"Not only that, but they're analog VRMs, not digital like ASRock's specs claim.
It's also worth noting the overall quality of some of the other budget boards. While not that expensive, the Biostar TZ77XE4, Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, and MSI Z77A-GD55 use high quality components that are good for overclocking and popular budget boards like the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 and Asus P8Z77-V LX are a little lower build quality for overclocking."


Just for the record I'm in no position to give opinions on what is better or worse, nor am I trying to force a decision, I have not been doing this long enough. I myself am currently in the process of building my own desktop (my first) and also have a $1300 budget. I am just forwarding what I have found over my last weeks worth of research to save him some trouble. It was a real shame for me as I was really keen on getting a Z77 Extreme4-M. They look great, have really nice software features and perform very well for budget boards.
In the end my conclusion was now that digital PWM boards aren't as expensive, and have improved on the cons side (mainly speed), why not if they are more efficient and reliable?
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January 6, 2013 9:47:42 PM

you arent overclocking, making the quality of the mosfets and all that jazz almost irrelevant. any z77 board will overclock up to 4.2ghz with ease. they differentiate themselves from each other after the 4.8ghz mark, which you wont hit in most chips

anyways this is what i would get
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wfC1

+ this xeon e3 1230v2. almost i7 3770 performance, but without graphics and at a i5 price. works in consumer boards no problem
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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