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GTX 680 FTW 4gb to much overkill?

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November 22, 2012 1:53:31 AM

Got a nice paycheck and its time to upgrade, is the EVGA GeForce GTX 680 FTW 4096MB too much overkill? I play games like WoW mainly and a few Cod Games D3 etc, you know, the usual but i also would like to have a GPU that could last a Good while(atleast 12-18 months) Im a very competitive gamer so I was wondering if this is the one for me. Price doesn't matter I take quality over quantity.

Specs:
i7 2600
hp factory Mobo
Hp factory Ram
Hp Factory Power Supply
Coolermaster haf 922 2012 edition
1tb HDD 7200 RPM
Gtx 550ti


Also, I would like to upgrade the HB items(prefer the Mobo and the PSU) if you have any recommendations I would love to hear, budget for those is around $400
November 22, 2012 2:03:38 AM

Any 680 at the current pricing is overpriced. I would not suggest it even if money wasn't an issue as your basically paying ~$100 for a 5% increase in performance from the 670.

I would get a z68 or z77 motherboard, the ones in the $110~$160 range would be fine.

PSU will depend on whether or not you will add a 2nd GPU in the future for SLI/CF. A single 670/680 system would only need 500-550w max, while a 2-way SLI would need a 750w unit.
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November 22, 2012 2:07:37 AM

680 is definitely over kill. A gtx 260 still can play diablo, cod, D3 easily at medium to max settings with few AA.
Corsair is having a 430 Watt builder series for like $16.99 on newegg.
And mobo just get the sabertooth. Trust me, this will save you money down the road.
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November 22, 2012 2:09:51 AM

I want to do SLI, So go 670 over 680?

Um Yea, i dont know anything about mobo's ):

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November 22, 2012 2:11:24 AM

I also forgot to mention, I plan to buy AC3 real soon and BF4 when it comes out
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November 22, 2012 2:12:46 AM

You want to do SLI because you just want a "SLI" in your case? Or you want SLI because you want that tiny 8-10% performance improvement?

Definitely SLI 680 if you do it because of either reason.

People who do SLI are the one who plays across 3-6 screens using the AMD or Nvidia stereocopic.

And that 8-10% performance improvement...beat me.
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November 22, 2012 2:23:31 AM

Well, if you got a good paycheck, go ahead to get the 680. But i recommend you just getting a normal 2gb card. you would not need such a high end gpu just to play your games. but i would still recommend a gtx 680.

But if you got a hp computer, how did you get a haf922? or did u manually upgrade it yourself?

My recommendation would be to get a asus z68 board. I would recommend the p8z68vle. it can be overclocked to 4.4ghz on your i7. asus has ledgendary reliability.

You could reuse the ram. But if you really want new ram, just get the cheapest 8gb ddr3 1600 kit you can get around.

For a power supply, get a branded 80 plus 750watt power supply for the job. it would be future proof.

If you would ask me, i would get the gtx 670.
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November 22, 2012 2:24:13 AM

meh, so someone recomend me a graphics card dont care price, just want someone that will last me a good while
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November 22, 2012 2:26:42 AM

thatsmynamedude, good lord. That was amazing. So link me some stuff :D  i manually upgraded my case because my computer is on nearly 24/7 so i had to get something with a little more airflow.
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November 22, 2012 2:27:44 AM

^The performance improvement is not 8-10%.




That's like a ~90% improvement.

@Keyvaniath - Get 2-way 670s still.
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November 22, 2012 2:33:45 AM

Keyvaniath said:
meh, so someone recomend me a graphics card dont care price, just want someone that will last me a good while

ok
ASUS GTX670-DC2T-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB $429.99
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November 22, 2012 2:45:52 AM

ASUS GTX670-DC2T-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB $429.99
or should i get
EVGA 04G-P4-3673-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW+ 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $449.99 wtf is the difference, seems like i get so much more for 20 bucks more
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November 22, 2012 2:58:21 AM

Keyvaniath said:
ASUS GTX670-DC2T-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB $429.99
or should i get
EVGA 04G-P4-3673-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW+ 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $449.99 wtf is the difference, seems like i get so much more for 20 bucks more

Do Graphics Cards Need 4 GB of Memory? - EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4 GB Superclocked+ Review. Page 11
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Conclusion
Increasing the amount of memory on board of GeForce GTX 670 and GTX 680 cards translates to obvious performance benefits only in specific unique cases, such as triple-monitor set-ups with 3240x1920 resolution and enabled antialiasing. Metro 2033: The Last Refuge and Sniper Elite V2 are the only games that need more than the standard 2 GB of graphics memory, but the contemporary High-End graphics cards are anyway too slow in these games even with 4 GB of video memory. In the rest of our games we could hardly see any difference between GeForce GTX 670s with 2 and 4 GB of memory in 3240x1920 and no difference at all in 2560x1440. So, purchasing a 4GB card wouldn't be worth the investment unless you've got a triple-monitor configuration.


with that said, there really isn't that much more you are getting. but is still only $20 but IMO the DC TOP performs extremely well - but i cannot find a head to head review against the FTW . . .
ASUS GTX 670 DirectCU II TOP Graphics Card Review
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November 22, 2012 4:48:00 AM

FTW uses reference cooling. That'll give you warmer temps on high load and I don't find it any good in the long run.

Get the ASUS, or if you want another suggestion - Gigabyte Windforce X3.
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November 22, 2012 4:56:11 AM

If you want the best get a 690 and forget about SLI'ing 2 cards. That will last a long while. I went with a 680 only for price reasons. As for the 670, I don't buy gimped cards anymore.
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November 22, 2012 5:00:41 AM

NV88 said:
If you want the best get a 690 and forget about SLI'ing 2 cards. That will last a long while. I went with a 680 only for price reasons. As for the 670, I don't buy gimped cards anymore.

Im so confused...
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November 22, 2012 5:01:14 AM

How is the 670 "gimped"?
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November 22, 2012 5:06:57 AM

regardless either way 680 sweet 670 sweet.everyone is forgetting to tell this guy.
1.if you plan on sli you wont want to do it on the hp.just get the card worry about that later.
2.getting the card will require a better power supply than the one you posses.
my suggestion is you wont be using 4 gigs any time soon buy a better power supply and the card install and play for now.you will be satisfied with the performance as is.
later consider building a whole pc using parts from existing one.
(quick edit) 670 is plenty to play any game around now
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November 22, 2012 5:23:04 AM

Keyvaniath said:
thatsmynamedude, good lord. That was amazing. So link me some stuff :D  i manually upgraded my case because my computer is on nearly 24/7 so i had to get something with a little more airflow.



Sure, no problem. Glad I could help.


Firstly, for the ram, reuse it or get the cheapest ddr3 1600 8gb kit you could find.

As I said, power supply you should get a 80 plus psu 750watt for future expansion. You will hate yourself for not getting enough power if you want to do sli in the future.

For the motherboards, I would recommend the asus lineup of P8 series motherboards. Ledgendary reliability excellent drivers. Never heard of any issue with them. Go with either the Z68, Z75, or Z77 chipset. If you do not want to overclock or want to save some cash on motherboards, you could always go for the non-overclockable H77 which was what I chose.

A z68 V LE motherboard from asus will have no problem hitting 4.4ghz on the overclock. But your CPU is not a K series one. Either way, I would recommend the Z68 V LE, Z77 V LK or higher, depending on your budget.

For graphics card, I would go for a high end single card solution. Either a 7950 or a gtx 670 or higher. For your games, a 7950 would be very very cheap and will perform like a champ. Therefore, I would recommend a non reference cooler on that and overclock it.

To sum it up, you will need a new gpu, psu and motherboard. Maybe not so much on the motherboard as it can hold a i7 2600. I think it would be a H series motherboard though. Anyways, maybe you dont need a new motherboard. Check if the motherboard has a pcie 16x slot which it should.

Ok, get a new gpu and a new psu. that would be my recommendation. As usual, for psu, I would get corsair. But I found out this psu company called FSP group. They have great PSUs. maybe you might want to check them out.

For the GPU, if you insist on a gtx 680, just get the 2gb one. I highly unrecommend getting cards like FTW from evga. Only cards I recommend from EVGA is their hydro copper and stock cards. The rest is just a cheap gimmick and a waste of money. Rather go for msi or asus. For your case, a gtx 670 or a 7950 would be excellent.

Good luck on your choice
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November 22, 2012 5:32:51 AM
November 22, 2012 5:43:18 AM

^+1 to everything he said in both posts. Though you don't really have to limit yourself with the ASUS brand, they tend to overprice their boards. Gigabyte and ASRock are both good alternatives.

Also, you can't actually get an H77 board if you're going to SLI/Crossfire, it has no "real" support for it. The chipset's PCI lanes don't have enough bandwidth to support it.

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November 22, 2012 5:46:11 AM

excella1221 said:
^+1 to everything he said in both posts. Though you don't really have to limit yourself with the ASUS brand, they tend to overprice their boards. Gigabyte and ASRock are both good alternatives.

Also, you can't actually get an H77 board if you're going to SLI/Crossfire, it has no "real" support for it. The chipset's PCI lanes don't have enough bandwidth to support it.


Yes. I know H77 boards cant do sli/ crossfire. And I stuck with asus as i have never heard any complains about their boards. I heard poor driver supports with msi board, asrock is known to be a budget brand so I dont expect them to have anything high end. gigabyte boards are ok, but i think asus will be good
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November 22, 2012 6:04:11 AM

If you want top of the line mid high end mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/gigabyte_z77x_ud5h... <--- review of that motherboard w/benchmarks

http://www.techspot.com/review/521-intel-z77-motherboar... <--- review w/benchmarks

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2012/05/0... <--- review w/benchmarks


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November 22, 2012 7:09:58 AM

wow! so the OP is
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I play games like WoW mainly and a few Cod Games D3 etc


and people are talking about 670 SLI?

totally crazy man, who has the bong?

quit bogarting that pass it over here . . .
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November 22, 2012 7:14:57 AM

Anonymous said:
wow! so the OP is
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I play games like WoW mainly and a few Cod Games D3 etc


and people are talking about 670 SLI?

totally crazy man, who has the bong?

quit bogarting that pass it over here . . .

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November 22, 2012 7:37:35 AM

Just get a custom cooled, "rightly" priced GTX 670, you will not regret
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November 22, 2012 8:07:21 AM

Keyvaniath said:
Got a nice paycheck and its time to upgrade, is the EVGA GeForce GTX 680 FTW 4096MB too much overkill? I play games like WoW mainly and a few Cod Games D3 etc, you know, the usual but i also would like to have a GPU that could last a Good while(atleast 12-18 months) Im a very competitive gamer so I was wondering if this is the one for me. Price doesn't matter I take quality over quantity.

Specs:
i7 2600
hp factory Mobo
Hp factory Ram
Hp Factory Power Supply
Coolermaster haf 922 2012 edition
1tb HDD 7200 RPM
Gtx 550ti


Also, I would like to upgrade the HB items(prefer the Mobo and the PSU) if you have any recommendations I would love to hear, budget for those is around $400


Best advice, "do some research". A good comp is an investment large or small. If it does not do what you want, when you want it to then you are not going to feel like it was a good investment and you will be disappointed. You say quality over quantity ditch the items labeled HP (IMO). Your pc is only as good as its weakest link. There are a whole range of mobo's, Ram, and Power supplies out there that you can get with better quality with in the 400 price range for all 3 of those items. Remember to choose a power supply that rates 20 to 40% higher than your total power consumption. example your system uses under heavy load 650 watts you should get a 850-900 watt power supply. When you make your power supply work to hard it runs less efficient witch sucks more power from the wall, creates more heat, and reduces the life of it to. Gfx card or cards dont listen to squirrelonfire SLI/CF will get you way more than 8-10% some games SLI/CF can get you close to double the FPS than you would get with a single card. but on a single 60hz monitor it might be overkill. SLI/CF rocks a 120hz monitor you can actually get some very smooth game play when you are getting over 60fps and your monitor can show it. I have a set of GTX 580's in SLI with a Asus 120hz 27 inch monitor and having games hit 90-120fps hands down is just amazing and smooth. But as I said before best advice, "do some research". A computer is an investment large or small. If it does not do what you want you will not be happy. (60hz monitor get a single gtx 670, if your going to get a 120hz monitor get 2 gtx 660 ti's or 670's if ya got the bucks)
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November 22, 2012 1:23:20 PM

ThatsMyNameDude said:
Yes. I know H77 boards cant do sli/ crossfire. And I stuck with asus as i have never heard any complains about their boards. I heard poor driver supports with msi board, asrock is known to be a budget brand so I dont expect them to have anything high end. gigabyte boards are ok, but i think asus will be good

I've seen complaints towards all brands. They're usually just hit and miss for the Top 3 manufacturers(ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock). Though ASUS and Gigabyte have been in the business longer and they have a bigger reputation. ASRock pricing is cheaper than ASUS and Gigabyte, yes, if that's what you meant. That doesn't necessarily mean it's in any way relatively inferior though; their boards actually are feature-packed, most you can only find from higher end boards from other brands. :) 
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November 22, 2012 3:42:20 PM

Best answer selected by Keyvaniath.
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November 22, 2012 3:49:38 PM

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