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January 8, 2013 11:11:19 AM

okay so here it is

i have a computer already but i wanna upgrade it so it plays all the new games on full graphics or so

current specs are

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz
4GB ram DDR2
nVidia Geforce 210
psu 450w

what should i upgrade to make a way faster PC ? i am planning of upgrading PSU to 550w and my GeForce 210 to GTX650 Ti
Should i upgrade my 2 Duo to 2 Quad? my uncle says that Duo CPUs are better for gaming.. but i have my doubts and i want your opinion
should i choose GTX650 Ti and not upgrade my CPU ? will my current CPU work good with the GTX650 ti? or it's too powerful for my cpu? (i mean in gaming performance, if my GPU can handle full graphics and resolution will my CPU lag or..?)

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January 8, 2013 11:43:02 AM

If you really can´t upgrade your entire system now you could upgrade your psu and gpu like you´re saying until you get a good processor like an i5 ivy or sandy, that´s the best bet.

I´m telling you this because you want to play all the new games on full and that will depend on your resolution also and maybe that card won´t handle your expectations.
January 8, 2013 11:49:02 AM

my G31M-ES2L motherboard does not support Core i3 i5 i7 CPUs...

what about Core 2 Quad Q9500?
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January 8, 2013 11:56:51 AM

As i told you if you can´t buy a new mobo with an i5 (which will be twice as better for gaming than that c2q) go with it and change the psu and gpu like you´re planning to.

The c2q will be good for gaming and I think will handle that Gtx 650 ti but you won´t play all the new games on full graphics that will depend on your res. also.
January 8, 2013 12:00:25 PM

okay i could buy a new mobo and an i5 but then i should buy new ram as well coz the one i have now is DDR2 and the new mobo won't support it i guess... just trying to make the best gaming PC with the less money
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January 8, 2013 12:03:11 PM

Then change the psu and the gpu, get the q9500 and when haswell arrives or between your possibilities you could upgrade in the future.

Tell us your budget and we can help you.
January 8, 2013 12:16:27 PM

View in English Button disappeared somehow.. thought it's still there but i couldn't edit my post ^
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January 8, 2013 12:18:56 PM

I got 2 questions for you
1. what resolution you´ll be gaming at?
2. You really want to spend 220 in that c2q? I mean, try to wait and get more money to make a good upgrade, an i5 2500k is in the same price, it isn´t worth.
January 8, 2013 12:23:43 PM

maximum resolution of 1366x768 but i wouldn't mind if it's down to 1280x768

and i cannot make money easily.. so i cannot afford new ram gpu psu mobo and cpu. i guess it's worth buying that c2q if i'll never need to upgrade my PC again for 3-4 years or more

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January 8, 2013 12:33:47 PM

Get the gpu first, tell me the brand of your current PSU. Save those 220 for c2q and wait until you get enough to spend in a mb and new cpu that´s the best choice, I will even tell you to get an hd 7850 1Gb not 2, 2 Gb is overkill for your resolution.

Graphic power is more important than cpu, try to get a good cpu between hd 7800, gtx 660 save the money for that c2q and upgrade later on when you can, spending that now is not worth it.


January 8, 2013 12:39:51 PM


current psu ^ 450w

well i guess i won't upgrade my PC at all later. i already need 500 euros for the new psu, gpu and cpu. it's already too much for me
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January 8, 2013 12:47:32 PM

Keep the e8500 just change the psu and the gpu, save the other for later if you can´t get the hd 7850 get the 650 ti but 1GB not 2, with that in mind try to make upgrades slow, you can buy 8 gb ddr3 for 30$ and there are cheap boards for 70$ even a i3 3220 will be an upgrade for the c2d and that´s 120$ Total:220$.

You can get a cheaper Psu like a cx 430 for 45$, that will handle a hd 7850 with ease of course a gtx 650 ti, thats 265$ without the card.
January 8, 2013 12:50:28 PM

too bad i am a nVidia fan.. i would never buy an AMD
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January 8, 2013 12:55:19 PM

jeje that is not a problem the gtx 660 is the equivalent, the point is that you can upgrade at least the gpu and psu, upgrade the other stuffs later, i did the same with my build and waiting to keep upgrading at least 1 thing at a time.
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January 8, 2013 12:58:41 PM

go with the seasonic rigth away, in fact is one of my favorites psu at that price range.

Enough for even a gtx 670.
January 8, 2013 1:03:14 PM

Have you considered buying a discount pre-built system?
Given the number of upgrades you'd need, that might be a much better option with better performance gains.

I know you don't like AMD, but they do make quality products--just not as high-end or expensive as Intel (which only matters if you're going all out).

Something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I... would suit you pretty well at a decent price point.
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January 8, 2013 1:09:12 PM

it´s true but that apu won´t bring him much power talking about gaming.
January 8, 2013 3:10:55 PM

i don't wanna buy PC parts like the link you guys sent. i wanna keep my motherboard and ram for now :s i don't use this ram for a long time so i wanna keep it
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January 8, 2013 3:27:49 PM

So what you´re going to do?
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January 8, 2013 3:57:17 PM

yes, for the price I´ll go with the seasonic, that will do and later you can think in upgrade the cpu, so you can keep playing games with good details, the next gen is possible this year.
January 8, 2013 4:00:33 PM

okay nice. so i'll upgrade to the ones i post above. then buy the Q9500? since i cannot afford a 2 Extreme and i5 is not supported
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January 8, 2013 4:01:15 PM



That sounds like the best plan for you right now... You might want to consider stepping up to the gtx 660 though, but either will do... The 660 will just last you longer and give you more options down the road ( 660 can be sli'd the 650 ti can not).
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January 8, 2013 4:02:47 PM

JohnDoVaS12345 said:
okay nice. so i'll upgrade to the ones i post above. then buy the Q9500? since i cannot afford a 2 Extreme and i5 is not supported


Don't buy a Q9500 atleast not for the price you have a link for... It would be about the same price to get a new mobo + an ivy bridge i3 and that would give you better performance in games by a good amount.
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January 8, 2013 4:06:13 PM

Derza10 said:
Don't buy a Q9500 atleast not for the price you have a link for... It would be about the same price to get a new mobo + an ivy bridge i3 and that would give you better performance in games by a good amount.


That´s what I ´m talking about.
January 8, 2013 4:07:22 PM

http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.513586

yeah seems like the GTX660 is way better but still.. cannot afford it. so my plan is to buy the 650 ti and psu... and fine i won't buy a Q9500 but.. that means my E8500 will not do good in games. then i won't buy a new mobo coz i wanna keep my ram. it was an expensive one.

well what does more? i mean if i have a GTX 650 ti and a E8500 will i be able to play Assassin's Creed 3 on what graphics for example? do i need a stronger CPU or GPU ?
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January 8, 2013 4:10:19 PM

Get the PSU + graphics card... Try it out if its unplayable then you can think about CPU upgrade. a 650 ti will be enough graphics power at your resolution, the only issue would be the CPU. So try it out and see how it performs, I mean you need the graphics card either way.
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January 8, 2013 4:10:24 PM

At that res. the cpu could be the bottlenecking but you will play the game fine better than a console could.
January 8, 2013 4:13:22 PM

okay thanks guys :)  i will do as you say
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January 8, 2013 4:13:24 PM

JohnDoVaS12345 said:
http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.513586

yeah seems like the GTX660 is way better but still.. cannot afford it. so my plan is to buy the 650 ti and psu... and fine i won't buy a Q9500 but.. that means my E8500 will not do good in games. then i won't buy a new mobo coz i wanna keep my ram. it was an expensive one.

well what does more? i mean if i have a GTX 650 ti and a E8500 will i be able to play Assassin's Creed 3 on what graphics for example? do i need a stronger CPU or GPU ?


The link you provide was the 660 ti this is the 660

http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.513594
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January 8, 2013 4:14:16 PM

JohnDoVaS12345 said:
http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.513586

yeah seems like the GTX660 is way better but still.. cannot afford it. so my plan is to buy the 650 ti and psu... and fine i won't buy a Q9500 but.. that means my E8500 will not do good in games. then i won't buy a new mobo coz i wanna keep my ram. it was an expensive one.

well what does more? i mean if i have a GTX 650 ti and a E8500 will i be able to play Assassin's Creed 3 on what graphics for example? do i need a stronger CPU or GPU ?


Just realized you linked the 660 Ti... I was talking about the 660... Look into the 660 non ti version.
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January 8, 2013 4:14:53 PM

Lol we are posting the same things... Your post was not up when i posted mine.

Yea so go with the GTX 660 + that PSU for now if it is within budget.
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January 8, 2013 4:16:21 PM

Derza10 said:
Lol we are posting the same things... Your post was not up when i posted mine.


no problem :p 
January 8, 2013 4:16:57 PM

279.50 €

but could you guys tell me what is the difference between DC2-2GD5 and DC2T-2GD5 ?


PS: still cannot afford it lol
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January 8, 2013 4:18:22 PM

JohnDoVaS12345 said:
279.50 €

but could you guys tell me what is the difference between DC2-2GD5 and DC2T-2GD5 ?


PS: still cannot afford it lol


Yea that VAT tax is a bitch..

The DC2T is overclocked version while the DC2 is stock clocks... Get the cheaper of the 2... You can overclock the card on your own other than the overclock the 2 cards will be exactly the same.
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January 8, 2013 4:22:57 PM

With the 650 ti you will do don´t worry
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January 8, 2013 4:24:07 PM

pit_1209 said:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_65...

660 is more than 40% better overall


Yea the 660 is the card to get... but atleast from the site he has been using the price difference is huge, maybe he can find it somewhere else for cheaper... I mean in the US the 650 Ti is around $150-180 while the 660 is in the $200-230 range.. for him its like $160 vs $260.
January 8, 2013 4:26:33 PM

searched on amazon as well. it's 200 Dollars that means 168 Euros...
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January 8, 2013 4:28:03 PM

maybe in newegg like the psu
January 8, 2013 4:28:50 PM

a friend just told me that amazon does not send products to greece -.-

does newegg?
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January 8, 2013 4:31:27 PM

JohnDoVaS12345 said:
a friend just told me that amazon does not send products to greece -.-

does newegg?


I don't believe they do...but i could be wrong.
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January 8, 2013 4:32:26 PM

there isn´t something like a courier in your country??
January 8, 2013 4:33:46 PM

yeah we have courier services
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January 8, 2013 4:37:13 PM

that´s it, I live in dominican republic and always use couriers to buy from amazon.
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January 8, 2013 4:45:55 PM

JohnDoVaS12345 said:
now i am thinking of this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

if i compare the prices with the GTX 650 Ti this one wins.

GTX 660 - 182 Euros
GTX 650 Ti - 160 Euros


yeah, that was the one I linked to you and comes with a game
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