Making a Good Gaming PC

[JohnDoVaS12345]

okay so here it is

i have a computer already but i wanna upgrade it so it plays all the new games on full graphics or so

current specs are

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz
4GB ram DDR2
nVidia Geforce 210
psu 450w

what should i upgrade to make a way faster PC ? i am planning of upgrading PSU to 550w and my GeForce 210 to GTX650 Ti
Should i upgrade my 2 Duo to 2 Quad? my uncle says that Duo CPUs are better for gaming.. but i have my doubts and i want your opinion
should i choose GTX650 Ti and not upgrade my CPU ? will my current CPU work good with the GTX650 ti? or it's too powerful for my cpu? (i mean in gaming performance, if my GPU can handle full graphics and resolution will my CPU lag or..?)

 

[pit_1209]

If you really can´t upgrade your entire system now you could upgrade your psu and gpu like you´re saying until you get a good processor like an i5 ivy or sandy, that´s the best bet.

I´m telling you this because you want to play all the new games on full and that will depend on your resolution also and maybe that card won´t handle your expectations.

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

my G31M-ES2L motherboard does not support Core i3 i5 i7 CPUs...

what about Core 2 Quad Q9500?

 

[pit_1209]

As i told you if you can´t buy a new mobo with an i5 (which will be twice as better for gaming than that c2q) go with it and change the psu and gpu like you´re planning to.

The c2q will be good for gaming and I think will handle that Gtx 650 ti but you won´t play all the new games on full graphics that will depend on your res. also.

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

okay i could buy a new mobo and an i5 but then i should buy new ram as well coz the one i have now is DDR2 and the new mobo won't support it i guess... just trying to make the best gaming PC with the less money

 

[pit_1209]

Then change the psu and the gpu, get the q9500 and when haswell arrives or between your possibilities you could upgrade in the future.

Tell us your budget and we can help you.

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

okay that's what i found

GTX650 Ti 2GB - 185 Euros http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.516471
CORSAIR ENTHUSIAST SERIES TX550M 550W PSU 80+ BRONZE CERTIFIED - 108 Euros http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.549982
Q9500 - http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-2-83GHz-1333MHz-LGA775/dp/B0046T2X7E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1357654174&sr=8-2&keywords=intel+core+2+quad+Q9500

Note: In the greek site press View In English on top right corner and you should be able to read it

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

View in English Button disappeared somehow.. thought it's still there but i couldn't edit my post ^

 

[pit_1209]

I got 2 questions for you
1. what resolution you´ll be gaming at?
2. You really want to spend 220 in that c2q? I mean, try to wait and get more money to make a good upgrade, an i5 2500k is in the same price, it isn´t worth.

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

maximum resolution of 1366x768 but i wouldn't mind if it's down to 1280x768

and i cannot make money easily.. so i cannot afford new ram gpu psu mobo and cpu. i guess it's worth buying that c2q if i'll never need to upgrade my PC again for 3-4 years or more

 

[pit_1209]

Get the gpu first, tell me the brand of your current PSU. Save those 220 for c2q and wait until you get enough to spend in a mb and new cpu that´s the best choice, I will even tell you to get an hd 7850 1Gb not 2, 2 Gb is overkill for your resolution.

Graphic power is more important than cpu, try to get a good cpu between hd 7800, gtx 660 save the money for that c2q and upgrade later on when you can, spending that now is not worth it.

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

current psu ^ 450w

well i guess i won't upgrade my PC at all later. i already need 500 euros for the new psu, gpu and cpu. it's already too much for me

 

[pit_1209]

Keep the e8500 just change the psu and the gpu, save the other for later if you can´t get the hd 7850 get the 650 ti but 1GB not 2, with that in mind try to make upgrades slow, you can buy 8 gb ddr3 for 30$ and there are cheap boards for 70$ even a i3 3220 will be an upgrade for the c2d and that´s 120$ Total:220$.

You can get a cheaper Psu like a cx 430 for 45$, that will handle a hd 7850 with ease of course a gtx 650 ti, thats 265$ without the card.

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

too bad i am a nVidia fan.. i would never buy an AMD

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.513595 so i should buy this one?

take a look at those this topic too. i made it and the guy suggested these psus

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/386696-15-g31m-es2l-supports-650ti#t2905733


www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182131
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094

which should i choose?

 

[pit_1209]

jeje that is not a problem the gtx 660 is the equivalent, the point is that you can upgrade at least the gpu and psu, upgrade the other stuffs later, i did the same with my build and waiting to keep upgrading at least 1 thing at a time.

 

[pit_1209]

go with the seasonic rigth away, in fact is one of my favorites psu at that price range.

Enough for even a gtx 670.

 

[aramisathei]

Have you considered buying a discount pre-built system?
Given the number of upgrades you'd need, that might be a much better option with better performance gains.

I know you don't like AMD, but they do make quality products--just not as high-end or expensive as Intel (which only matters if you're going all out).

Something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1171049 would suit you pretty well at a decent price point.

 

[pit_1209]

it´s true but that apu won´t bring him much power talking about gaming.

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

i don't wanna buy PC parts like the link you guys sent. i wanna keep my motherboard and ram for now :s i don't use this ram for a long time so i wanna keep it

 

[pit_1209]

So what you´re going to do?

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

gonna buy those


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094 or http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.549982


and http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.513595

and keep my 2 Duo ?

 

[pit_1209]

yes, for the price I´ll go with the seasonic, that will do and later you can think in upgrade the cpu, so you can keep playing games with good details, the next gen is possible this year.

 

[JohnDoVaS12345]

okay nice. so i'll upgrade to the ones i post above. then buy the Q9500? since i cannot afford a 2 Extreme and i5 is not supported

 

[Derza10]

gonna buy those


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094 or http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.549982


and http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.513595

and keep my 2 Duo ?

That sounds like the best plan for you right now... You might want to consider stepping up to the gtx 660 though, but either will do... The 660 will just last you longer and give you more options down the road ( 660 can be sli'd the 650 ti can not).