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January 8, 2013 1:32:34 PM

I decided to switch to PC, because obviously laptop isn't enough for gaming. I put this build together and now I need your advice, if there is something wrong with it or it is possible to save some money with something.
I would like to play new games on high settings, the monitor I have chosen is 1920x1080. Also I am going to OC it and later I will add another video card.

Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600
Video card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB
Storage:
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM
SSD: Sandisk 128GB 2.5"
PSU: Corsair TX650 V2 80 PLUS Bronze
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS-I Snow Edition
Optical drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer
OS: Windows 8 Full 64-bit

Cost: 1235$/770£
Also as I live in Estonia, so some of the parts you might suggest, might not be available for me, I have chosen those parts, because they are available in my country.

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January 8, 2013 1:37:47 PM

The rig is fairly good for the most part, two small things.

If your just gaming you don't need 16GB of RAM. 8GB is plenty. Also if possible see if you can get a low profile kit like the G.Skill Ares, G.Skill Sniper or Vengeance Low Profile. That way there wont potentially be issues between the cooler and RAM.
For dual Crossfire/SLI capability you will have to get the 750W version of that supply, the TX750. The 650W version doesnt have enough connectors to hold another card.

Otherwise your set.
January 8, 2013 1:45:28 PM

manofchalk said:
The rig is fairly good for the most part, two small things.

If your just gaming you don't need 16GB of RAM. 8GB is plenty. Also if possible see if you can get a low profile kit like the G.Skill Ares, G.Skill Sniper or Vengeance Low Profile. That way there wont potentially be issues between the cooler and RAM.
For dual Crossfire/SLI capability you will have to get the 750W version of that supply, the TX750. The 650W version doesnt have enough connectors to hold another card.

Otherwise your set.

I noticed in your rig you have a 7870.. What kinda fps do you get in games like crysis2/bf3? Just kinda curious.


Also, for this build, I pretty much agree with what you said.
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January 8, 2013 2:07:41 PM

To add to what manofchalk said... You can move the fan on the Hyper 212 up on the heatsync if you have clearance issues with the memory, but I would agree with going with low profile modules up front. Reduce the latency to CL8 if your bugets allows, but standard DDR3-1600 CL9 are fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
January 8, 2013 2:22:02 PM

manofchalk said:
The rig is fairly good for the most part, two small things.

If your just gaming you don't need 16GB of RAM. 8GB is plenty. Also if possible see if you can get a low profile kit like the G.Skill Ares, G.Skill Sniper or Vengeance Low Profile. That way there wont potentially be issues between the cooler and RAM.
For dual Crossfire/SLI capability you will have to get the 750W version of that supply, the TX750. The 650W version doesnt have enough connectors to hold another card.

Otherwise your set.


I now put the 750W PSU on the list Corsair Builder 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified
And also the low profile RAM, it was hard to do it, because it seems there isn't much of a choice when you search for DDR3 1600Mhz, would be in the price range, low profile, matches with the rest of the colors and would be from trusted sites.
Thank you for your advice.
January 8, 2013 2:28:37 PM

sadams04 said:
To add to what manofchalk said... You can move the fan on the Hyper 212 up on the heatsync if you have clearance issues with the memory, but I would agree with going with low profile modules up front. Reduce the latency to CL8 if your bugets allows, but standard DDR3-1600 CL9 are fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I already chose the RAM, Corsair 16 GB (2x8GB) still, but just low profile and in black and it's latency was CL11.
January 8, 2013 2:32:42 PM

Get 8 gigs of cl9 > 16 gig of cl11


cl11 is really really bad xc
January 8, 2013 2:36:14 PM

so the smaller latency, the better or what? I don't understand
January 8, 2013 2:37:07 PM

2x8GB (8GB modules) is hard(er) to get in lower latency modules. It can be done, but is expensive. 4x4GB or 2x4GB (4GB modules) are more readily available. DDR3-1600 CL9 is "standard" and what you want to aim for. Check out the GSKILL Ares series if you haven't already purchased.
January 8, 2013 2:38:36 PM

It doesn't really matter - real-world performance differences are minimal - the point is mostly that 16 GB isn't necessary for gaming.
January 8, 2013 2:40:06 PM

Veteran007 said:
so the smaller latency, the better or what? I don't understand


Yes... with respect to the speed.

DDR3-1333 CL8 is roughly the same speed as DDR3-1600 CL9 which is roughly the same speed at DDR3-1866 CL10. These would be what I would call the "baseline". Going up in speed is fine as long as the latency levels don't jump..
January 8, 2013 2:48:10 PM

So what is the best?
Corsair DDR3 1600MHz 16GB 2x8GB 240 DIMM Unbuffered 11-11-11-30 1.5V XMS3 it has CL11
Crucial DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz 8GB CL10 (10-10-10-28) Ballistix Sport
Corsair DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz 4GB CL9 (9-9-9-24) Vengeance LP
and what do the numbers in the brackets mean?
January 8, 2013 4:36:18 PM

And final question, will the GTX 660 will be enough at first for high settings during playing? and when I want to record my gameplay?
January 8, 2013 4:59:08 PM

I'd say it's borderline. It won't be averaging 60 FPS but it'll be playable.
January 8, 2013 6:25:49 PM

So is the 680 better or is it sensible to buy 670 instead, or should I do 660 SLI right away?
January 8, 2013 11:43:22 PM

Zed_Spooge said:
I noticed in your rig you have a 7870.. What kinda fps do you get in games like crysis2/bf3? Just kinda curious.


Very respectable frames is the answer.
MY 7870 is clocked to 1150Mhz on the core and 1375Mhz on the memory (effective 5500Mhz).

Cant say for BF3 since I dont have it, but I do have Crysis 2.
Settings are Ultra on everything, 1920x1080, DX11 and High res packs installed.
Get an average of ~45FPS even during firefights. Occasional dip to ~30 if something big happens, say if a freeway collapses and lots of dust is thrown up.
Far Cry 3 is set to the "Optimal" preset with 2x AA, get an average of 50FPS with occasional dips to 45 in firefights and such.
Batman: Arkham Asylum is the most variable. Indoors I get 50-60FPS, outdoors (flying around) I get a solid 30FPS.
In other not so intensive games (AC:Brotherhood, Dishonored, Portal 2, that kind of thing) get a rock solid 60FPS.

So overall a 7870 is very playable IMO, especially after a somewhat big overclock like I have done.
January 8, 2013 11:47:38 PM

Get a better single card before Crossfire/SLI'ing two lower end cards. If you can afford it, jump straight to the 670.

Also if you want a rough idea of how well a 660 will perform, look at my post above. The 660 and 7870 are very close in performance.
Also whether recording gameplay will impact performance will depend on your storage solution, not on the GPU.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEGDgzlc7mA
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