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January 8, 2013 11:17:25 PM

I'm considering picking this up for $900, 6 months of use on most of the parts.
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CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($192.14 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($104.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Callisto Deluxe 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($469.99 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($101.97 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 800W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Best Buy)
Optical Drive: LG BH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Monitor: Samsung S23A300B 23.0" Monitor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($135.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1914.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-08 20:26 EST-0500)


I want to run current games on max settings with stable FPS, 30+

Is this worth the money? Will the CPU bottleneck? Am I better off buying everything new at a hit to performance? How much of a hit would I be taking?

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January 8, 2013 11:32:37 PM

Ok lets build you a better system. Mind if I use Newegg?

New hardware is ALWAYS preferred. So much fewer issues.
January 8, 2013 11:37:03 PM

Novuake said:
Ok lets build you a better system. Mind if I use Newegg?

New hardware is ALWAYS preferred. So much fewer issues.

I'd like to know what's wrong with that bundle first off though. The value for the price is the best thing I've ever seen, I realize the CPU is 3 generations behind, but that can be upgraded and retail the video card alone is over half of my $900 budget. I also would lose out on the 120GB SSD, 1TB of storage space and another monitor to work with. Also, just for reference. The PC is clean as hell, it's very well taken care of. here is a picture of the internals.

http://imageshack.us/a/img210/6996/pc2vm.jpg
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January 8, 2013 11:57:44 PM

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $219.99
CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $24.99
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $127.99
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $47.99
Storage: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $139.99
Storage: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $109.99
Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $419.99
Sound Card: None required! Onboard is good these days, try it out and if you are not satisfied get and ASus
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $79.99
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $79.99
Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $16.99
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $144.99
Operating System: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $139.99
Total: $1552.88

OK so that one I ahve just compiled is BETTER by a large margin than the one you can get AND cheaper with the exception of the sound card.

If you are still under a tight budget, lose the SSD.

The PSU is total overkill and not as good quality as the one I suggest.
The SSD sucks in comparison to modern SSDs at a similar price.
One HDD of 2TB is much cheaper.
The CPU cooler is not nearly as good as the EVO i suggested ANd its mroe expensive.
An i5 3570K is THE gaming CPU these days and far outperforms the AMD. It even OCs better.
The one I suggested has USB3.
The HD7970 is a better card than the GTX680. And will OC waayy beyond the GTX.
The case is large and overkill aswel.
January 9, 2013 12:06:58 AM

My budget is $900. Not anything close to what you're proposing sir. Remember that I'm getting all of the parts I listed for $900.
January 9, 2013 12:08:50 AM

paparhino said:
I'd like to know what's wrong with that bundle first off though. The value for the price is the best thing I've ever seen, I realize the CPU is 3 generations behind, but that can be upgraded and retail the video card alone is over half of my $900 budget. I also would lose out on the 120GB SSD, 1TB of storage space and another monitor to work with. Also, just for reference. The PC is clean as hell, it's very well taken care of. here is a picture of the internals.

http://imageshack.us/a/img210/6996/pc2vm.jpg


As you can see you are being taken for a ride. A second hand PC with those specs is not near that value. You could build an identical one to that for the same price or maybe even less.
January 9, 2013 12:09:34 AM

paparhino said:
My budget is $900. Not anything close to what you're proposing sir. Remember that I'm getting all of the parts I listed for $900.


Ah I misread that it seems. Gimme a min.

January 9, 2013 12:10:46 AM

I don't think you can beat this build I'm debating over for $900, really. He's also offering RMA service if any of the parts break.

I can upgrade the mobo+CPU for about $400 down the road in a few years for a huge boost too and still be able to play everything at high-max settings at that time.
January 9, 2013 12:15:22 AM

Its a good price but not EVER a good idea to buy used parts, EVER! You would be much better of just building from the ground up.
January 9, 2013 12:17:51 AM

Novuake said:
Its a good price but not good EVER a good idea to buy used parts, EVER! You would be much better of just building from the ground up.

For that price point I really doubt it. He said he would handle any returns that needed to be made on any faulty parts.
January 9, 2013 12:21:56 AM

Don´t be too headstrong about used hardware, go buy it, I would do it.
January 9, 2013 12:22:44 AM

paparhino said:
For that price point I really doubt it. He said he would handle any returns that needed to be made on any faulty parts.


Trust can be an ugly thing.
January 9, 2013 12:38:10 AM

Novuake said:
Trust can be an ugly thing.

Low framerates can be aswell.
January 9, 2013 12:40:27 AM

paparhino said:
Low framerates can be aswell.




:D  it got guarantee why not?
January 9, 2013 12:41:23 AM

pit_1209 said:
:D  it got guarantee why not?

That's what I'm saying.

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January 9, 2013 12:49:32 AM
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If the seller can demonstrate that the build works, I'd go for it. Make sure to run something like OCCT and HWMonitor (a free download for personal use on both of those) just to be sure that 1) It won't crash under load, and 2) temps are within spec.

I have a 1090T with a 6950, and I get minimum 30 frames at 1080p in most games. The ones that don't get minimum 30 frames, such as Crysis, only ever go below 30 at rare times. I have had no issues what so ever in terms of frame rates.
January 9, 2013 12:49:51 AM

paparhino said:
That's what I'm saying.


for how much time the RMA service? and why he´s selling at that price?
January 9, 2013 12:52:13 AM

Robert Pankiw said:
If the seller can demonstrate that the build works, I'd go for it. Make sure to run something like OCCT and HWMonitor (a free download for personal use on both of those) just to be sure that 1) It won't crash under load, and 2) temps are within spec.

I have a 1090T with a 6950, and I get minimum 30 frames at 1080p in most games. The ones that don't get minimum 30 frames, such as Crysis, only ever go below 30 at rare times. I have had no issues what so ever in terms of frame rates.

Yes, I told him I would have to stress test it and he was perfectly fine with that. I know what I'm looking for.

Great, thanks for the insight man :) 

pit_1209 said:
for how much time the RMA service?

I'm not sure, I'll have to ask him.
January 9, 2013 12:54:39 AM

paparhino said:
Yes, I told him I would have to stress test it and he was perfectly fine with that. I know what I'm looking for.

Great, thanks for the insight man :) 


I'm not sure, I'll have to ask him.


ask him and why he´s selling at that price?
January 9, 2013 1:01:52 AM

pit_1209 said:
ask him and why he´s selling at that price?

He said he's selling because he recently bought a laptop with the same specs and doesn't need the desktop anymore.
January 9, 2013 1:06:34 AM

what????????? a laptop with the sames specs??? gtx 680 graphic power in a laptop? it´s me or that´s a lie? or it seems
January 9, 2013 1:08:49 AM

pit_1209 said:
what????????? a laptop with the sames specs??? gtx 680 graphic power in a laptop? it´s me or that´s a lie? or it seems

Not a 680, but this is what he said.

"I want to get rid of it because I have no need for it. I have a laptop that is just as good so the desktop is not being used and I would rather sell it to someone who would enjoy it"
January 9, 2013 1:10:48 AM

well, just make sure everything is working fine, that he gives you a good RMA time and good luck with everything.
January 9, 2013 2:06:02 AM

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January 9, 2013 2:12:17 AM

Shame.. With that dinky 23' I think a 3570K and 7970 would not bottleneck.. Other than on multidisplays. And if for some reason it does you would be able to OC it up to par.. I have a Evo and it is cold. Only game I think you will see any below 30 drops would probably be Crysis 3.. I ran the game maxed out on slightly lower gpu specs with slight dips. But if you feel you need that used hardware right before the new generations come out.. I hope it was worth it for the overpriced system..
January 9, 2013 2:14:57 AM

protogenic said:
Shame.. With that dinky 23' I think a 3570K and 7970 would not bottleneck.. Other than on multidisplays. And if for some reason it does you would be able to OC it up to par.. I have a Evo and it is cold. Only game I think you will see any below 30 drops would probably be Crysis 3.. I ran the game maxed out on slightly lower gpu specs with slight dips. But if you feel you need that used hardware right before the new generations come out.. I hope it was worth it for the overpriced system..

How is it over-priced? The 680 alone is half of my $900 budget retail.
January 9, 2013 2:32:03 AM

Are you buying a BRAND, NEW 680? No. Therefore.. Why pay more? Your RAM is wayy overpriced too btw.. I have 16 gigs of 1866 G.Skill Sniper I got last year for the same price that 8gig set is.. (2 sticks of 8). If you keep comparing the 680 to the one in the bundle which is used.. I would just go ahead and buy a new one.. I don't want to appear like I am patronizing you.. But Novuake has a point.. Why pay $900 for a used system that is moderately outdated? In addition to that, why not start fresh with bragging rights to say you built it...
January 9, 2013 11:12:48 AM

protogenic said:
Are you buying a BRAND, NEW 680? No. Therefore.. Why pay more? Your RAM is wayy overpriced too btw.. I have 16 gigs of 1866 G.Skill Sniper I got last year for the same price that 8gig set is.. (2 sticks of 8). If you keep comparing the 680 to the one in the bundle which is used.. I would just go ahead and buy a new one.. I don't want to appear like I am patronizing you.. But Novuake has a point.. Why pay $900 for a used system that is moderately outdated? In addition to that, why not start fresh with bragging rights to say you built it...

The 680 is about a week old. And I don't know how much the ram actually ran him as far as cost goes, all I know is that it's red corsair Vengeance 1600 DDR3 2x 4GB Sticks.

I would love to build my own but this is a monster deal that I can't back down from.
January 9, 2013 11:48:41 AM

paparhino said:
The 680 is about a week old. And I don't know how much the ram actually ran him as far as cost goes, all I know is that it's red corsair Vengeance 1600 DDR3 2x 4GB Sticks.

I would love to build my own but this is a monster deal that I can't back down from.


A week? LOL
January 9, 2013 4:44:14 PM

Novuake said:
A week? LOL

"Graphics card is brand new" I'm guessing 1-4 weeks.
February 18, 2013 6:38:07 AM

Did you buy it?
February 18, 2013 10:17:28 AM

envy14tpe said:
Did you buy it?

Yes!!!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($102.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($474.99 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Recon3D Fatal1ty Champion 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 ATX Full Tower Case ($174.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 800W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($97.34 @ TigerDirect)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS112-29 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($134.35 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($119.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Samsung PX2370 23.0" Monitor ($294.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Other: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P ($109.99)
Total: $1754.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-18 07:16 EST-0500)

I got this total build with used parts for $900 out the door, including a Samsung PX2370 Monitor! Most of the parts still have over a year warranty on them aside from the sound card, but I don't really give a crap about the sound card. The video card is about 3 weeks old and everything is in wonderful pristine condition. I plan on upgrading the Motherboard and CPU in about two years to whatever is winning benchmarks at the time, I'm very, very pleased with this build, it chews up and spits out any game I've thrown at it. :) 

And of course, Pictures! Here is the album! :D 

http://imgur.com/a/7qUzS
February 18, 2013 11:00:12 AM

For $900, that is insane. The CPU leaves something to be desired but the system will rip through everything imaginable. Should be fun as hell and that system will last for years.

At first I thought it could be a stolen computer, but doesn't seem so.

Consider yourself damn lucky.
February 18, 2013 11:01:38 AM

nevermind. saw mobo at bottom.
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