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January 9, 2013 3:00:55 AM

Hi, i'm building my first ever pc with a tight budget... with that i have found the components that but having a hard time choosing between those... even though i'm an IT person and a gamer, i never bothered nor interested about the parts or studying those before.

here's what i want that may help you decide what's best for me...
1. for gaming (mostly for dota 2... and maybe some games like AC3,DMC or the like... not really a fan of shooter games coz i really suck at that type of games)
2. programming VB.net,C#,foxpro and SQLServer

this are the items available near our place that i think would be a good price-performance deal for my budget... either one of the components per category would be okay for me (price based).

CPU:
i5 3570K
i7 3770k

MoBo:
Gigabyte GA Z77X-UD3H
AsRock Z77 Extreme4

GPU:
PowerColor HD 7850 2gb ddr5
PowerColor HD 7870 2gb ddr5
Sapphire HD 7850 2gb ddr5

note* i'll be using 1920x1080 resolution

RAM:
G.Skill RipJaws 8gb 1600 (12800CL10S) 1x8
G.Skill RipJaws 8gb 1600 (12800CL9D) 2x4
Kingston Hyper X Memory 8gb (1600C10D3B1/8G) 1x8
Kingston Hyper X 8gb BLU (1600C9D3B1K2/8GX) 2x4
Kingston Hyper X 8gb Genesis (1866C9D3K2/8GX) 2x4

note* i think i would only be needing 8g of ram, right? i may buy another 8g ram later i guess. :) 

PSU:
don't really know yet... just wanna know what Wattage should i buy... i may be do a crossfire that would be in the far future (1-2 yrs from now) and would not mind buying another psu later... :na: 

that's all... i hope you can help me choose the best parts for me with that limited list of items...

thanks in advance!

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January 9, 2013 7:06:30 AM

If I were to pick from the parts you listed, I'll go with these:

i5 3570k
AsRock Z77 Extreme4
Sapphire HD 7850 2gb ddr5
G.Skill RipJaws 8gb 1600 (12800CL9D) 2x4

for PSU, check this out for brands and series, http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/permalink/323050/323050/...
get a 500-600w psu. and when you plan to crossfire. then you can get a 750w psu.

- i5 over i7 because you don't need the i7 and its hyperthreading. It would just make a crap of your fps. and price difference is not justifiable by very very very minimal performance difference.

- chose asrock board because it is reccomended by this site. and also good price.

- chose the gpu because of the brand. if you could find a 7870 sapphire, better.

- Make sure you get a cooler as you overclock your cpu. a hyper 212 evo will do.
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January 9, 2013 7:24:08 AM

thanks for the reply man... i was wondering for AsRock Z77 Extreme4, the memory standard is ... DDR3 2800+(OC)/2400(OC)/2133(OC)/1866(OC)/1600/1333/1066
what does it mean for those with (OC) like 1866(OC)? if i overclock my cpu i can use that ram frequency? if by any chance i can find a Ripjaws 8g 1866 2x4 would it be useful even without OCing?

yes... i'm buying the CM hyper 212 evo coz it is pretty much recommended by everyone...
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January 9, 2013 7:27:13 AM

3570k - it'll perform EXACTLY the same as the i7, if not way better.

Either of those motherboards are great, but I can tell you from personal experience that the asrock will overclock better and have a better/easier UEFI. (I have a computer with each.)

I'd go with the Sapphire in a snap. PowerColor makes crappy cards. That being said, this is the the iffiest spot... I'd almost recommend dropping to an I3/Pentium to get a better graphics card. (And I would guarantee that you should wait on buying the GPU for just a couple months - the 8000 series will be out by then, and will have HUGE performance gains while being priced slightly cheaper than the 7k series was at launch.)

As for ram, don't get either - if you overclock at all, get 8GB of Samsung ram. It's the dream of any enthusiast, and a bit of a secret weapon of a lot of us. If you don't overclock, get anything that's low profile. (The heatsink shouldn't stick up above the end of the actual RAM hardly at all.)

Don't bother with 8GB of ram - with no swap file and 8GB of ram, running photoshop, BF3, and 20 tabs in chrome all at once, I don't even hit 6.5GB used.

As for your power supply, get a 550w of a reliable brand. That'll be plenty until you do go for a dual-card setup. (Though it's ALWAYS better to get a single, more powerful card than it is to Crossfire / SLI.)



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January 9, 2013 7:43:46 AM

nonkimono said:
thanks for the reply man... i was wondering for AsRock Z77 Extreme4, the memory standard is ... DDR3 2800+(OC)/2400(OC)/2133(OC)/1866(OC)/1600/1333/1066
what does it mean for those with (OC) like 1866(OC)? if i overclock my cpu i can use that ram frequency? if by any chance i can find a Ripjaws 8g 1866 2x4 would it be useful even without OCing?

yes... i'm buying the CM hyper 212 evo coz it is pretty much recommended by everyone...


With that, I'm not really sure, but what I would say is, stick with 1600, you don't need a 1866. All build I had waswith 1600. saved money too.
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January 9, 2013 7:45:57 AM

DarkSable said:


(And I would guarantee that you should wait on buying the GPU for just a couple months - the 8000 series will be out by then, and will have HUGE performance gains while being priced slightly cheaper than the 7k series was at launch.)

As for ram, don't get either - if you overclock at all, get 8GB of Samsung ram. It's the dream of any enthusiast, and a bit of a secret weapon of a lot of us. If you don't overclock, get anything that's low profile. (The heatsink shouldn't stick up above the end of the actual RAM hardly at all.)



like how many months would i wait?

is this the samsung ram that you mean? Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US DDR3 1600 MHz 8GB Memory Kit
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January 9, 2013 7:56:43 AM

i think i'll go with admbautista's suggestion... but i may consider DarkSable's ram suggestion if i can find it... thanks mates...
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January 9, 2013 7:58:12 AM

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January 9, 2013 7:59:58 AM

You can wait on the video card if you want, but I wouldn't recommend it.
And you'd probably be waiting a month or two, based on availability.

From my experience, the hassle and cost of trying to get the new 7000 series when they first came out wasn't worth it. The 7000 series was released in January, and yet my first 7970 ended up costing 600+ when I picked it up in April. Even with all that, the pre-mature drivers caused it to crash so much I couldn't even use it reliably until the 12.4 drivers came out in May or June.

Keeping in mind your focus on going with your list, I recommend the following:
i5 3570K
AsRock Z77 Extreme4
Sapphire HD 7850 2gb ddr5
G.Skill RipJaws 8gb 1600 (12800CL9D) 2x4.

To answer your question about memory overclocking, as long as you OC your CPU with the clock multiplier and not base clock (BCLK) you can OC your memory just fine. You can do it with base clock too, but that gets a bit more tricky.

G.Skills are very easy to overclock, and are incredibly reliable (bought half a dozen sets and have yet to receive even one bad DIMM), so I wouldn't expect you'd have any trouble getting it to 1866, and even higher as long as you take your time and read up on a bit (and probably use some looser timings).

Honestly though, if you're looking to save money and not do things just for the hell of it, a 2x4gb 1600 kit will serve you just fine.
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