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Dell XPS 8300 Graphics Card Upgrade?

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November 25, 2012 2:39:21 PM

Hello everyone, I am new to upgrading my machine but i know my way around and i have a question. I own a Dell XPS 8300 and my current graphics card is a AMD HD 6450. I like to game and this card is not very good. I was searching around and i was wondering if this would fit my machine:

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graph...


My PSU is very crappy so i know i'll have to get a new one? 125V from what i checked. All your help will be greatly appreciated.
November 25, 2012 5:15:55 PM

It problably will fit, ive got a 6670 from saphire and it looks very similar to that, so i know the size, and it's small!:p 

You should get a power supply, but don't be pulled into anything like a 700W Power supply for 15 quid, get a 500w for about 50-60$
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November 25, 2012 5:18:33 PM

oakcatton said:
It problably will fit, ive got a 6670 from saphire and it looks very similar to that, so i know the size, and it's small!:p 

You should get a power supply, but don't be pulled into anything like a 700W Power supply for 15 quid, get a 500w for about 50-60$


Thanks for you input. How does the card run? Graphically of course.
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November 25, 2012 5:21:07 PM

What is your screen resolution?
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November 25, 2012 5:27:03 PM

oakcatton said:
What is your screen resolution?


at the moment i use my TV as a monitor runs at 1360x768
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November 25, 2012 5:35:27 PM

At that resolution...i wouldn't really now:/ But very good performance seeing as those cards are designed to play at 1920x1080 :p 
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November 25, 2012 5:39:54 PM

oakcatton said:
At that resolution...i wouldn't really now:/ But very good performance seeing as those cards are designed to play at 1920x1080 :p 


Sorry to bother you more but how about this one? I mean seems not too pricey the reviews don't sound too bad also.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 25, 2012 5:49:29 PM

oakcatton said:
the 7770 is a step up from the 7750

have a look at this

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750...

the last 1 in the list is the 7750, and the 7770 is beating the gtx 460, 550ti and the hd radeon 5770. And it runs at 45 fps instead of 35


Thanks for that pretty powerful piece for the price. Do you think 7750 at 85$ after rebate would be worth it? considering the 7770 is at 115$ after rebate... Thank you for your help mate.
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November 25, 2012 5:50:46 PM

I think you should get the 7770, for 30$ you get 10 fps, that's pretty good:) 
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November 25, 2012 6:01:03 PM

Paliut said:
I noticed it is a PCI 3.0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

how would i know if it is compatible?




PCIE is backwards compatible.


As long as you have a PCIE slot it is gonna work if you have the proper power supply to power it. the only down side is a loss of fps in games, but to you that would be irrelevant just because you would be gaining so much over what you have.
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November 25, 2012 6:06:46 PM

maxalge said:
PCIE is backwards compatible.


As long as you have a PCIE slot it is gonna work if you have the proper power supply to power it. the only down side is a loss of fps in games, but to you that would be irrelevant just because you would be gaining so much over what you have.



would the card fit into my xps 8300?
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November 25, 2012 6:21:20 PM

Paliut said:
would the card fit into my xps 8300?




People say they upgraded to a sapphire 6870 with a Dell XPS 8300.


I believe the 7770 is smaller.


Also you have the xps 8300 with the intel 2600 cpu right? If so it has a 460w power supply.





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November 25, 2012 6:32:59 PM

Here is Tom's Hardware graphics cards hierarchy chart:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

*** Edit ***: If you have the 460W power supply that comes with most XPS 8300 you should be ok in term of power and it looks like it comes with 2 x 6-pin PCI-E power connectors as well. So I wouldn't upgrade the PSU if I were you. Dell makes quality power supplies, they're just very conservative with the numbers, so if they say it's 460W it means it really is and maybe more. Some cheap PSU makers will have the opposite, like advertise 600W but when pushed beyond 450W it catches fire, lol! By the way GPU makers also tend to exaggerate the requirements of their card just not to take any chance, so when AMD states that a 7770 requires at least a 500W PSU it doesn't need that much power really, you should be more than fine with 460W.

The 7770 should give a decent 1920 x 1080 gaming experience, but at 1366 x 768 you'll be able to play everything with max settings. If you're on a tight budget, the 7750 would be a viable option too, but personally I'd spend a later more on a 7770 just to have a little more headroom for future games.
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November 25, 2012 6:34:17 PM

I am a Dell XPS 8300 owner as well, and I am using the HD 6770 as I ordered with the computer. It's way larger than your card, so a HD 7770 should be nothing comparing to the length of the HD 6770. It should fit your case. I measure the case last time, and I believe it have about 10 inch of length for your PCIE cards.
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November 25, 2012 7:10:00 PM

MC_K7 said:
Here is Tom's Hardware graphics cards hierarchy chart:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

*** Edit ***: If you have the 460W power supply that comes with most XPS 8300 you should be ok in term of power and it looks like it comes with 2 x 6-pin PCI-E power connectors as well. So I wouldn't upgrade the PSU if I were you. Dell makes quality power supplies, they're just very conservative with the numbers, so if they say it's 460W it means it really is and maybe more. Some cheap PSU makers will have the opposite, like advertise 600W but when pushed beyond 450W it catches fire, lol! By the way GPU makers also tend to exaggerate the requirements of their card just not to take any chance, so when AMD states that a 7770 requires at least a 500W PSU it doesn't need that much power really, you should be more than fine with 460W.

The 7770 should give a decent 1920 x 1080 gaming experience, but at 1366 x 768 you'll be able to play everything with max settings. If you're on a tight budget, the 7750 would be a viable option too, but personally I'd spend a later more on a 7770 just to have a little more headroom for future games.



Thanks you all. For a person who mentioned my CPU Intel i have Intel i5 2320. Honestly i don't know the power wattage. On the tag it says "~10A 125V "
I will prob go for a 7770 since it seems better bang for buck. Can you tell me what the PSU label means.
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November 25, 2012 7:23:29 PM

7750's and 7770's don't even usually need an external power from your psu. Just upgraded my 8100 with a black friday 7750 deal and it's running great. Black Ops 2 at 50-60FPS, most eye candy on at 1280x1024. They were out of the 7770's.
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November 25, 2012 8:29:40 PM

For a system using a single Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition graphics card AMD specifies a minimum of a 500 Watt or greater power supply. The power supply should also have a combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 23 Amps or greater and have at least one 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connector.

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection!!! Total Combined Continuous Power/Current Available on the +12V Rail(s) rated @ 45-50°C ambient temperature, is the most critical factor.

You may find power supplies on the market that supply more than enough Wattage to run the system. However, many of them lack the Amperage capacity on the critical +12 Volt rail, which is necessary to properly power the critical components in the system (i.e. CPU and GPUs). This is the reason why graphics card manufacturers overstate the power supply wattage, usually by at least 50 Watts, to take into account those power supplies that have the weaker +12 Volt rail(s).

The Dell XPS 8300 460 Watt OEM Power Supply Unit, with its combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 32 Amps and with two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors, is more than sufficient to power your system configuration with a single Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition.
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