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7950 Bottleneck with AMD Phenom

Hey, I recently bought a 7950 and realized that my CPU isn't nearly as strong as it needs to be(AMD Phenom 9750 Quad 2.4 ghz), so I was wondering which CPU would be good to upgrade to for a minimal price. I was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106009. In addition, I only have a 500W power supply. Thanks.
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  1. What is your mobo and budget ?
  2. my preferred budget is upto 170, 200 if necessary.
  3. It's AM2+ so I think I'm going to have to upgrade the mobo
  4. and maybe the ram.

    List you PSU specs please.
  5. Not a bad budget combo ==> Mobo = CPU :)
  6. I have an Antec 500W PSU and 8 gigs of RAM. Will the combo you listed bottleneck my 7950?
  7. At 1080p no.

    But you need DDR3 ram. 4gb is plenty
  8. Is 8GB DDR2 good enough?
  9. Depends on what part.

    8 GB=good
    DDR2=bad
  10. If you want to save your old memory, sell it on ebay, then buy 8 gb of ddr3 it is only $30 and faster.
  11. alright well what do you guys think of my combo compared to what Embra posted?
  12. Well u need a new PC :D

    Total budget so i can build 1 for you
  13. 250, I was thinking of getting a MSI 760GM-P34(FX) Motherboard, 8 gb of Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3 Ram and a AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz processor. Will this rig run on a 500W PSU or bottleneck my 7950?
  14. This comes out to like 222$
  15. It should be fine, although I'm not sure 500W will do it.. (it should but I like to be on the safe side)
    You might want to consider a i3-3220, similar price, I think uses less power.

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=677
  16. You can go for budget intel i3 based system which will be good for 7950. That fx-6300 is not that good. Windows 8 will run it as 3-core. Not so efficient. A i3 cpu will give you more frame than fx-6300.
  17. It wont be a bottleneck. 6300 Is a new processor but why u sticking with AMD specially with that CPU.

    CPU

    AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $89.99
    Motherboard

    ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $99.99
    Memory

    G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $24.99

    Total: $214.97

    This is a better build and Wattage is here

    125W Cpu
    16W Ram
    15W Hdd
    25W Dvd
    208W Gpu

    389W
  18. Intel Build


    CPU
    Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor $119.99

    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $104.99

    Memory
    G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $24.99

    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hcpQ

    Wattage

    55W Cpu
    16W Ram
    15W Hdd
    25W Dvd
    208W Gpu

    319W

    Safer and better with this build.

    IMO u should get this. And there wont be any bottleneck
  19. Which build is more potent?
  20. derpthesauce said:
    Which build is more potent?



    Sure it would. Nothing to worry there.

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=677

    U still have the upgrade path with intel.U can always drop down to I5/7 later !
  21. prototype18 said:
    It wont be a bottleneck. 6300 Is a new processor but why u sticking with AMD specially with that CPU.

    CPU

    AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $89.99
    Motherboard

    ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $99.99
    Memory

    G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $24.99

    Total: $214.97

    This is a better build and Wattage is here

    125W Cpu
    16W Ram
    15W Hdd
    25W Dvd
    208W Gpu

    389W


    Yeah, its a better option. Old Phenom are good than new AMD cpu.
  22. So, i3 or the Phenom?
  23. Oh also, the Phenom is compatible with my AM2 motherboard, will getting the new motherboard affect my frame rate in games a considerable amount or is it skippable?
    EDIT: the current mobo is also a PCI 2.0 and my 7950 is 3.0 compatible, if this affects the answer at all.
    2nd EDIT: Is there a large difference between the ASRock and cheaper mobos?


  24. The second answer.
    -------------------------------------
    The first answer

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=677

    As i said before get the I3. Its better than P4 and you have Upgrade path. Lets say you get some money and u buy the I5. Way better than any amd CPU.

    My vote I3 !!
  25. So, should I upgrade my mobo?
  26. Yes u should .Its AM2 and P4 Its AM3.

    But i still recommend going with I3.

    I see you are in love with AMD but for a better price/performance and less power draw I3 is superior to P4.

    Edit : Well there is some difference in cheaper mobos. Thats why they are cheaper.

    Asus is the king .Asrock was part of Asus but now its solo and has cheaper mobos.

    Gigabyte and Msi are also two good mobo brands.

    But i prefer Asus/Asrock as they never failed me unlike Gigabyte.
  27. I'm taking my opinions off this thread, http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/347822-28-3220-phenom. Also, if I was to expand my budget to 300, what CPU would you recommend then?
  28. Well you could change it with an I5-3570K but that would require 330$.

    CPU
    Intel Core i5 3570k Quad-Core Processor $199.99

    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $104.99

    Memory
    G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $24.99

    And that link doesnt work.


    @Maximus get your own thread.Not so hard !
  29. alright, so with the i3 build should I be able to get 60+ fps in bf3 or planetside 2?
  30. Yes for sure . That is Guaranteed !!!

    I can get 50 Fps + on Bf3 . And look my CPU is a 20$ Pentium.
  31. currently, even with the new 7950 I'm only getting 30-40, would you attribute this to the CPU, mobo, RAM or all of the above?
  32. Yes . I3 is powerful than your current CPU and RAM does also affect it.

    My last PC was Athlon 4200+ OCed to 2.5 Ghz 3 Gb Ddr2 Hd 5450

    I was strugling at all the games i wanted to play on good quality. But now i can kill everything .

    And so you WILL if u get that I3 build :)
  33. I think this is the last point here, would you recommend I get one of the cheaper i5's or i7's over what your i3? ex: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115089
  34. Oh also, looking at this, http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html
    I see that the 8 core FX series scores pretty highly on benchmarks, so would you recommend that I purchase one if possible?
  35. Passmark its no really accurate.

    I5/I7 can not be beaten by Fx 8xxx.

    So i still reccomend I5 3570K as it is 200 $ same as i5 2400 and cheaper than I5 2500k.

    30 $ wouldnt harm i think and they are really worth it. You would keep that I5 for a very very long time
  36. That RAM you specified isn't 17.99, if so, can you send me a link. If it's not I was wondering if this is fine, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233242
  37. Alright, thank you for all your help. I would've ended up with a *** processor and laptop RAM without you.
  38. Just a final note, you're sure that the i3 is more powerful than the Phenom?
  39. xD

    No Problem :)

    I'm here to help you !

    Edit : Yes it is .

    I3 has better core clock and i went with Intel CPU too . And look what i did .

    I bought a 20$ cpu on ebay and im saving to get I5 3570 K . Within a moth ill be getting that. But with P4 i cant do such a thing.

    Comparing to gaming even low end CPU intels were beating AMD.

    So I3 will do great in gaming and there wont be any think for you to worry.
  40. Can I overclock to something like 3.8 or 4 gHz?
  41. Really easily to 4.5 Ghz.

    Hyper 212 Evo will help you to keep that CPU cool.
  42. Wait, if I don't have a cool system decent enough to cool an overclock would you still recommend the i3?
  43. Oh, you stated you got 50+ fps on BF3, at what resolution?
  44. Well I3 cant be OCed so you dont really need something to cool it. Stock cooler is ok.

    I get 50+ on 1280x1024 on everything cranked to max.

    And i have a different CPU and GPU

    I3>>G620

    7950>>560 Ti
  45. So you would definitely recommend the i5? I'm leaning towards that right now. Is it that much better than the i3?
  46. Well sure it is. It can be OCed and smoke the I3.

    Its a true Quad core instead of the I3 having only 2 Real Cores and uses HT.

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/677?vs=701

    I5 will last you way more than I3
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