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November 25, 2012 2:20:10 PM

I'm looking to upgrade from my Radeon HD 5970 to something that will be able to run next gen games on highest settings without spending $600. I knew I needed an upgrade when I was playing Batman Arkham City and ran into some stuttering issues even after overclocked.

I have a ASUS P6X58D mobo. Even though its just a 2.0 PCIe, from what I read, I should be ok getting a 3.0 PCIe. Been looking at going back to Nvidia. Any advice on what a solid upgrade could be?

EDITED: SORRY FOR DOUBLE POST.

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November 25, 2012 2:20:10 PM

I'm looking to upgrade from my Radeon HD 5970 to something that will be able to run next gen games on highest settings without spending $600. I knew I needed an upgrade when I was playing Batman Arkham City and ran into some stuttering issues even after overclocked.

I have a ASUS P6X58D mobo. Even though its just a 2.0 PCIe, from what I read, I should be ok getting a 3.0 PCIe. Been looking at going back to Nvidia. Any advice on what a solid upgrade could be?
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November 25, 2012 2:42:11 PM

Go for radeon hd 7750
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November 25, 2012 2:45:13 PM

Other specs on my PC:

Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W
CPU: Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core
RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

I just remembered that GW2 was really giving me problems. I would have to set settings down to mid/low settings.

Any help is appreciated! First time poster, long time reader of the forums.
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November 25, 2012 2:47:35 PM

The nvidia 670 GTX EVGA FTW/MSI PE will be your best bet.
No problem with the pcie 2.0 slot it's 100 % compatible and with no loss of performance vs pcie 3.0.
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November 25, 2012 2:53:31 PM

I'd say the 7870 for comparative performance, the 7950/7970 as an upgrade.
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November 25, 2012 2:54:56 PM

SamarhG must be trolling. I think $600 is GTX670 territory (could be 680 I dunno I like in UK). That'll give you the power
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November 25, 2012 2:56:54 PM

Unfortunately the 5970 was handicapped out of the door as it was underclocked and undervolted to keep it's power output down.

Anyway, solid upgrade. Look to the GTX660Ti/670 or Radeon HD 7870/7890/7950. Personally, I'd go the way of either the 660Ti or the 670. Their smaller than the radeons, draw less power and just as powerful.
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November 25, 2012 3:01:14 PM

Even a gtx670 is a bit of a lateral upgrade if that. You'll need to go with the fastest single card or a dual gpu of current generation to make it worth while.

Your stuttering issues is most likely a driver related issue. That 5970 is still a powerful card.
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November 25, 2012 3:01:48 PM

That chart is really wrong if you think a 5970 has the same performance as a 670, performance wise the 670 should be in the same group as 7970 and 680.
The 670 gtx oc is really the same performance as a 680 gtx.
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November 25, 2012 3:11:55 PM

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Even a gtx670 is a bit of a lateral upgrade if that. You'll need to go with the fastest single card or a dual gpu of current generation to make it worth while.

Your stuttering issues is most likely a driver related issue. That 5970 is still a powerful card.



Yes, I wouldn't want to just make a lateral upgrade obviously. How about getting another 5970? I wouldn't have to get the same manufacturer would I? Unfortunately, my card was a gift and Diamond manufactured it.

As far as the stuttering issue, I just bought a new hard drive a couple months ago and did a clean reinstall of everything. I'm using the most up to date drivers, but maybe I should clean those out and try again..
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November 25, 2012 3:14:18 PM

What resolution are you playing at? Maybe try reinstalling an older driver, after completely wiping the old one. On normal hi-def res, you should have absolutely no problems running batman.
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November 25, 2012 3:20:08 PM

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Yes, I wouldn't want to just make a lateral upgrade obviously. How about getting another 5970? I wouldn't have to get the same manufacturer would I? Unfortunately, my card was a gift and Diamond manufactured it.

As far as the stuttering issue, I just bought a new hard drive a couple months ago and did a clean reinstall of everything. I'm using the most up to date drivers, but maybe I should clean those out and try again..


Cygnus x-1 said:
What resolution are you playing at? Maybe try reinstalling an older driver, after completely wiping the old one. On normal hi-def res, you should have absolutely no problems running batman.


I'm running it at 1680x1050. Batman is very minor stuttering. Its games like GW2 that I'm having bigger issues. And just to make sure I'm completely wiping the old one out correctly: Uninstall driver and run driver sweeper in safe mode?
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November 25, 2012 3:24:24 PM

Just in case it matters my specs are:

Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W
CPU: Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core
RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
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November 25, 2012 3:31:39 PM

woocam said:
Other specs on my PC:

Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W
CPU: Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core
RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

I just remembered that GW2 was really giving me problems. I would have to set settings down to mid/low settings.

Any help is appreciated! First time poster, long time reader of the forums.



Please read my post carefully as i had a setup almost exactly like yours.

Till 1 year ago i had
i7 920/d0 stepping (overclocked at 4.0ghz!) with minimal volt boost
6 Gb DDR 3 @1860 (if i recall the memory speed at the oc correctly)
ATI 5870 xfx oc from xfx
monitor 24 1920x1200

and yes after some newer games i had the same problems.

Now RECONSIDER CHANGING YOUR GPU!

THE BOTTLENECK OF YOUR SETUP IS YOUR CPU!!


By accident my motherboard was damaged and it was too expensive to buy a new one of the same socket compared to a sandy bridge upgrade.
So i made my heart to stone and sold my super flexible i7 920 and bought a z68 chipset motherboard and an i5 2500k. And kept my ati 5870!

I will give you some info on games to tell you the facts of my setup (keeping the gpu and upgrading the cpu/mobo)

Arkham at 1920x1200 max AA max Everything doesnt lose fps at all caped 60
Crysis 2 with latest patch and DX11 enabled and extra textures patch @ 1920 x 1200 all settings maxed runs over! 40 fps!
World of Warcraft maxed ultra settings always 60fps (i like vsync on) 100 fps unsynced
World of Tanks with max settings over 55 fps! (and it is not a perfectly written code game )
Diablo 3, Dishonored, UFO Enemy unknown 2012, SwToR, Conan, Actually all games i encountered were at cap fps of vsync 60.

First thing i did after setting up the i5 2500k pc / os was to play lost planet . It was playing really bad with i7 even oced however it was working fluently with the i5 and the ati 5870!.


Trust me m8, the bottleneck in your system is the cpu, unfortunately. The good news is that upgrading to an i5 3xxx and an ivy bridge motherboard is not as expensive and trust me again there will be significant difference at the OS etc.
Also you can sell your i7 920 for some bucks for ppl who had i7 870s.

And the good thing is the upgrade to an i5 34xx / 35xx will be less costly than a new gpu. I bet you have 3x DDR3 so you will have to buy 1 more module to have 2x2 ddr3 channels .
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November 25, 2012 3:35:31 PM

beetlejuicegr said:
Please read my post carefully as i had a setup almost exactly like yours.

Till 1 year ago i had
i7 920/d0 stepping (overclocked at 4.0ghz!) with minimal volt boost
6 Gb DDR 3 @1860 (if i recall the memory speed at the oc correctly)
ATI 5870 xfx oc from xfx
monitor 24 1920x1200

and yes after some newer games i had the same problems.

Now RECONSIDER CHANGING YOUR GPU!

THE BOTTLENECK OF YOUR SETUP IS YOUR CPU!!


By accident my motherboard was damaged and it was too expensive to buy a new one of the same socket compared to a sandy bridge upgrade.
So i made my heart to stone and sold my super flexible i7 920 and bought a z68 chipset motherboard and an i5 2500k. And kept my ati 5870!

I will give you some info on games to tell you the facts of my setup (keeping the gpu and upgrading the cpu/mobo)

Arkham at 1920x1200 max AA max Everything doesnt lose fps at all caped 60
Crysis 2 with latest patch and DX11 enabled and extra textures patch @ 1920 x 1200 all settings maxed runs over! 40 fps!
World of Warcraft maxed ultra settings always 60fps (i like vsync on) 100 fps unsynced
World of Tanks with max settings over 55 fps! (and it is not a perfectly written code game )
Diablo 3, Dishonored, UFO Enemy unknown 2012, SwToR, Conan, Actually all games i encountered were at cap fps of vsync 60.

First thing i did after setting up the i5 2500k pc / os was to play lost planet . It was playing really bad with i7 even oced however it was working fluently with the i5 and the ati 5870!.


Trust me m8, the bottleneck in your system is the cpu, unfortunately. The good news is that upgrading to an i5 3xxx and an ivy bridge motherboard is not as expensive and trust me again there will be significant difference at the OS etc.
Also you can sell your i7 920 for some bucks for ppl who had i7 870s.

And the good thing is the upgrade to an i5 34xx / 35xx will be less costly than a new gpu. I bet you have 3x DDR3 so you will have to buy 1 more module to have 2x2 ddr3 channels .


Thanks! I copied your post and put in on my other post because this is a duplicate thread accidentally.
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November 25, 2012 3:37:15 PM

Here is a post that was on my other duplicate thread: 2nd, 3rd or 4th opinion would be awesome!

beetlejuicegr wrote :


Please read my post carefully as i had a setup almost exactly like yours.

Till 1 year ago i had
i7 920/d0 stepping (overclocked at 4.0ghz!) with minimal volt boost
6 Gb DDR 3 @1860 (if i recall the memory speed at the oc correctly)
ATI 5870 xfx oc from xfx
monitor 24 1920x1200

and yes after some newer games i had the same problems.

Now RECONSIDER CHANGING YOUR GPU!

THE BOTTLENECK OF YOUR SETUP IS YOUR CPU!!


By accident my motherboard was damaged and it was too expensive to buy a new one of the same socket compared to a sandy bridge upgrade.
So i made my heart to stone and sold my super flexible i7 920 and bought a z68 chipset motherboard and an i5 2500k. And kept my ati 5870!

I will give you some info on games to tell you the facts of my setup (keeping the gpu and upgrading the cpu/mobo)

Arkham at 1920x1200 max AA max Everything doesnt lose fps at all caped 60
Crysis 2 with latest patch and DX11 enabled and extra textures patch @ 1920 x 1200 all settings maxed runs over! 40 fps!
World of Warcraft maxed ultra settings always 60fps (i like vsync on) 100 fps unsynced
World of Tanks with max settings over 55 fps! (and it is not a perfectly written code game )
Diablo 3, Dishonored, UFO Enemy unknown 2012, SwToR, Conan, Actually all games i encountered were at cap fps of vsync 60.

First thing i did after setting up the i5 2500k pc / os was to play lost planet . It was playing really bad with i7 even oced however it was working fluently with the i5 and the ati 5870!.


Trust me m8, the bottleneck in your system is the cpu, unfortunately. The good news is that upgrading to an i5 3xxx and an ivy bridge motherboard is not as expensive and trust me again there will be significant difference at the OS etc.
Also you can sell your i7 920 for some bucks for ppl who had i7 870s.

And the good thing is the upgrade to an i5 34xx / 35xx will be less costly than a new gpu. I bet you have 3x DDR3 so you will have to buy 1 more module to have 2x2 ddr3 channels .
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November 25, 2012 3:48:50 PM

Ohh and what i remember from Batman arkham city is that i wasnt impressed with the graphics!

Also other heavy games i start to recall, Max Payne 3 , Deus Ex Human Rev, UT3, Guild Wars 2 (all maxed! distances etc) were playing flawlessly.

And another thing, i am pretty sad that i don't see the 58xx/59xxx series cards on the gpu tests anymore because at single monitor gaming pcs they have nothing to lose compared to the Nvidia 6xx Ati 7xxx cards. (as long as your cpu is up to date)
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November 25, 2012 3:59:15 PM

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    November 25, 2012 3:59:49 PM

    This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Graphics & Displays by Mousemonkey
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    November 25, 2012 4:09:01 PM

    beetlejuicegr said:
    Please read my post carefully as i had a setup almost exactly like yours.

    Till 1 year ago i had
    i7 920/d0 stepping (overclocked at 4.0ghz!) with minimal volt boost
    6 Gb DDR 3 @1860 (if i recall the memory speed at the oc correctly)
    ATI 5870 xfx oc from xfx
    monitor 24 1920x1200

    and yes after some newer games i had the same problems.

    Now RECONSIDER CHANGING YOUR GPU!

    THE BOTTLENECK OF YOUR SETUP IS YOUR CPU!!


    By accident my motherboard was damaged and it was too expensive to buy a new one of the same socket compared to a sandy bridge upgrade.
    So i made my heart to stone and sold my super flexible i7 920 and bought a z68 chipset motherboard and an i5 2500k. And kept my ati 5870!

    I will give you some info on games to tell you the facts of my setup (keeping the gpu and upgrading the cpu/mobo)

    Arkham at 1920x1200 max AA max Everything doesnt lose fps at all caped 60
    Crysis 2 with latest patch and DX11 enabled and extra textures patch @ 1920 x 1200 all settings maxed runs over! 40 fps!
    World of Warcraft maxed ultra settings always 60fps (i like vsync on) 100 fps unsynced
    World of Tanks with max settings over 55 fps! (and it is not a perfectly written code game )
    Diablo 3, Dishonored, UFO Enemy unknown 2012, SwToR, Conan, Actually all games i encountered were at cap fps of vsync 60.

    First thing i did after setting up the i5 2500k pc / os was to play lost planet . It was playing really bad with i7 even oced however it was working fluently with the i5 and the ati 5870!.


    Trust me m8, the bottleneck in your system is the cpu, unfortunately. The good news is that upgrading to an i5 3xxx and an ivy bridge motherboard is not as expensive and trust me again there will be significant difference at the OS etc.
    Also you can sell your i7 920 for some bucks for ppl who had i7 870s.

    And the good thing is the upgrade to an i5 34xx / 35xx will be less costly than a new gpu. I bet you have 3x DDR3 so you will have to buy 1 more module to have 2x2 ddr3 channels .


    Looks like admin moved my post. Unless I hear something drastically differently from someone else, I think I would go the route of getting a new CPU and mobo. Sad that will be more work than just snapping in a new GPU, but glad i wouldn't be wasting my money. Here is my RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...) Think I should try to get all new RAM or try to find one more stick to get to 8 GB?
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    November 25, 2012 4:38:38 PM

    Do you turn physx on when you play Batman arkham city?
    because physx games use CPU for physx if you don't have nvidia graphics card which make the game unplayable when you set physx to high.
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    November 25, 2012 5:20:36 PM

    oxford373 said:
    Do you turn physx on when you play Batman arkham city?
    because physx games use CPU for physx if you don't have nvidia graphics card which make the game unplayable when you set physx to high.

    It's not that and its not just Batman. Batman is very much still playable. My benchmarks are just crappy and a component is definitely bottlenecking. Sounds like beetlejuice is working newer games fine with this card. I just need to find the right upgrade for my CPU and motherboard. I'll also get new RAM if I have to. I'll gladly consider any suggestions.
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    November 25, 2012 6:58:21 PM

    Best answer selected by woocam.
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