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January 9, 2013 6:17:09 PM

Hey,

This is my second post today as I am trying to compose my own computer without limited money.
Here's the build:

Intel Core i5 3570 / 3.4 GHz = CPU

ASUS GTX660-DC2T-2GD5 = GPU

Cooler Master Elite 361 = Case

ASRock B75 Pro3 = Motherboard (No, I don't need a better one because I am NOT going to overclock)

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS = HDD (1TB)

Corsair 600 watt Bronze = Power supply unit

Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB = RAM

Samsung SH-224BB = DVD reader

My main questions are:

- Does this fit into the case / Does this all work with each other

- Is this a good build for High-end gaming on Ultra graphics

- Should I stick with the ASUS GPU, or should I go for the eVGA GPU. (eVGA is cheaper but only has 1 fan and makes more noise because of that)

- Do I still need an extra fan, even though I am not going to overclock?

Website where I'm going to buy this: www.azerty.nl

Greetings, AncientBro

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January 9, 2013 7:51:32 PM

Sorry, didn't know bump wasn't allowed.
January 9, 2013 7:54:16 PM

Bumping posts is against forum rules dooood.

Especially when it is done as obviously as "Bump".
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January 9, 2013 7:55:42 PM

get the 3470 if you aren't going to overclock. i would look at a case with better cable management and a better psu.
January 9, 2013 7:55:52 PM

You do not need an extra heatsink fan. The stock one will be fine.

DO NOT get a coolermaster PSU. The are very reliable and are known to fail well below the posted wattage. Stick with Antec, Corsair, XFX, Seasonic.

January 9, 2013 8:08:04 PM

Quote:
- Does this fit into the case / Does this all work with each other


Yes but it's not at all an ideal configuration. If you're not going to overclock don't get the 3570, and don't bother with B75 - it has ports that you will never use - get a full size ATX motherboard.

Core i5-3470: http://azerty.nl/0-2532-528633/intel-core-i5-3470-3-2-g...
H77 motherboard: http://azerty.nl/0-4924-498006/asrock-h77-pro4-mvp.html

Quote:
- Should I stick with the ASUS GPU, or should I go for the eVGA GPU. (eVGA is cheaper but only has 1 fan and makes more noise because of that)


I like EVGA personally - the Radeons would be better. Alternately I'd recommend the Gigabyte Windforce - they have a really excellent cooling solution: http://azerty.nl/0-4360-517493/gigabyte-gv-n670oc-2gd-g...

Quote:
- Do I still need an extra fan, even though I am not going to overclock?


Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooling-airflow-hea...

Quote:
Cooler Master Elite 361 = Case


Since you're not overclocking pay a bit more and get a better case, I'd suggest this: http://azerty.nl/0-1044-570088/cooler-master-haf-912-ad...
January 9, 2013 8:11:01 PM

jonjonjon said:
get the 3470 if you aren't going to overclock. i would look at a case with better cable management and a better psu.

Actually, the 3570 has higher clock speed. I want to go with this CPU for 3 years, so pay 25 bucks more doesn't harm me.
January 9, 2013 8:17:03 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Quote:
- Does this fit into the case / Does this all work with each other


Yes but it's not at all an ideal configuration. If you're not going to overclock don't get the 3570, and don't bother with B75 - it has ports that you will never use - get a full size ATX motherboard.

Core i5-3470: http://azerty.nl/0-2532-528633/intel-core-i5-3470-3-2-g...
H77 motherboard: http://azerty.nl/0-4924-498006/asrock-h77-pro4-mvp.html

Quote:
- Should I stick with the ASUS GPU, or should I go for the eVGA GPU. (eVGA is cheaper but only has 1 fan and makes more noise because of that)


I like EVGA personally - the Radeons would be better. Alternately I'd recommend the Gigabyte Windforce - they have a really excellent cooling solution: http://azerty.nl/0-4360-517493/gigabyte-gv-n670oc-2gd-g...

Quote:
- Do I still need an extra fan, even though I am not going to overclock?


Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooling-airflow-hea...

Quote:
Cooler Master Elite 361 = Case


Since you're not overclocking pay a bit more and get a better case, I'd suggest this: http://azerty.nl/0-1044-570088/cooler-master-haf-912-ad...

Thanks for trying to help me, but getting a GPU that is 350 bucks, is far too expensive. My budget is around the 700 euro (think like 900 - 950 dollars). Also, that case is pretty expensive and I don't wanna pay for the looks of my computer. And, the 3570 has higher clock rates which is probably better for the future. If I get the 3470, I think I might have too less in the future. This game PC is going to be for Ultra gaming, aka: Skyrim, Battlefield 3, Assassin's Creed 3 etc.
January 9, 2013 8:17:53 PM

AncientBro said:
Actually, the 3570 has higher clock speed. I want to go with this CPU for 3 years, so pay 25 bucks more doesn't harm me.

yea it turbos to 3.8 vs 3.6 on the 3470. not worth the extra money. plus you can overclock the 3470 to 4GHz if you wanted on a board that lets you change the multipliers.
January 9, 2013 8:19:50 PM

The 660 can do ultra settings, yes.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-gef...

Everything else should work together. According the the PSU website, http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6789 , you even have enough PCI-e connectors, which is important.

Personally, I'd stay with a dual fan configuration over single fan. I know you said you won't be OCing, but the extra bit of peace and quiet will be worth it, at least in my opinion.

As for physically fitting in the case, the case is 15x46x38 and the card is 4x26x13, so it should fit just fine, however, I think the case might have a drive cage in the way, though that is just speculation.

The site you listed has an MSI 660 for 20 Euros less (I think that is Euros). Why not choose that one?
January 9, 2013 8:21:26 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Quote:
- Does this fit into the case / Does this all work with each other


Yes but it's not at all an ideal configuration. If you're not going to overclock don't get the 3570, and don't bother with B75 - it has ports that you will never use - get a full size ATX motherboard.

Core i5-3470: http://azerty.nl/0-2532-528633/intel-core-i5-3470-3-2-g...
H77 motherboard: http://azerty.nl/0-4924-498006/asrock-h77-pro4-mvp.html

Quote:
- Should I stick with the ASUS GPU, or should I go for the eVGA GPU. (eVGA is cheaper but only has 1 fan and makes more noise because of that)


I like EVGA personally - the Radeons would be better. Alternately I'd recommend the Gigabyte Windforce - they have a really excellent cooling solution: http://azerty.nl/0-4360-517493/gigabyte-gv-n670oc-2gd-g...

Quote:
- Do I still need an extra fan, even though I am not going to overclock?


Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooling-airflow-hea...

Quote:
Cooler Master Elite 361 = Case


Since you're not overclocking pay a bit more and get a better case, I'd suggest this: http://azerty.nl/0-1044-570088/cooler-master-haf-912-ad...

I changed everything to what you said (except for the GPU as it was far too expensive), and now my PC has become 50 bucks more expensive, I don't wanna pay that difference! Isn't there a cheaper case and why can't I take the ASRock B75 as it is cheaper than the one you recommend me.
January 9, 2013 8:25:12 PM

What if I just keep the ASRock B75 motherboard, and take the Cooler Master Elite 430 as a case. Now, my computer is affordable (for me) again, and I might consider taking the i5 3470 (although the price difference between the 3470 and the 3570 is low)
January 9, 2013 8:25:44 PM

tiny voices said:
Don't even consider a coolermaster PSU. Its not worth risking the whole system.

I'm not using that power supply, I'm now going for the Corsair Builder Series CX600 Bronze.
January 9, 2013 8:27:40 PM

Should I get the superclocked GTX 660? It's even slightly cheaper. 3 bucks.
January 9, 2013 8:29:16 PM

AncientBro said:
Should I get the superclocked GTX 660? It's even slightly cheaper. 3 bucks.

links? is it a reference card?
January 9, 2013 8:29:58 PM

If you want to you could go for it. There won't be much, if any of a noticeable difference.
January 9, 2013 8:31:22 PM

My current list of components now, is:

Intel Core i5 3550 / 3.3 GHz = CPU

Cooler Master Elite 430 = Case

ASRock B75 Pro3 = Motherboard

ASUS GTX660-DC2T-2GD5 = GPU

Samsung SH-224BB = DVD reader

Corsair Builder Series CX600 Bronze = Power supply

Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB = RAM

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS = HDD (1TB)
January 9, 2013 8:33:26 PM

tiny voices said:
If you want to you could go for it. There won't be much, if any of a noticeable difference.

Sorry, I actually ment: Is this safe to take and doesn't it get too hot as it only has 1 fan?
January 9, 2013 8:36:55 PM

i would get the superclocked between those 2 because its factory overclocked. those are both reference cards. they can get loud. watch the video below for the 670's too see what the reference blowers can sound like. the asus you had would be dead silent. something to consider.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-tes...
January 9, 2013 8:37:47 PM

Robert Pankiw said:
The 660 can do ultra settings, yes.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-gef...

Everything else should work together. According the the PSU website, http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6789 , you even have enough PCI-e connectors, which is important.

Personally, I'd stay with a dual fan configuration over single fan. I know you said you won't be OCing, but the extra bit of peace and quiet will be worth it, at least in my opinion.

As for physically fitting in the case, the case is 15x46x38 and the card is 4x26x13, so it should fit just fine, however, I think the case might have a drive cage in the way, though that is just speculation.

The site you listed has an MSI 660 for 20 Euros less (I think that is Euros). Why not choose that one?


Aren't the ASUS or the eVGA versions better for their money? Also, I was thinking about taking a 660 Ti but it was too expensive, so I just took a good 660.
January 9, 2013 8:37:55 PM

Personally I do not like reference cards but its up to you. If its cheap then go for it.
January 9, 2013 8:37:59 PM

AncientBro said:
I changed everything to what you said (except for the GPU as it was far too expensive), and now my PC has become 50 bucks more expensive, I don't wanna pay that difference! Isn't there a cheaper case and why can't I take the ASRock B75 as it is cheaper than the one you recommend me.


B75 is OK for a motherboard - I'm not the biggest fan of it because it really limits what hardware you're able to put into your system and it has ports that are meant for business systems that the average user hasn't used in well over a decade (parallel and serial). Most everything available now is USB anyways. There's less costly H77 motherboards available but H77 is a far better chip set.

As far as the video card goes - that Gigabyte is great but if you're operating on a limited budget here's a couple of less costly but still good options:
- http://azerty.nl/0-3921-538002/sapphire-radeon-hd7850-o...
- http://azerty.nl/0-3921-496894/xfx-radeon-hd-7870-core-...
January 9, 2013 8:39:01 PM

jonjonjon said:
i would get the superclocked between those 2 because its factory overclocked. those are both reference cards. they can get loud. watch the video below for the 670's too see what the reference blowers can sound like. the asus you had would be dead silent. something to consider.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-tes...


Because the ASUS one has 2 fans? I think I stick with the ASUS one then, I heard more things about eVGA being loud.
January 9, 2013 8:41:46 PM

sort of. the reference cards use the radial fan to blow all the hot air out the back of the case. because of that they can get loud. some other companies have after market fans that are even louder. the 2 asus cards 560ti and 660ti i've seen are both dead quite at full fan speed.
January 9, 2013 8:42:04 PM

g-unit1111 said:
B75 is OK for a motherboard - I'm not the biggest fan of it because it really limits what hardware you're able to put into your system and it has ports that are meant for business systems that the average user hasn't used in well over a decade (parallel and serial). Most everything available now is USB anyways. There's less costly H77 motherboards available but H77 is a far better chip set.

As far as the video card goes - that Gigabyte is great but if you're operating on a limited budget here's a couple of less costly but still good options:
- http://azerty.nl/0-3921-538002/sapphire-radeon-hd7850-o...
- http://azerty.nl/0-3921-496894/xfx-radeon-hd-7870-core-...


Sorry to say, but I am really a NVidia fan. I won't take a Radeon as I know how good GeForce is. Also, its just my personal opinion. So I will not take Radeon.
January 9, 2013 8:47:27 PM

g-unit1111 said:
B75 is OK for a motherboard - I'm not the biggest fan of it because it really limits what hardware you're able to put into your system and it has ports that are meant for business systems that the average user hasn't used in well over a decade (parallel and serial). Most everything available now is USB anyways. There's less costly H77 motherboards available but H77 is a far better chip set.

As far as the video card goes - that Gigabyte is great but if you're operating on a limited budget here's a couple of less costly but still good options:
- http://azerty.nl/0-3921-538002/sapphire-radeon-hd7850-o...
- http://azerty.nl/0-3921-496894/xfx-radeon-hd-7870-core-...


Ok, I have switched from the ASRock B75 Pro3to the ASRock ZH77 Pro3. Only a couple of bucks in price difference.
January 9, 2013 8:48:42 PM

tiny voices said:
I understand fanboyism but currently AMD beats nVidia on price/performance.

I have a gigabyte 7870 with 3 fans and it is dead quiet under full load and never gets hot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


In America, computer parts are much cheaper. 1 euro = 1.2 dollars
Although the euro is worth more, if a GPU costs 240 dollars in America, it costs 240 euro's in Europe. That kinda sucks.
January 9, 2013 9:02:14 PM

tiny voices said:
I understand fanboyism but currently AMD beats nVidia on price/performance.

I have a gigabyte 7870 with 3 fans and it is dead quiet under full load and never gets hot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

amd also has garbage drivers. 660's in general are cheaper and are pretty much even with the 7870.
January 9, 2013 10:54:10 PM

tiny voices said:
I understand fanboyism but currently AMD beats nVidia on price/performance.

I have a gigabyte 7870 with 3 fans and it is dead quiet under full load and never gets hot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I'm no fan boy - I'll go with whatever is fastest and provides the best value. Currently most AMD cards beat NVIDIA cards by a very narrow margin - plus are significantly less expensive than their NVIDIA counterparts - so that's usually what I recommend.
January 9, 2013 10:56:25 PM

I was saying that to OP's comment about liking nVidia better.
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