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Graphics Card advice for first build $200-$300

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November 25, 2012 8:39:17 PM

I am putting together my first build and I'm not sure how to judge the value of a few cards in my price range.

Build I was looking at:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
MB: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
PS: SeaSonic G Series SSR-550RM 550W 80 PLUS GOLD
HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA

The cards I was looking at are:

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 660 at $210 with a rebate
XFX Radeon HD 7870 GHz Black Edition $230 with a rebate
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 7870 at $240 with no rebate
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 660 Ti at $280 with a rebate

Games I've been playing are:
Borderlands 2
WoW
GW2
Dragon Age 2
Skyrim

I'm looking to play them at the best settings I can at 1920x1200. I'm not sure If I want to go above the $250 mark but if the 660 Ti would deliver enough boost above the 7870 I would. Any help would be appreciated on if the price points make enough sense to pay more to go up each step. While my budget would allow going up to the $280 mark I'd rather not pay more if it's not worth it. Also if you see any bottlenecks in my build please let me know. Thanks for any help.
November 25, 2012 9:21:00 PM

prototype18 said:


Borderland 2 is an Ati game 7950>660Ti

Those cards are pretty close to each other.BUT i would choose 660 Ti :) 


Isn't the 660 Ti better in Borderlands 2 due to Phsyx?
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a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2012 9:54:19 PM

prototype18 said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=647

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7950 at 280$ its just great.

But as u are playing

Skyrim --> 660 TI >7950

Dragon age 2 660 Ti >7950

GW 2 660Ti > 7950

About other games i dint find any review but as

Borderland 2 is an Ati game 7950>660Ti

Those cards are pretty close to each other.

BUT i would choose 660 Ti :) 


The above conflicts with tom's hardware 660ti review.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-...

@1920x1080

Batman: Arkham city
7950 wins by *18* FPS

Battlefield 3
660ti wins by 3 FPS

Crysis 2
7950 wins by 6 FPS

Metro 2033
7950 wins by 8 FPS

Dirt Showdown
7950 wins by 3 FPS

Max Payne 3
7950 wins by *14* FPS

Skyrim
7950 wins by 9 FPS

The 660ti manages to pull out a slim victory on BF3, but for the most part, the 7950 is ahead by a wide margin.
a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2012 10:06:20 PM

P.S., if you can stretch that budget to $360, a pair of 7850's leaves them all in the dust.
a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2012 10:11:16 PM

quilciri said:
The above conflicts with tom's hardware 660ti review.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-...

@1920x1080

Batman: Arkham city
7950 wins by *18* FPS

Battlefield 3
660ti wins by 3 FPS

Crysis 2
7950 wins by 6 FPS

Metro 2033
7950 wins by 8 FPS

Dirt Showdown
7950 wins by 3 FPS

Max Payne 3
7950 wins by *14* FPS

Skyrim
7950 wins by 9 FPS

The 660ti manages to pull out a slim victory on BF3, but for the most part, the 7950 is ahead by a wide margin.


Well read the games he wants to play not what tom benched.

And according to this

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-...

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/10/30/galaxy_geforc...

660 TI WINS in Skyrim ! ! !

Read better the post plz !
a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2012 10:38:40 PM

prototype18 said:
Well read the games he wants to play not what tom benched.

And according to this

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-...

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/10/30/galaxy_geforc...

660 TI WINS in Skyrim ! ! !

Read better the post plz !


Here's what I read...

For every Portal 2 you have a Skyrim, it seems. At 1920 the GTX 660 Ti actually does well for itself here, besting the 7900 series, but we know from experience that this is a CPU limited resolution. Cranking things up to 2560 and Ultra quality sends the GTX 660 Ti through the floor in a very bad way, pushing it well below even the 7870, never mind the 7900 series.

Calling the Anandtech review better than the tom'shardware review is an exercise in foolishness. Regardless of what review you want to believe, they all say the same thing in one regard...as the resolution goes up, the 7950 flat out wins. Gaming sin't gonna stay @ 1920 for much longer.
a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2012 10:42:40 PM

The OP is gaming at 1920x1200. Why the heck would u read that part of the bench that he isnt using.

Read better sir !
a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2012 10:48:21 PM

prototype18 said:
The OP is gaming at 1920x1200. Why the heck would u read that part of the bench that he isnt using.

Read better sir !


I read the whole thing, and took the whole meaning. You only took part of it's meaning. According to the very review you used the 7950 is *at least* as good as the 660ti at the res the OP is playing at right now, and *better* than the 660ti at resolution he will be using in the future.

Your choosing to believe the review that backs up your opinion and ignore others shows your bias. (especially the review of the site you're posting on, lol). Anandtech called the two cards a tie, tom's called a win for the 7950. In a non-biased world, that tilts in the 7950's favor, even at 1920.
a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2012 10:52:33 PM

Lol, even your Anandtech review reccommends the 7950...did you forget to read the conclusion?

Here's the quote...

"On the other hand due to the constant flip-flopping of the GTX 660 Ti and 7950 on our benchmarks there is no sure-fire recommendation to hand down there. If we had to pick something, on a pure performance-per-dollar basis the 7950 looks good both now and in the future; in particular we suspect it’s going to weather newer games better than the GTX 660 Ti and its relatively narrow memory bus."
a b U Graphics card
November 25, 2012 10:55:04 PM

In the future he will Upgr the Card too.

So he gave us a list of the games he is going to play.

He didnt mention Bf3/ Crysis 2 etc etc.

So i found bench for the games he wanted to not other games.

Some days ago there was a similiar thread where i wanted to help a guy out.

He choosed to buy a 660 (non TI) vs 7950 only cuz he wanted Physx and Vsync (The game that he played the most was better with Physx so he decided to do that)

So never tell someone things he dont want to know.
a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2012 12:52:08 AM

prototype18 said:

So never tell someone things he dont want to know.


How fox news of you.
a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2012 6:27:23 AM

quilciri said:
How fox news of you.


Well NOT from US so Fox was never heard ;)  Instead you got some of it !

And to end it here you are giving verdict based on bench of other games.You dont have to do that as long as the OP asked you specific games and his current resolution is 1920x1200.

He didnt mention any upgrade of his current monitors and future is future . We change cards every 2-3 years even 1 so that is not a problem.

That Gtx 660 Ti will suffice him for what he is asking to !
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