Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

Spend money on GPU or CPU for gaming?

Last response: in Graphics & Displays
Share
November 26, 2012 12:36:52 PM

Hi all,

Right now I'm looking at an i5-3570k and either a gtx 650 or radeon 7750, so my budget is approx $300-320

For gaming, should I stick with this, or would it make more sense to get a less expensive cpu and a more expensive graphics card?

Can I do any better-performance wise-than the above?


a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 12:48:42 PM

@Proto An i3? Might as well get the 965 BE.

@OP I'd say get the 965 BE. With the money saved from that, get a 7850/7870.
m
0
l
Related resources
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 12:51:14 PM

Well that better than 965 Be. He has Upgrade possibility . And he is looking to i5 3570K that means he has intel mobo not AMD one. So he would have to buy a new mobo. I3 is a beast at gaming so it will suffice him.
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 1:00:43 PM

well I haven't purchased a mobo yet, either. I was going to get a gigabyte z77 for $100

m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 1:04:45 PM

Asrock Extreme 4 Z77 . A great mobo for 104 $

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pzqT

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/677?vs=102

Considering tha P4 is a quad core should be really faster than I3. But it doesnt . And in games a review from tom's conluded that even the intel bottom line can surpass AMD in gaming. So get the I3 . Not worth getting the P4 now.

With I3 now you can add I5 later while with P4 u cant.

I5 cant be beaten by any AMD CPU so just go for it
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 1:21:45 PM

It's all about balance!

i5-3470 with either GTX 660, Radeon 7850 or Radeon 7870 would be the best choice.
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 1:27:25 PM

lostgamer_03 said:
It's all about balance!

i5-3470 with either GTX 660, Radeon 7850 or Radeon 7870 would be the best choice.



Well he wanted to stay withing budget. And I3 isnt going to Bneck that 7870 i linked. So he dont need to spen money on that CPU . He would be better getting the 3570K than I5 3470.

Look my sig. I can max out any game with 60+ Fps except Bf 3 where i get 50+ Fps .My Cpu costed 20$ so that I3 its te best for him as he wants gaming !
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 1:50:24 PM

Xfx 7870 cnfc gpu 189.99 @ ncix
AMD 965 be cpu 79.99 @ ncix
Asrock 970 rxtreme3 mobo 69.99 @ newegg

You didnt mention you needed mobo with original budget if thats the case you can downgrade the gputo a 7850 and stay in budget.

Intel cpu's may "bench" higher consitently but that doesnt mean amd cpu's cant game. The above build gives solid performance for price and wont force you to buy and even lower end gpu to stay in budget.
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 1:51:22 PM

Well if he decides to get I5 3570 he would have to change the mobo .So why not buy it now.

Also OP said he was going to get a z77 100$ mobo.

So lets wait his response of what he needs.
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 1:57:39 PM

Look at my sig, I'm having a core i3 - 3220 and Asus GTX 660 - All I can say is I'm more than happy with this rig and can handle any game that I throw at it!

I agree with prototype18 , i3 is a beast at gaming and you can buy an i5 in the future when its time for upgrading.
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 1:58:54 PM

we have different suggestions here, let the OP decide now :) 
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 2:07:37 PM

prototype18 said:
Well he wanted to stay withing budget. And I3 isnt going to Bneck that 7870 i linked. So he dont need to spen money on that CPU . He would be better getting the 3570K than I5 3470.

Look my sig. I can max out any game with 60+ Fps except Bf 3 where i get 50+ Fps .My Cpu costed 20$ so that I3 its te best for him as he wants gaming !


You can't be getting 50+ fps? I got i5-3570 and GTX 660, I owned GTX 560 ti as well until it died at the GTX 660 and GTX 650 launch.

I had it overclocked to 1020 mHz on the core and 1250 mHz at memory and even with that overclock I didn't get 50+ fps. Same goes for my GTX 660 right now, it's 45-55 fps.
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 2:08:01 PM

coolermaster_72: Do you overclock that setup at all?

m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 2:13:06 PM

lostgamer_03 said:
You can't be getting 50+ fps? I got i5-3570 and GTX 660, I owned GTX 560 ti as well until it died at the GTX 660 and GTX 650 launch.

I had it overclocked to 1020 mHz on the core and 1250 mHz at memory and even with that overclock I didn't get 50+ fps. Same goes for my GTX 660 right now, it's 45-55 fps.


I can make a video if u want. Check on you tube. A 7770 can ultra Bf3
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 2:14:04 PM

transfan said:
coolermaster_72: Do you overclock that setup at all?


He has a beast PC. He dsnt need to.Later he will need to do that to the GPU
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 2:16:21 PM

prototype18 said:
I can make a video if u want. Check on you tube. A 7770 can ultra Bf3


on a 720 p resolution maybe, not on 1080p.
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 2:18:04 PM

dheeraj9933 said:
@prototype
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

u gave him an i3 3220, he is probably not going to overclock, so an H77 mobo would make more sense and he could save some more money
and maybe buy a PSU, he hasn't told anything about it yet.


A h77 isn't even needed. A b75 could do just as good, and is so cheap. :) 
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2012 2:20:31 PM

lostgamer_03 said:
A h77 isn't even needed. A b75 could do just as good, and is so cheap. :) 

yea that would go too
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 2:30:51 PM

As i said he wanted to go with I5. He cant get the K series with such mobos.

So why not.

Thats what i did too.

I got this 20$ CPU and now saving to get I5 3570 K
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 2:58:33 PM

What's a good power supply for the 7870?
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 3:59:45 PM

A balanced approach is probably the best, your processor is what handles all your games logic, and passes instructions to your GPU. So regardless of how powerful your GPU is it can only process as many instructions as your processor throws at it. If all your using it for is gaming an i5 would be optimal, but I wouldn't do anything less than a 7770 for a graphics card.
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 4:12:49 PM

hdeezie, that completely contradicts what most of the others have been saying so far.

I am so confused!
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2012 4:19:27 PM

that is true but games are not so much logical(cpu dependent) as they are graphical(gpu dependent).
an i3 will give u an awesone gaming performance, just google it,
an i3+7850/7870 gets my vote anyday!
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 4:29:39 PM

So using the 3220 & 7870, I'm coming up with about $650-$700 for a system, not including the monitor. Does this sound right? Is this the best gaming pc I could make for that amount?

m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
November 26, 2012 4:34:40 PM

yup
m
0
l
a c 85 U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
a c 93 à CPUs
November 26, 2012 5:06:29 PM

Here's the thing. Rough rule of thumb is to spend twice on the GPU what you do on the CPU. For the 3220 and 7870, you hit it on the head. Go with it.
m
0
l
a c 105 U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 5:17:14 PM

kinda scanned this thread but sounds like you are putting a price on the motherboard n( $100 ) and thinking because it costs $100 it has to be good. You can shave $25 off and still have a good" motherboard freeing up a few bucks for a better card or processor. Look for something that suits your needs nothing more. Why pay for stuff you will never use ?

processor, buy a true quad core. Don't be afraid to look at "last gen" products. ( 2500 for example and a z68 mobo ) might end up saving you a little more money to put towards graphics. You'll never know the difference between IB and SB.

I didn't read the monitor size and resolution but if you're gaming in DX11 at 1600 res or above I would head for a 2gig card without compromise.
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 5:26:36 PM

Keep in mind that a CPU or motherboard are harder to replace compared to a video card. So my recommendation would be to get an i5 with a good mobo and get a cheaper card for now. Save some money to get a better graphics card in a few months or something. But I don't know, if you like to play with hardware a lot maybe you don't mind replacing the CPU or mobo along the way. But it's a dilemma: with an i3 + 7870 you get better gaming performance right now, but with an i5 + weaker card you get a more "future proof" system (I know I shouldn't use that term) and you only have the card to replace.
m
0
l
a c 105 U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 5:32:36 PM

there is no future proof. these processors ( sockets ) are dead next year. Intel has a new socket coming out.
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 6:27:44 PM

swifty_morgan said:
there is no future proof. these processors ( sockets ) are dead next year. Intel has a new socket coming out.


Next year you can pickup a 3770k or 3570k for dirt cheap. So it's future proofed in a way.

The i3 3220 will destroy any game you throw at it for the next year or two.
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 6:30:10 PM

Best budget B75 mobo would be Asrock's B75 Pro 3, ATX, room for expansion, and unlike mATX your parts can actually breathe. $75 or so.

And a 3570K or 3770K will never ever be dirt cheap. Intel's parts don't get cheaper. They get more expensive as time goes on and they are replaced even further. Look at i5 2500K, its not cheap is it?

As for the i3, it will do, but Crysis 3 and GTA 5, Metro Last Light, (among others) will all use quads if you have it.
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 6:37:05 PM

Still on I3 for now . Consider my post up in the thread. You will do the best thing you can within your budget.

And that socket (1155) is way future proof. From I3 to I5/I7 . So nothing to worry !
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 6:40:22 PM

prototype18 said:
Still on I3 for now . Consider my post up in the thread. You will do the best thing you can within your budget.

And that socket (1155) is way future proof. From I3 to I5/I7 . So nothing to worry !


Sort of future proof, 1150 is next year, then 1150 (probably) for Broadwell, then 1145 or something for Skylake. Upgrading withing sockets is rather pointless when there is always something faster and shinier on the horizon.
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 6:43:54 PM

Well if that is your point of view , we would never choose a PC ase they upgrade parts everyday.
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 6:46:00 PM

prototype18 said:
Well if that is your point of view , we would never choose a PC ase they upgrade parts everyday.


No, you buy parts now and upgrade if required. Forget futureproofing, just buy the best you can afford right now.
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 6:53:40 PM

Well the best balance he can get now its I3 and 7870.

So why should he get an I5 vs I3 when he is going to game ?

Gaming depends on GPU not CPU. So get the I3 that can beat every single game and a beast GPU like 7870.

He can always add later I5/I7. No point of getting I5 and a cheap GPU if he is going to game.
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 26, 2012 7:15:57 PM

Wanted to throw in I got an I5 2300 for 120$ off Amazon...
m
0
l
November 26, 2012 7:17:13 PM

prototype18 said:
Well the best balance he can get now its I3 and 7870.

So why should he get an I5 vs I3 when he is going to game ?

Gaming depends on GPU not CPU. So get the I3 that can beat every single game and a beast GPU like 7870.

He can always add later I5/I7. No point of getting I5 and a cheap GPU if he is going to game.


Skyrim and Starcraft beg to differ. Gaming depends upon a balanced CPU and GPU setup.
m
0
l
November 27, 2012 12:06:36 AM

Hate to open a can of worms, but should I get a cpu cooler as well?

m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 27, 2012 12:10:44 AM

Well if you go with 965 Be/I5 K series you should cuz u would need to OC it.

With I3 there is no need too.

m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
November 27, 2012 5:49:02 AM

transfan said:
Hate to open a can of worms, but should I get a cpu cooler as well?


the thing i think is weird is that people but an expensive k series processor,
more expersive motherboard, a better cooler, just so they can get a little more performance from the processor for "FREE"

an i3 3220 with stock cooler
a b75 mobo
a 7870 GPU
IS the best gaming setup for ur budget.
most games today are GPU dependent, u can google it, i3 vs i5 gaming performance.
So ........u've got a GREAT gpu,
and for the cpu, i can assure u it is an awesome cpu, and will last until next gen consoles come out with the xbox having a quad processor.
then u can change ur cpu for a quad core, and it WILL be better than the i5 too!!
bcoz it is not even released yet!! so dont go with an i5 and low end GPU, that will give u awful gaming compared to an
i3+7870.
and for ur orignal question - no if u get an i3 dont get a different cooler, stock is just fine :) 
m
0
l
November 27, 2012 1:29:27 PM

and the b75 will let me upgrade to an i5 or i7 in the future?

m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
a b à CPUs
November 27, 2012 1:36:28 PM

Will let you do that but you cant OC. U need Z77 | Z68 | P67 to OC
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
November 27, 2012 2:37:10 PM

transfan said:
and the b75 will let me upgrade to an i5 or i7 in the future?



this is probably wayyyy, in the future but i dont think upgrading to an i7 for gaming will be THAT good,
even after the next gen xbox comes out. Bcoz that one is a quad core too!

anyway put most simply, lga 1155 is the socket for 2nd an 3rd gen i series. if that is infact futureproofing.
but y r u worried anyway an i3 is almost as good as an 15 in gaming, u've got ur setup and it is great for gaming
m
0
l
a b U Graphics card
November 27, 2012 3:15:29 PM

I agree with dheeraj an i3 3220 can at max be 15 fps behind an i5 and that's when using a hd 7970.And this gap can shrink by 66% if you use cards like 660 or 7870.
However you may consider this 660 ti,as the price is very appealing @ $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
m
0
l
!