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January 10, 2013 4:22:39 PM

Hi all

I'm sure there are some very obvious mistakes in the build below so any advice gratefully received. Effectively it will not be used for editing, etc, mainly gaming and random home use multitasking, as well as the odd bit of work here and there (but will be mainly using my laptop for office based stuff).



Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H S1155 Intel Z77 DDR3 ATX (seems fairly standard, lots of expansion ports, USB3, etc)
Chip: Intel Core i5-3570K S1155 3.4GHz 6MB (won't be editing, etc, so don't need the extra threading of an i7)
GPU: 2gb GeForce GTX 670 (figured this was best bang for my buck at the moment, 680 doesn't seem worth it and 660 Ti is overpriced - contemplating waiting the rumoured 4 months for the 700 series but not sure I can be bothered)
Ram: Generic, 2x4GB (contemplating 4x4GB as RAM is so cheap)

Onboard sound, general BD writer, cheap 1TB HD at 7200rpm, 700W power supply, W7 64-bit
January 10, 2013 6:22:46 PM

What games are you going to play, exactly? At what resolution? Desired FPS rate?
January 10, 2013 6:44:39 PM

Quote:
Ram: Generic, 2x4GB (contemplating 4x4GB as RAM is so cheap)


Not needed. RAM is not the place to blow tons of money on a build. What is your budget? I could suggest parts if I knew that.
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January 10, 2013 6:47:28 PM

total budget and country? do you plan on overclocking? do you need an os or monitor?
January 10, 2013 6:57:31 PM

The 7970 will murder the 670 at a higher res, and about the same price.
January 10, 2013 7:06:20 PM

it also has high frame latency and stuttering because amd's drivers are horrible.
January 10, 2013 7:10:18 PM

No they aren't lol. Stuttering is limited to crossfire.
January 10, 2013 7:21:16 PM

Basing off of one review is completely idiotic.
January 10, 2013 7:24:27 PM

blake1243 said:
Basing off of one review is completely idiotic.


Please give us one that says otherwise.
January 10, 2013 7:25:53 PM

If he is only playing at 1080p the gtx 670 (for the $350 price point) is the way to go imo. AMDs only really start to shine at 1600p+ and multi-monitor.
January 10, 2013 7:28:19 PM

amd actually confirmed there is a problem. they are still using an the old memory management system from the 6000 series. so the memory management isnt optimized for GCN. a year after GCN was released and they still haven't updated it. good luck waiting on amd to fix it.

http://techreport.com/news/24136/driver-software-to-be-...
January 10, 2013 7:46:41 PM

Hi all thanks for the replies. Absolute max budget around the £900 mark, I'm in the UK. Don't need monitor, OS, keyboard or anything, just need the machine. Build above comes in around £840 - if i can get away without spending any more I'd like to do so.

I mainly play strategy games - Xcom being a huge favourite at the mo, most of my plan is tryin to future-proof as much as possible, but I realise that's easier as I don't always play the most graphically intensive games. I would like the option to play anything that takes my fancy though - especially slightly more exploratory RPGs like skyrim etc. Big draws for me in the next year will be Sim City and Rome 2 Total War on as high graphics setting as I possibly can.

RAM is so cheap here at the mo that the difference between 8gb an 9gb is less than £30.
January 10, 2013 7:48:06 PM

Also, re: the question about overclocking - I have done so previously, and am happy to do so again - but I'm not exactly an advanced overclocker.
January 10, 2013 7:56:54 PM

no need to be an advanced overclocker to make use of overclocking. you can get it to 4.2GHz by pretty much only changing the multiplier to 42. no voltage changes required.

i would look at something like this. with an ssd. did you say you want a blu ray writer?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£73.19 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£34.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.56 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£70.97 @ Dabs)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (£299.60 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.98 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Sony BD-5750H Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (£58.19 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £881.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-10 21:57 GMT+0000)
January 10, 2013 8:01:00 PM

Brilliant, thank you! do you think the power supply will be enough? I'd assumed I'd need a touch more - perhaps up to 700.

I take it the SSD is recommended for the OS?

forgot to say that what I found above includes CPU cooler, an extra couple of case fans, that sort of thing.

Amazing that Amazon seems cheapest for RAM.

I also hasn't seen partpicker before, so thanks for that, really helpful
January 10, 2013 8:33:27 PM

you would only need 700 watts if you plan on getting 2 670's in sli otherwise 550 will be plenty. if you want to overclock you will need a better cpu cooler then the stock intel one. that's why i added the evo. you can use the stock intel one that comes with cpu for now and buy a better one later when you overclock.

yea the ssd is for the os and programs and the 1TB drive is for storage or games depending how many you have. ssd's make a huge difference and are well worth it if you can afford them.
January 10, 2013 8:46:50 PM

Thanks - I've always preferred extra cpu and case cooling anyway, even if I don't necessarily technically need it - wife is paranoid about fires so this is one way of reassuring her. Yep, a tiny fan convinces her the house won't burn down. Madness. :sarcastic: 

Thanks so much for your detailed responses.
January 10, 2013 9:13:57 PM

The 670 is not worth the extra price over a 660 ti, especially an over-clocked model of the 660 ti.
January 10, 2013 9:22:09 PM

i disagree. the extra memory bandwidth is worth it. plus i could say the same thing about a regular 660 compared to the 660ti.

when people say an overclocked 660ti is as good as a 670 that makes no sense unless of course a 670 doesn't overclock(which is does). you can only compare a overclocked 660ti to a overclocked 670. apples to apples.
January 13, 2013 7:24:00 AM

Thanks all, by the way. Really helpful. Last question: given previous experiences, in terms of price/benefit would it be worth waiting for the 700 series? If i got the 670 I imagine I'd upgrade to an 800 series in 18 months or so, but would it make more financial sense to go for the 700 series followed by the 900? Obviously we can't predict the future perfectly.

What normally happens to the price of a previous series when the next comes out? In other words - might it be worth waiting for the 700 series so I can buy a 670 more cheaply?
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