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.... to build a new DSLR!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0507/05071902kmsony.asp

Regards,
Andi

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Andreas Buchner wrote:
> ... to build a new DSLR!
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0507/05071902kmsony.asp

Pity if it won't be based on the 4/3 system. Adding IS to a 4/3 body
would have been a significant feather in their cap.

Maybe this will mark the first DSLRs with EVF and movies, though?

David

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Andreas Buchner wrote:
> ... to build a new DSLR!
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0507/05071902kmsony.asp

This is excellent news for KM, not such great news for Olympus and
Pentax. Everyone knew that Sony was looking for a way to enter the D-SLR
market, but without a line of lenses and accessories, the only way was
for them to partner with someone.

Having at least three real competitors in a market is essential for any
real competition.

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>This is excellent news for KM, not such great news for
>Olympus and Pentax.

Olympus have already shacked up with Panasonic, Kodak and Sanyo (and
maybe Fuji..). So Pentax seems the one left outside all alone..

But markets do strange things - we all know who won out of Beta and
VHS, and it wasn't the technically superior format.. Personally I hope
and pray that we end up with a healthy market of several competing
brands in each of the 3 formats - full-frame, aps-c, and 4/3...



(I hope *this* post ends up as reply, rather than a new post - Google
seems to be having a hiccup..)

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(from other thread..)
>I don't think either Sony or Nikon will want to stop doing
>business in sensors.

Nikon certainly won't, but if Sony and KM want to try to take over a
lot of Nikon's market, what better way to do it? And you can be sure
that any major advances in the sony sensors will take a l-o-o-n-g time
to flow over to competing Nikon cameras..

Or maybe Sony have their eyes on just buying Nikon in the longer
term....

(O:

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Chrlz wrote:

> Or maybe Sony have their eyes on just buying Nikon in the longer
> term....

I always though that that would be what Sony would want to do. With KM,
they're resigned to be in third place for a very long time.

At least Sony didn't go over to 4:3, that would have been a disaster.

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"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> Chrlz wrote:
>
>> Or maybe Sony have their eyes on just buying Nikon in the longer
>> term....
>
> I always though that that would be what Sony would want to do. With KM,
> they're resigned to be in third place for a very long time.
>
> At least Sony didn't go over to 4:3, that would have been a disaster.

I see 4:3 as "digital APS"

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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:44:41 -0400, Darrell wrote:
> > At least Sony didn't go over to 4:3, that would have been a disaster.
>
> I see 4:3 as "digital APS"

Does this mean yes or no?

yes, analog APS was a disaster, and digital 4:3 is a disaster, too

or no, APS has a market share of its own, and 4:3 will succeed, too.

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"Martin Trautmann" <t-use@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:44:41 -0400, Darrell wrote:
>> > At least Sony didn't go over to 4:3, that would have been a disaster.
>>
>> I see 4:3 as "digital APS"
>
> Does this mean yes or no?
>
> yes, analog APS was a disaster, and digital 4:3 is a disaster, too
>
> or no, APS has a market share of its own, and 4:3 will succeed, too.

You mean like Alpha-scan (Matsushita/Panasonic first try), Cartivision
(RCA), VCord-II (Sanyo), UMatic (JVC), and Beta (Sony) did in the VCR arena?
I vote "disaster" on 4:3...the world doesn't need 50 competing formats for
no other reason than it is technologically possible...right now that is the
situation with flash memory formats.

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In article <lxcr365h81ec$.19uih5guw2gf1$.dlg@40tude.net>, Andreas
Buchner <anbucx-nus@yahoo.de> wrote:

> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0507/05071902kmsony.asp

Great, two clueless companies team up together...

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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:28:10 -0400, george wrote:
> I vote "disaster" on 4:3...the world doesn't need 50 competing formats for
> no other reason than it is technologically possible...

Hm - turning the words in your mouth, you say

- Canon/Nikon/Minolta/Sigma/Pentax bajonetts are a disaster,
offering many competing lense bayonet formats, while
- 4:3 is an 'open standard' and thus much better?

I still wonder about this definition of an open standard, where no
details are open anywhere. www.fourthirds.org does not even provide a
contact address. ok - you might ask Olympus directly. I tried, without
success.

I'd really welcome some kind of 'open' standard, as in 'open source' or
as it was somehow for Pentax-K. However, I'm not surprised that Olympus
fails that miserably when claims and fact are that far apart.

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george wrote:

> I vote "disaster" on 4:3...

It is the DIVX of the 21st century, unless a miracle occurs. Essentially
0% market share in D-SLRs so far, and huge technological and marketing
hurdles to overcome.

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"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> george wrote:
>
>> I vote "disaster" on 4:3...
>
> It is the DIVX of the 21st century, unless a miracle occurs. Essentially
> 0% market share in D-SLRs so far, and huge technological and marketing
> hurdles to overcome.

Not the least of which is that Canon/Nikon digital sales are far outpacing
4:3
which gets back to the old "installed base" hurdle. Oops, I think 4:3
caught its
toe on the last one...

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Randall Ainsworth <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote:

>In article <lxcr365h81ec$.19uih5guw2gf1$.dlg@40tude.net>, Andreas
>Buchner <anbucx-nus@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0507/05071902kmsony.asp
>
>Great, two clueless companies team up together...


Exactly.

Konica Minolta and Sony will go together like ...


....




....



Sigma and Foveon.

;-)

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"Andreas Buchner" <anbucx-nus@yahoo.de> wrote in message
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> ... to build a new DSLR!
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0507/05071902kmsony.asp
>
> Regards,
> Andi

Let's hope that by the time the new DSLR appears, it won't have become the
Betamax of the digital camera universe-- technically sound, but limited and
incompatible with everything else. Sony is notorious for following its own
path: remember the 3-inch floppy disk drive?

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At least it's not 4/3 ...

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