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January 11, 2013 9:53:17 PM

I would like to know how good this gaming build would be, would like some suggestions/help on my it. (Basically, it's my last revision till ordering).

Approximate Purchase Date: No later than 14th of this month, probably late tomorrow, early Sunday.(Taking much advantage of the Newegg deal)
Budget Range: $570 Before rebates (Really would NOT like to go higher)
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Web surfing, college
Parts Not Required: OS, Optical Drive (Monitor and all peripherals not in this budget)
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon or Newegg(Will make an exception for NXIC if the deal is good
Country: United States
Parts Preferences: As long as it's quality and within budget
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: not at all
Monitor Resolution: 1600 x 900 20"


Parts list: Or if you prefer: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wQrg
CPU
Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor $109.99 @ NCIX w/ saving code
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75429&vpn=BX80637I3322...

mobo
ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory $43.99 (I had cheaper but it went out of stock..)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055LGG3Y/?tag=pcpapi-20

Storage
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $64.99 w/ promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card
Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card $179.99 -$15 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99 W/ promo code (60$ w/o code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply
Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $59.99 (AnandTech Editors' Choice Award )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cost: $622.73 -$54 in promos Total= 568.73 before rebate.

Additional Comments:
I want to max out my games with smooth, high FPS. At the very least 30+ but preferably 60 fps.
Games I will be playing: Source games(Team Fortress2, L4D2,Etc) Dungeon Defenders, Far Cry 3, The Old Republic, WoW, Lara Croft reboot, Dirt series, Portal 2.
I would also like to play future games (Such as Lara Croft)with reasonable FPS and good settings, I realize this is entirely unpredictable.
At 1600 x 900 I imagine I could get good frames now and in the future.

A few questions:
Is this PSU good enough? It seemed like it had enough wattage and good 12v amps. Other PSUs I was considering:

Antec VP-450 $42.98 after shipping (This one is cheaper and saves me money, but not sure on the quality of it.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-550 $70 (Stretches my budget but is modular and a higher watt, unsure of quality. I have heard some good things about it though.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Is my Motherboard good enough? From what I've read, H77 seems to be the next best, plus is also has USB3.0 front ports which my case requires.

I would really like some help in reducing my costs/improving this build. Or just some input and opinions on how it would perform. The PSU and mobo are still a pretty confusing toss-up for me.
January 11, 2013 10:14:14 PM

If you want a bit better gaming performance i would go with a amd fx-6300 six core @ 3.5 (4.1 turbo) $130 on amazon and 140 on newegg.
then you would need a new motherboard which you can get a bit better one from newegg open boxed (I had no problems with my open box purchase) the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
for $67
last of all corsair builder series cx500w is on sale on newegg for 49.99 w/ 20 dollar mail in rebate so you would be getting that for $30. It's 80 plus bronze certified, 500W continuous power, and a a single 12v rail which is good for gaming.

hope this helped it will end up being around the same price and you will be getting a bit better fps in your games :D 
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January 11, 2013 10:21:06 PM

a 3220 is better for gaming the a 6300 because of the single threaded performance. cheaper better memory. samsung hdd are made by seagate now anyway. and a much better video card.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $605.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-11 19:20 EST-0500)
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January 11, 2013 11:22:28 PM

So the 3220 is the better performing? I've always heard that even though the 6-core AMDs looked nice.
That's also good looking card, is it that much better than a 7850? And would the PSU be able to handle it?
Also, on the RAM, it looks like a very nice find with a very good price.
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January 12, 2013 1:11:06 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $575.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-11 22:10 EST-0500)

some changes but made prices go a bit lower
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January 12, 2013 1:35:04 AM

i have a spinpoint f3 its one of the worst hdd's i have ever bought yeah its fast enough but it is so noisy even at idle, it was ok at first but it is noiser than the 4 120mm and 2 140mm fans running on low combined. i hate samsung magnetic drives they are always noisy after a while, i bought a 5400 rpm drive for my htpc for the kids its noisy as sh!it too. got 2 other wd blue drives in my personal htpc in my bedroom, silence! i love samsung gear but every magnetic drive i have ever got of them has been sh!t and i will never get one again even if they sold there tech to seagate. on a side note i have a samsung 830 ssd its nice though!
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January 12, 2013 1:41:22 AM

jonjonjon said:
a 3220 is better for gaming the a 6300 because of the single threaded performance. cheaper better memory. samsung hdd are made by seagate now anyway. and a much better video card.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $605.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-11 19:20 EST-0500)


So you are saying that a dual core that uses dual thread tech is better than a six core single threaded... some math here just doesn't quite add up...
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January 12, 2013 1:42:15 AM

just a thought too if you have another computer with an optical drive you can borrow during the install process you can do away with that too cos you rarely need it after you have done your initial install of windows. you can get games online, all the drivers you need online, unless its for ripping movies i think they are a waste of time personally
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January 12, 2013 1:46:18 AM

ikes9711 said:
So you are saying that a dual core that uses dual thread tech is better than a six core single threaded... some math here just doesn't quite add up...

yeah the 6300 is not a fully true 6 core it shares resources just like the 8 core amds arent true 8 cores, intel gets more stuff done per clock cycle and lets face it most software isnt really written that well therefore not well optimised well for muliple cores. thats why the i7's arent any quicker than the i5's for games. i would take the i3 any day for gaming
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January 12, 2013 1:56:42 AM

@Jasont78 I do have an optical drive I ripped off an Acer from '07.
And if the Samsung is a bad HDD, Newegg also has a WD Black for about $5 more, however it's only 500 GB. (Which I could probably live with)

As far as the Intel vs AMD, I don't know much about it. Except that many say the i3 would be a better budget gaming CPU and they are more efficient in terms of wattage. (It also helps that it's at a nice price point for me)
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January 12, 2013 1:58:19 AM

baker72 said:
@Jasont78 I do have an optical drive I ripped off an Acer from '07.
And if the Samsung is a bad HDD, Newegg also has a WD Black for about $5 more, however it's only 500 GB. (Which I could probably live with)

As far as the Intel vs AMD, I don't know much about it. Except that many say the i3 would be a better budget gaming CPU and they are more efficient in terms of wattage. (It also helps that it's at a nice price point for me)

just get the wd blue and get a ssd when money permits
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