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January 12, 2013 8:06:26 AM

Hey guys. so, I am building my first home built computer, ordering all the parts at once. Prior to a few months ago I knew little to nothing about pc components. So after a lot of homework and a bit of research (Visitng Tomshardware.com a few trillion times) I have come up with a list of components for this baby. However I am having a bit of trouble, with processors mainly. I am torn between the i5 2500k and the i7 3770k. I love the price of the i5 but just can't stop feeling safer with the i7. Am I crazy? I just seem to keep looping back around to the question of is the 2500k going to be enough for me to have the very best that I can have for the money. So, below I have included a layout of all of my parts, minus cold cathodes, keyboard and such. Please, please, let me know what you think and feel free to stop me from buying junk if you have had or heard about someone having a bad experience with any of the following. Thank you in advance for sharing your knowledge and experience with an enthusiastic amateur.


:hello:  RAM:
Corsair Corsair Vengeance Green 16GB DDR3 1600 MHz Desktop Memory CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9G http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009VV5DHY/ref=ox_sc_a...]

:hello:  POWER SUPPLY
Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 750 Watt ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Bronze (TX750) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MYFODI/ref=ox_sc_a...]
:hello:  HEATSINK
Cooler Master V8 - CPU Cooler with 8 Heat Pipes and Mirror-Finished Base (RR-UV8-XBU1-GP) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001KUV2KQ/ref=ox_sc_a...]

:hello:  MOTHERBOARD
AS Rock LGA1155 DDR3 SATA3 USB3.0 Quad CrossFireX and Quad SLI A GbE ATX Motherboard Z77 EXTREME4 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KTY4A6/ref=ox_sc_a...]

:hello:  SSD
Samsung Electronics Samsung 840 Series Solid State Drive (SSD) with Desktop and Notebook Installation Kit 120 sata_6_0_gb 2.5-Inch MZ-7TD120KW http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009NHAFBA/ref=ox_sc_a...]

:hello:  VIDEO CARD
EVGA GeForce GTX670 FTW 2048MB GDDR5 256bit, Dual Dual-Link DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, 4-Way SLI Ready Graphics Card Graphics Cards 02G-P4-2678-KR http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0083Y6MV6/ref=ox_sc_a...]

:hello:  DISK DRIVE
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057FRTPW/ref=ox_sc_a...]

:hello:  CASE
Corsair Vengeance Series Military Green C70 Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007S02GLQ/ref=ox_sc_a...]

:hello:  HDD
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036Q7MV0/ref=ox_sc_a...]


Thanks again, those of you that scrolled down this list. :)  And the link function just wouldn't work for me.

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a b B Homebuilt system
January 12, 2013 8:48:14 AM

Hi. Welcome to Toms.

let me jump right in...

CPU. - Why not get an I5 3570K with that Z77 baord you have chosen?
The 2500K with that board will have you lose 2 x USB3 ports and PCI-e 3.0 functionality(not so important mind you.) The I5 3570K is also faster per clock than the 2500K, although it runs hotter. The I7 would be totally not worth it as the only dif is Hyperthreading and some cache(no help in gaming).

RAM - You may want to consider low profile vengeance. Gives you more space for different coolers, that may even hinder you from using the V8.

PSU - 750w is a bit of an overkill. I would say get The TX650 v2. Thats mroe than enough power already.

Heatsink - V8s suck for the price IMO, a Hyper 212 EVO is slightly weaker but like a quarter of the price. The best air cooler in my opinion is the Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E extreme Should be the same price as the V8 or close to it.

Mobo : Perfect.

SSD - If you can afford the 840 Pro version, rather get that one, the 840 has second rate NAND flash.

GPU - You MAY want to consider looking at an HD7970. They are considerably faster than the GTX670 and are priced similarly.

Case : Awesome case, have worked with them, but slightly expensive.
January 12, 2013 10:07:51 AM

Thanks I really appreciate the input. I will certainly look into the 3570k. I do like the look of it. Honestly with the v8 heatsink, it was all about the looks, I won't lie. For the price of the Silver Arrow heatsink, I feel like I should just go with the corsair h80 series closed loop liquid cooling, no? I will also look into the pro840 SSD, but the budget is pretty strict at where it is currently at. As for the hd7970, I will make sure I check some benchmarks, but so far I prefer Nvidia. Perhaps the "670 FTW edition" Kicks it up a notch to compete with the 7970? And about the case, thanks it's actually a little cheaper than ther thermaltake g10 I was originally going to go with. I just worry I will have to replace the acrylic side.... Hate those fan mounts already. Anyway, thanks again, I am going to wait and hopefully see some more replies before making a final decision. :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
January 12, 2013 10:46:00 AM

CataClysm87 said:
Thanks I really appreciate the input. I will certainly look into the 3570k. I do like the look of it. Honestly with the v8 heatsink, it was all about the looks, I won't lie. For the price of the Silver Arrow heatsink, I feel like I should just go with the corsair h80 series closed loop liquid cooling, no? I will also look into the pro840 SSD, but the budget is pretty strict at where it is currently at. As for the hd7970, I will make sure I check some benchmarks, but so far I prefer Nvidia. Perhaps the "670 FTW edition" Kicks it up a notch to compete with the 7970? And about the case, thanks it's actually a little cheaper than ther thermaltake g10 I was originally going to go with. I just worry I will have to replace the acrylic side.... Hate those fan mounts already. Anyway, thanks again, I am going to wait and hopefully see some more replies before making a final decision. :) 


No problem. In the meantime in reply from me.

The Thermalright performs on par with the H100 except when the H100 fans are maxed, and that is VERY loud. Since teh H100 is better than the H80, you can do the thinking. :) 
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/thermalright_silve...

The SSDs. Here is a direct comparisonp price compare on Newegg.
840 Pro - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
840 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If the 40Dollars are out of budget then get the 830. Its better still better than the 840.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here are some prices for the GTX670 FTW vs a HD7970.

HD 7970 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Note that the HD7970 GHz edition is currently THE FASTEST single GPU available.
The normal HD7970 can easily be OCd or even BIOS flashed to match and even exceed a stock GHZ Edition, they are the same chip and cooler, AMD just did this for marketing reasons.

GTX670 FTW - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The HD7970 costs 30 dollars less.

Now for benches and a Toms hierarchy chart.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_catalyst_12_11...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

As for a case. If you are on a tight budget you can go quite a bit cheaper to get a better SSD, that is what I would do.
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