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Hd 7850 vs gtx 660

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November 28, 2012 7:17:43 AM

hi!
i want to know which is better for 1366*768 resolution, i play crysis 2, metro 2033 etc-
1) sapphire hd 7850
2) gigabyte gtx 660

the price difference is ~30$,so which is better suited for my needs??

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a c 92 U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 7:19:18 AM

the 660 would be better but the 7850 should max everything at that resolution already.
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a b U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 7:24:14 AM

You can get cheaper cards for that resolution. 7850 is enough.

But you should go with GTX 660, the Gigabyte one is of around Rupees 15000.
You should get a bigger monitor and GTX 660.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 7:57:37 AM

I think both those cards will max out games at that res get which ever you prefer.
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a b U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 8:00:05 AM

For that resolution you don't need anything higher than a GTX 650 or 7770.
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November 28, 2012 9:59:06 AM

i am not going to upgrade my monitor right now, so i thinkthe hd 7850 is enough,and does the 7850 overclock better then the 660(non ti)?
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a b U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 10:08:23 AM

Well it should !

Also with new drivers AMD has increased perf in game. So 7850 is a better deal than 660(non ti).

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/46905-amd-cataly...

There have been 7+ releases and in each one improving gaming experience.

So its to obvious that 7850 is a better deal.
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a c 291 U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 10:16:05 AM

They both are beastly overclockers. And no, HD 7770 is not enough. HD 7850 should be enough, though.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 10:19:54 AM

Sunius said:
They both are beastly overclockers. And no, HD 7770 is not enough. HD 7850 should be enough, though.
+1
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November 28, 2012 11:14:38 AM

I have a GTX 660 and currently playing at the same resolution at you are.

I get very good results in almost every game and I'm planning to upgrade my monitor in the future, but you're not gonna upgrade to higher resolution so a HD 7850 is enough.

But I still suggest you still go with a GTX 660
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November 28, 2012 11:29:12 AM

At those resolutions I'd go with 7850 because its cheaper and any extra performance you get is a waste.

Also you can overclock 7850 to 7870 when you get a new monitor.
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a b U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 12:04:43 PM

coolermaster_72 said:
I have a GTX 660 and currently playing at the same resolution at you are.

I get very good results in almost every game and I'm planning to upgrade my monitor in the future, but you're not gonna upgrade to higher resolution so a HD 7850 is enough.

But I still suggest you still go with a GTX 660

I agree - it will max out every game at 60fps or so, and 60fps in all your games is just really awesome. I'm keeping my lower-res monitor for that reason: only need a $200 card to max out current games @ 60fps on Ultra.

You can enable Adaptive Vsync just in case you get any dips below 60fps. You can also enable PhysX in games that support it, and it's such a strong card for your res, you won't feel the performance hit. You also have access to TXAA in newer games, and SGSSAA in older games - since you have a low resolution (and thus lots of aliasing) - again, you may not even feel the performance hit, because you'll probably stay pretty close to 60fps, no matter what the game.

I agree with Sunius: the HD 7770 will not be enough, especially if you want to max next year's games, too.
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November 28, 2012 12:51:33 PM

+1 to jessterman21 / coolermaster_72 there - who wants a card than only play what's out now? Unless you buy a new card each year, you should get a bit of excess to handle tomorrow's games. No such thing as 'wasted performance' if you're buying something to last you. Price difference compared to a 2GB 7850 is barely anything - grab a GTX660.
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November 28, 2012 1:57:07 PM

vik61 said:
i am not going to upgrade my monitor right now, so i thinkthe hd 7850 is enough,and does the 7850 overclock better then the 660(non ti)?


GTX 660 is much better than the 7850.

Even though you won't upgrade your monitor, you will have to grab another card in 2013 if you go with HD 7850 now.

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a c 92 U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 6:42:06 PM

coolermaster_72 said:
GTX 660 is much better than the 7850.

Even though you won't upgrade your monitor, you will have to grab another card in 2013 if you go with HD 7850 now.

this isn't remotely true, the difference between the 7850 and the 660 is minimal. About 10%. Any game the 7850 can't play well, the 660 won't either. The 7850 OCed is faster than the 660 OCed either way.
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a c 291 U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 6:48:29 PM

HD 7850 OCed isn't faster than GTX 660 OCed. They both overclock well - but their difference in performance doesn't move.
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a b U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 6:58:21 PM

GTX 660 has the best performance, why not get the best Card?

You never know if you get a new monitor in the future. :) 
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a c 92 U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 7:59:27 PM

15.5% increase for your link

the highest 7850 on TPU has 1245mhz clock OC and much faster memory OC. I am not looking at absolute BF3 performance. I am look at OC scaling in reference to the general performance.

An 7850 OCed by 45% is the max OC, a 660 max OC is 15%. The gain would be enough to put the 7850 ahead of the 660.

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a c 291 U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 8:15:32 PM

45%? You're pulling numbers out of nowhere. I'm pretty sure one could push GTX 660 much further as well. They don't do that in benchmarks. And we trust the benchmarks.

And really, there's no point in trying to prove that HD 7850 is as good as GTX 660. First of all, stock performance is at totally different level. Secondly, you get many benefits for choosing Nvidia: FXAA, TXAA, PhysX, better driver support (can you believe that Radeons HD 4000 are no longer getting driver updates?).
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a b U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 8:19:22 PM

I think the 45% came from 1245 / 860. I'm with you on the GTX660 though - you're getting plenty extra for the negligible price increase.
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a c 92 U Graphics card
November 28, 2012 8:58:03 PM

Sunius said:
45%? You're pulling numbers out of nowhere. I'm pretty sure one could push GTX 660 much further as well. They don't do that in benchmarks. And we trust the benchmarks.

And really, there's no point in trying to prove that HD 7850 is as good as GTX 660. First of all, stock performance is at totally different level. Secondly, you get many benefits for choosing Nvidia: FXAA, TXAA, PhysX, better driver support (can you believe that Radeons HD 4000 are no longer getting driver updates?).

check the TPU links. max 7850, 1245mhz
stock is 860. 1245/860 = 45% increase.

not hard math there.
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November 28, 2012 10:58:11 PM

Why buy a weak card if its $30 less than the GTX 660? Its no point.

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November 28, 2012 11:04:31 PM

with the the new driver of nVidia, 660 will surpass the 7850 again in the future.

My other PC, which is quite weak, it has a 9500GT 512MB , it still gets driver updates.

IMO nVidia is really good with driver updates, even for older cards.

lets not forget that he gets some other benefits if he buy the 660 too, as Sunius mentioned above.

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November 28, 2012 11:23:23 PM

we never know whether these technologies will be used in the upcoming games ^_^

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a c 291 U Graphics card
November 29, 2012 4:17:00 AM

esrever said:
check the TPU links. max 7850, 1245mhz
stock is 860. 1245/860 = 45% increase.

not hard math there.


Performance doesn't scale linearly with clock speed man...
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November 29, 2012 4:27:50 AM

prototype18 said:
Well guys new drivers . NEW drivers has increased AMD performance. So 7850 should beat 660(non ti)

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performanc...


This is the first realease.There have been 7+

Im using new Nvidia drivers and just improved on H.Absolution.


have you seen new drivers from Nvidia? I guess not. Bot AMD and Nvidia jas just released excellent drivers, so you can't say that AMD is ahead when you haven't seen Nvidia. :) 
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November 29, 2012 4:45:39 AM

i think i might buy the msi hd 7850 twin fozr, as it is enough for the resolution and also from the links posted above, it is clear that the difference between the 660 and 7850 is minimal( the msi 7850 is clocked at 950mhz core clock, therefore it will be on par with a regular gtx 660)
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November 29, 2012 5:11:11 AM

vik61 said:
i think i might buy the msi hd 7850 twin fozr, as it is enough for the resolution and also from the links posted above, it is clear that the difference between the 660 and 7850 is minimal( the msi 7850 is clocked at 950mhz core clock, therefore it will be on par with a regular gtx 660)


but if you get a MSI twin frozr GTX 660, it will be on par with GTX 660 ti, dude just stop. ^^
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a b U Graphics card
November 29, 2012 5:16:12 AM

yep get the 7850 then
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November 29, 2012 6:07:11 AM

quite an interesting thread...
I would suggest you to go for the one which costs less.... :D 
Though if the difference is around $20 , thn get the gtx 660.... ;) 
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November 29, 2012 7:04:54 AM

lostgamer_03 said:
but if you get a MSI twin frozr GTX 660, it will be on par with GTX 660 ti, dude just stop. ^^

and it is 25$ more expensive while being less than 5% faster :na: 
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November 29, 2012 9:37:54 AM

lostgamer_03 said:
have you seen new drivers from Nvidia? I guess not. Bot AMD and Nvidia jas just released excellent drivers, so you can't say that AMD is ahead when you haven't seen Nvidia. :) 

Well i have those new drivers of nvidia.They made improvements only at H.Absolution.
While AMD incresead performance overall.

@ OP

Well the difference is 2000Rs ~36$.

If you can afford that why not go for the 660. Both would be great deals.Anw whatever u choose will max out everything in that resolution.

Gigabyte would be a better choice as it is cooler and quieter than sapphire. And will OC like a champ.

With my rig i can kill every single game @1280x1024.

So should you.

Good luck !
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a b U Graphics card
November 29, 2012 9:49:13 AM

Sunius said:
Yes.



OMG! I didn't know my Crad is better than the GTX 660 Ti. Thanks for the information ;) 
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a b U Graphics card
November 29, 2012 10:32:57 AM

Keep in mind it's not just getting a bigger monitor - it's playing newer games. It goes without saying that games are becoming more and more demanding every year, so why not buy a bit of future-proofing so you're not buying a new card each year? I've never been able to understand how people can be so short-sighted to spend hundreds on hardware to just run a handful of games that are out right now. Surely I'm not the only one who wants my hardware to last at least two years?

As for Sapphire, I'd really recommend avoiding them. I've just had a Sapphire 5970 die on me just 4 months after the warranty expired. I've had another Sapphire die within 6 months of warranty expiry, and my first (a 9700) actually died on the same month the warranty expired! If that's not in-built obsolescence, I don't know what is. I'm sure people will have had Sapphires that did live beyond their warranty, but after my experiences with the three I've owned... well, there won't be a fourth.
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November 29, 2012 11:34:43 AM

I don't know why he does't understand ! :/ 

you have more muscle if you go with a GTX 660.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
November 29, 2012 11:39:18 AM

This thread is funny!Keep going i have my popcorn now
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a b U Graphics card
November 29, 2012 11:39:57 AM

I don't think it's lack of understanding so much as lack of foresight... and contradictory advice - some people are saying 'don't by more than the minimum you need to play what's out right now' while others are saying 'buy something that will last for the future'. OP will just have to decide whether they want to save money in the short term or in the long run.

Pretty much any of these advice threads there's gonna be conflicting advice, readers will just need to use a bit of their own judgement in deciding which argument has more merit :-)
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