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January 12, 2013 6:03:34 PM

Hey guys, I'm building my first pc system, but I'm stuck on a case. I like the simple sleek look of NZXT Switch 810, but it must be a mid tower. So I've come across almost every case out there mid-full and chose thoses three competitors. Any other MID TOWERS can be susgested but I'd like to focus on the three mentioned. Requirements I'm looking for is easy dust filters, good airflow, simple look, USB3, performance for quietness, and performance for value(but quietness is more important than value).

Systems specs are
*3570k
*Evga 660 2GB FTW Signature 2
*Biostar TZ77XE3
*HX 750W(planning on sli in future)
*Silver Arrow sb-e Extreme(still kinda deciding between: D14, silver arrow reg/extreme for performance/noise)
*WD Calviar Black 1TB
*Kingston HyperX (2x4)

More about : 500r 550d p280

January 12, 2013 6:21:32 PM

you are overspending on a lot of stuff. gimme your budget and i can get a much better gaming solution for you with OCing room and SLI/CFX room.
January 12, 2013 6:25:59 PM

whats ur budget and what country u live in thanks.

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January 12, 2013 11:04:41 PM

I live in North America, and budget is around $850.

*3570k / $220 US.NCIX.com
*Evga 660 FTW Signature 2 +Assasin's Creed 3/ $235 newegg.com
*Biostar TZ77XE3 / $135 newegg.com(was looking at msi z77a-g41)
*HX 750w / $100 (still woulda wanted ax but this was cheaper now)
*Silver Arrow sb-e Extreme / $70 amazon.com
*Calviar Black / $100
*Kingston HyperX / already have for $20
January 12, 2013 11:15:52 PM

Also already had like one or two hard drive problem(s) so thats why i chose calviar black over barracuda, one power supply problem(I know that HX is way more than I need but was on sale). Motherboard is what I'm not too knowledgable about. Lowest cpu I'd take is 3470. And going with gut feeling for FTW because I've still now sure what the performance increase is.

First time doing a custom, but have a friend who's pretty expirenced with computers, but not taking too much help from him because he is too cheap. Spent about two months researching about this now.
January 12, 2013 11:24:52 PM

You should spend more money on the GPU instead of the CPU. the CPU does not give as much power to games as the GPU.

an example no OC no SLI/CFX build that would be able to mop the floor of your build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $802.48
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-12 20:22 EST-0500)

would easily beat an i5 3570k+660 but there are cons of it not being able to upgrade to a second GPU(should add a second one if you do not have a unlocked CPU anyways)

OCing the CPU is only needed when you add inside additional GPUs into your build so they will not get bottlenecked by the CPUs speed.

here is another build for future upgrades and overclocking potential
January 12, 2013 11:35:50 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: TUNIQ Tower 120 Extreme 90.7 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($273.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $953.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-12 20:30 EST-0500)

w/o the case it is about 860(same whole price as your build without the case)

this case is a silent low profile case and its quality is very high for this kind of price(usually about the $120 mark)

does leave some room to upgrade such as an additional card and more ram.

the tuniq Cooler is actually a very great cooler for Ivy bridge as it disparate heat a lot faster than most others(found this out not to long ago but IB runs just as cool as SB but it is how intel uses cheap thermal paste and traps the heat inside because it is soldered) if you do not believe me you can check this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXs0I5kuoX4
where he removes the IHS and puts on better thermal paste and achieves much lower temps
January 12, 2013 11:41:41 PM

This is great i geuss we've caught each other online. What do you mean when you say you can't upgrade to a second gpu(is it the power supply?), I'd rather stick to a stronger psu than 500w, and I am picky about cases(sorry just who I am).
January 12, 2013 11:43:38 PM

I have artic silver 5, and thank you VERY MUCH for helping me.
January 12, 2013 11:53:34 PM

The Fractul r4 did catch my attention for a little while, but something about doesn't fit me(you can change my mind) and I'd like something that I'll not feel bad about when I use my PC. I also see that your systems listed having betterresults than my easily though.
January 12, 2013 11:53:38 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xiow
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xiow/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xiow/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z68A-G43 (G3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z11 ATX Mid Tower Case ($40.20 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $740.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-12 20:56 EST-0500)

740$ after rebates and the 7950 can be easily overclocked to 7970 levels, and that equals and somethimes beats the gtx 680 :) 

January 12, 2013 11:59:00 PM

I love the 600t, SO MUCH ROOM for cable management, for non modular power supplies, you can stuff every cable behind the tray and there is still room.
January 13, 2013 12:01:05 AM

its nice but not necessary for this budget build :p 

January 13, 2013 12:06:43 AM

Sorry forgot to mention it has the same chassis as the 550D. I tried to edit it but forgot to hit submit.
January 13, 2013 12:20:51 AM

its nice except its over his budget :p 

January 13, 2013 1:43:44 AM

Fractal actually looks pretty slick. It is high quality(like Corsair and Cooler master ex:a lot of metal) it is very quiet and has a fan controller(same controller as Corsairs 500R)

it has a lot of room for cables in the back.

550D is actually the hot box of the Corsair series cases. If you do not like the fractal R4 then you should really get the 500R. Doesn't really look as nice as the R4 but it has a lot of fans and a fan controller with an LED controller for some of the fans.


As for the first build, it cannot SLI/CFX because it has a 500W supply and the motherboard does not allow for that second card to be added inside.
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