New Rig for 3D Work 1000€-1200€

[Ongaku]

Hi, I've been lurking on the forums for posts with similar needs than mine but along the way I found new questions and no definitive answers so I would like to ask for your help.

INTEL CORE i7 3820 (3.60GHZ) SKT 2011
ASROCK X79 EXTREME4
CORSAIR KIT 16GB DDR3 1866MHZ VENGEANCE (CL9 - X79)
CORSAIR GS-800W (80+ BRONZE)
OCZ SSD VERTEX 4 128GB SATA III (560MB/430MB/85000)
EVGA GTX670 FTW 2048MB DDR5 PCI-E

This attempt of a build is 1184€ without fans, case and hard-drive, so I'm beginning to think it may be impossible to achieve the build I want on this kind of budget at least around where I live.

So the part lists i tried to do always end up running over 1200€ and its a fight between getting a good processor or a good graphics card cause I need them both. I was aiming for at least a 670 and I am thinking to go sli for another 670 in the future. As for the processor I read that the socket 2011 was good for more workstation like tasks because of the architecture and so I was considering the i7 3820. From the information i gathered the 3770 could match the performance but for a later upgrades having a 2011 socket would be best.

Please enlighten if all I written above doesn't make any sense since those where the biggest doubts I found when I started to look up parts again.

Thanks a lot for your time !

Approximate Purchase Date: Next month.

Budget Range: 1000€ to 1200€

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3d modeling, animation, real time render (game engine editing, unreal and cryengine), gaming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
This is the site I use http://globaldata.pt but since it's in portuguese and google translator may not work I can buy from other stores in europe that you may know and recommend.

Location: Lisbon, Country - Portugal

Parts Preferences: Intel and NVIDIA

Overclocking: Maybe (If its easy enough to do and not fry anything)

SLI or Crossfire: Yes (for future upgrades)

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: As i've said the pc will be mostly for 3d work and game related work. Running Maya and Unreal or Cryengine back to back and ocasionally play a game with the best possible graphics I can get.

 

[AMD Radeon]

it is a sample build, i picked from pcpartpicker UK
it is about 1100 euro find the actual price in your country

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£435.91 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£154.66 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.99 @ Dabs)
Storage: OCZ Agility 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£75.59 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 1GB Video Card (£85.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.96 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£67.10 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £926.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-12 21:22 GMT+0000)

upgrade GPU later

 

[iceclock]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/fr/p/xfX5
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/fr/p/xfX5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/fr/p/xfX5/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€271.80 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler (€48.99 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (€106.90 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€84.47 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€144.70 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€91.98 @ Amazon France)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case (€85.79 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (€192.56 @ Amazon France)
Optical Drive: Sony BC-5500H-01 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (€50.00 @ Amazon France)
Total: €1077.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-12 23:16 CET+0100)

oops must of not noticed that error, this pcs more than solid, for editing gaming, what ever u wanna throw at it it will do it

 

[AMD Radeon]

^ dude... the cpu in your list isnt priced... so it will go all the way up to 1600 euro

 

[Michael S_79]

if you need the pc for work you may need
CPU i7 3820
MB Intel DX79.. (the cheapest, watch the PCI_E slots to meet your needs)
RAM Corsair Vengeance Quad channel 4x4GB or 4x8GB
SSD Corsair Force or Neutron series
PSU Corsair TX 850(or up to HX series)
CASE Corsair Carbide or Obsidian series (the cheapest of them)
CPU Cooler Corsair H60 or H80
GPU PNY Quadro 2000(at least for rendering)
HDD WD Green 1TB

 

[Ongaku]

First of all, thank you for all the responses.

Your builds are very interesting on the processor side, 3 build and 3 different processors to make me think about it even more

I really think I should go with the i7 3930 K, it has 6 cores that I would benefit on the 3D side of things and its "overclockable" right ? I guess its a better fit for a long run.

After reading AMD Radeon's suggestion on the GPU I decided I wont be buying it for now and I will skip it altogether for this build. A month after I purchase the parts I will get a 680 or 670. That way I wont compromise on neither the CPU or GPU. And for 3d tasks gpu is not really that important only for viewport, so I can wait before I start to do the unreal engine stuff. I will be using my old XFX 8800 alpha dog edition, it should be fine right ?

Also I should've stated earlier but I wont be needing an optical drive, I have a couple of the laying around.

I'm sorry I will be asking you more questions, they're about the cpu cooler, memory sticks and the PSU.

You seem to suggest closed water cooling systems, I read some reviews on amazon (if that's any worth) and its seems when it fails its bad, firmware crashes and one guy had a leak on the system. It worries me a bit, on the other side each and every review said the temperature drop was great.
Is that bad use by the usesrs, is it a hit or miss product ?
Just as an alternative could you recommend a good air cooling system thinking about overclocking ?

As for the memory sticks, I think I read that having a i7 3930 and quad channel memory would be a better fit for heavy tasks, Michael S_79 is that true ? Also is there a big difference on performance between 1600Mhz and 1866Mhz, the difference in price here is very low.

Finally about the PSU, thinking about SLI should I get at least 850w or the 650w will be fine ?


Once again thanks a lot for your suggestions, I am getting a clear picture of the build and the price range !

 

[Michael S_79]

closed water system has no problems. as for that guy i dont know what he did to his build. the processor 3970 is much more expensive but is a Z77(very good chipset) competible so it is better. i think you do not need the k edition because in my opinion overclocking is not needed (it is interesting but not good if you want stability and long life) get a T(low power-best for work) or S(performance) edition. ram: even if you go with 1866MHz you will get like <1% faster system and its more safe and it gives good "flow" to your sys. you also look for dominator or even dominator platinum as the have better raw materials for manufacturing (watch out ! 2 dual channel not same as 1 quadro channel). it may seems that quadro gpu is waste of money but in my opinion is a professional product with recommended use for CAD, render, 3d etc.. for SLI you need at least 850W or even 1050W for stable sys.

i am buying also a new build for practically the same reason (i am an architect, use photoshop cs6 and auto CAD -- very little 3d/i dont like it ) and thats what im buying

CPU i7 3770T
MB intel DZ77SL-50K
RAM corsair dom. platinum 2x8GB 1600MHz 9-9-9-24
PSU corsair ax860i or ax760i
CASE corsair obsidian 550D (quiet)
CPU cooler corsair H55 (quiet)
SSD corsair Neutron gtx 120GB
Fans corsair AF and/or SP quiet edition
GPU PNY Nvidia Quadro 600 or 2000
ex.optical (only) samsung se218bb

 

[iceclock]

after seeing ur budget and u wanting a 670, ive redone the build for ur needs:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/fr/p/xo9B
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/fr/p/xo9B/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/fr/p/xo9B/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€294.99 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake CLP0564 101.6 CFM CPU Cooler (€43.08 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (€124.90 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€42.16 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€62.05 @ Amazon France)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (€351.06 @ Amazon France)
Case: Zalman Z11 ATX Mid Tower Case (€54.49 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE 90 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (€169.90 @ Amazon France)
Optical Drive: Sony BC-5500H-01 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (€50.00 @ Amazon France)
Total: €1192.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 18:01 CET+0100)

and than upgrade to an ssd

 

[iceclock]

and if u want just a purely 3d design build here:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/fr/p/xoag
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/fr/p/xoag/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/fr/p/xoag/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€294.99 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake CLP0564 101.6 CFM CPU Cooler (€43.08 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (€104.90 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€84.47 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€91.98 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Western Digital WD VelociRaptor 250GB 2.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive (€113.17 @ Amazon France)
Video Card: PNY Quadro 400 512MB Video Card (€148.89 @ Amazon France)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case (€85.79 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (€92.82 @ Amazon France)
Optical Drive: Sony BC-5500H-01 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (€50.00 @ Amazon France)
Total: €1110.09
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 18:02 CET+0100)

 

[Ongaku]

iceclock thanks a lot, I've been reading about the 3770K and its comparisons to the other processors and it holds a lot of bang for its buck when overcloked and eve when not.

So I began to consider that as an option, the builds you posted are awesome and pretty much what I will end up getting. And as I read about the processors I heard of the new generation of Intel coming in April or something, I'm not in a hurry to buy the pc, and I can wait a little longer 2 to 3 months. Would you advise me to wait and see what this new generation holds or will it be much expensive then the current processors ?

Thanks again for your time.

 

[iceclock]

well also the point is, its got 4 physical cores and 4software ht cores,

so it future proofs u alot more,

well u wont see a huge improvement with haswell, theyre will be some, but the 3770k is a monster at stock and when overclocked blows tru the competition.

if u need a rig now get it, if u can wait shur, but u wont see the sky and day difference ur imagining tho if u wait.

 

[Ongaku]

I guess Ill wait a bit, not because of the difference in performance, more because of the price drop on the current processors

Thanks aghain you're very helpful.

 

[iceclock]

no problem anytime