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January 13, 2013 4:19:06 AM

I've been needing a new computer for awhile, and I've got a build together now that I'd like to get some more opinions on:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xjCl
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xjCl/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xjCl/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($135.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft ANB-00001 Wired Slim Keyboard ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1129.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 01:11 EST-0500)

I went ahead and filled the asking for advice guidelines as well.
I created a thread here before this, but it only got one reply (which was a helpful one), and I want to get some opinions on what I think I'm going to go with.
Thanks for the help in advance. :) 


Approximate Purchase Date: Next month

Budget Range: 1000-1150 Before Rebates; After Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: Buying everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Location: Sedro-Woolley, Washington, USA

Parts Preferences: None, though I do like Asus and Intel

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Additional Comments: I'll be using this mostly for gaming on games like Guild Wars 2 and BF3

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Need a new Desktop for gaming and other general day to day use.

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January 13, 2013 4:28:47 AM

It's a good start - there's a few tweaks I would make to make it a better system:

- Better case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Better power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- The Radeon 7870 GHz edition is a better card than a reference 660 is - others will disagree with me, so be it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And get low profile RAM if you plan to overclock that 3570K: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you're not going to overclock you could drop the CPU to the i5-3470 and the motherboard to H77 then upgrade your GPU to the Radeon 7950.
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January 13, 2013 4:32:38 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.98 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1047.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 01:32 EST-0500)
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January 13, 2013 5:54:58 AM

boulbox said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.98 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1047.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 01:32 EST-0500)


I would not get a 7970 at the expense of the motherboard and CPU - I'd rather go with a 7950 and an i5-3570K. A good GPU is only as good as the other hardware that surrounds it.
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January 13, 2013 4:31:40 PM

g-unit1111 said:
It's a good start - there's a few tweaks I would make to make it a better system:

- Better case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Better power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- The Radeon 7870 GHz edition is a better card than a reference 660 is - others will disagree with me, so be it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And get low profile RAM if you plan to overclock that 3570K: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you're not going to overclock you could drop the CPU to the i5-3470 and the motherboard to H77 then upgrade your GPU to the Radeon 7950.

I honestly don't know much about overclocking. I know that it's adjusting parts to make them run faster (I think), but that's it. Would you suggest it? Thanks for the reply though, I've made the suggested changes.
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January 13, 2013 5:47:35 PM

a single 7970 won't be much of a bottle neck to a i5 3470. You will start seeing bottleneck when you add 2 7970s though since you can't overclock the 3470.

The build was meant to be a build that you do not upgrade but has good power by itself.

i would get the i5 3570k if his budget was a bit higher with a 7950 so he would be able to do a CFX/SLI
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January 13, 2013 6:26:44 PM

Shipoopi said:
I honestly don't know much about overclocking. I know that it's adjusting parts to make them run faster (I think), but that's it. Would you suggest it? Thanks for the reply though, I've made the suggested changes.


If you feel you would benefit from it (read: play a lot of games :lol:  ) then yes. If you're not ready to overclock then that's an area where I would recommend saving some money.

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a single 7970 won't be much of a bottle neck to a i5 3470. You will start seeing bottleneck when you add 2 7970s though since you can't overclock the 3470.


A B75 mATX will not handle a pair of 7970s anyways. It doesn't leave much if any room for upgrading. I'd get a full size H77 motherboard if that were the case.
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January 13, 2013 6:40:43 PM

Noob12 said:
If you dont think to overcloc take this cpu : http://www.microcenter.com/product/400271/Xeon_E3_1230V...
Its faster than 3570k at stock. Its like i7 for a price of i5

See more at this chart: http://ark.intel.com/products/65732/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
http://ark.intel.com/products/65520/Intel-Core-i5-3570K...

and here:http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...



in store pick up only.

And if he does have microcenter near him then he should get an i5 3570k + asrock extreme4 for the price around $300
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January 13, 2013 7:38:36 PM

g-unit1111 said:
If you feel you would benefit from it (read: play a lot of games :lol:  ) then yes. If you're not ready to overclock then that's an area where I would recommend saving some money.

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a single 7970 won't be much of a bottle neck to a i5 3470. You will start seeing bottleneck when you add 2 7970s though since you can't overclock the 3470.


A B75 mATX will not handle a pair of 7970s anyways. It doesn't leave much if any room for upgrading. I'd get a full size H77 motherboard if that were the case.

I'd like to be able to have the option of overclocking, and I don't mind having to save a bit longer to be able to get something that would work a lot better for me.
I also want to be able to upgrade in the future.

Here is what I have so far with the changes you've recommended on pcpartpicker:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Actually going with this model: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Microsoft ANB-00001 Wired Slim Keyboard ($11.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1116.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 20:42 EST-0500)
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January 13, 2013 7:40:40 PM

boulbox said:
in store pick up only.

And if he does have microcenter near him then he should get an i5 3570k + asrock extreme4 for the price around $300

I don't. There's not even one in Washington.
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January 15, 2013 10:52:19 PM

Sorry for the, well, triple post, but could someone please reply?
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January 16, 2013 12:34:11 AM

Best answer selected by Shipoopi.
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