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January 12, 2013 10:24:27 PM

I have an $1700-$1800 budget first of all. I am about to build a gaming rig, and will be using a single monitor @ 1080p. What do you guys suggest? I want it to last through the 7xx/8xxx series of video cards also, so I want something good and will pay for that.

I already have a monitor and mouse.
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January 12, 2013 10:30:43 PM

mf2385 said:
I have an $1700-$1800 budget first of all. I am about to build a gaming rig, and will be using a single monitor @ 1080p. What do you guys suggest? I want it to last through the 7xx/8xxx series of video cards also, so I want something good and will pay for that.

I already have a monitor and mouse.


What parts do you need? With a budget like that you can go pretty much the best on everything. I would get an Corsair Obsidian 650D, I5 3570K, high-end 7ZZ motherboard, 8 Gigs of RAM, 1TB HDD, 128 Gig SSD (for a boot drive), GTX 680/Radeon 7970 and a good quality 550 Watt (or bigger if you want but you probably don't need something like 900 to 1000 watts.)
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January 12, 2013 10:35:53 PM

Hi :) 

Buy a 7990....

All the best Brett :) 
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January 12, 2013 10:40:16 PM

LOL.
I knew brett would've come with that...that's like 60% of the budget for the card, 33-40% of that is enough for 1080p, a 670 gtx/680 gtx or a 7970, basically what rds1220 said.
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January 12, 2013 10:42:52 PM

Yea that is a huge waste of money. The video card alone cost 1000 dollars, it is a waste of money not to mention there will be next to no performance difference in modern games. A single GTX 680 or 7970 is all you need that will play all games at 1920X1080 with high settings.
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January 12, 2013 10:46:25 PM

What about something like this

i7 3770k
corsair h80i cpu cooler
cooler master haf 932 case
gigabyte z77x-ud3h
16gb corsair vengeance ddr3 2133 mhz
1tb seagate barracuda 7200 rpm
msi gtx 680 lightning 2gb
corsair tx850 power supply
corsair vengeance 1500 gaming headset
razer blackwidow expert 2013


What about something like that? I guess edit off that template, Is a 3770K worth getting for longevity, or stick with 3570K? Also I like Gigabyte motherboards which is why I picked it, I had a z68 gigabyte mb.

I also don't really want an SSD right now, rather put the money into other parts of the computer.
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January 12, 2013 11:13:51 PM

mf2385 said:
What about something like this

1) i7 3770k
2)corsair h80i cpu cooler
3)cooler master haf 932 case
4)gigabyte z77x-ud3h
5)16gb corsair vengeance ddr3 2133 mhz
6)1tb seagate barracuda 7200 rpm
7)msi gtx 680 lightning 2gb
8)corsair tx850 power supply
9)corsair vengeance 1500 gaming headset
10)razer blackwidow expert 2013


What about something like that? I guess edit off that template, Is a 3770K worth getting for longevity, or stick with 3570K? Also I like Gigabyte motherboards which is why I picked it, I had a z68 gigabyte mb.

I also don't really want an SSD right now, rather put the money into other parts of the computer.


1) The I7 is a waste of money if all you are doing is playing games. An I5 3570K is more that enough. With the I7 you are paying 100 dollars for extra features that games don't make use of. There is no point in getting an I7.

2) The H80 is also a waste of money IMO. The fact is that those closed loop water loops don't perform any better than high-end air cooling. If you want to get the H80 you might as well just get a Noctua D14 heatsink. in push pull configuration. If you want to do water cooling do it right and do a custom water loop.

3-4) The case and motherboard are fine

5) 16 Gigs is way overkill for gaming. 4 Gigs is enough and 8 Gigs is more than enough. I would go with 8 Gigs. Also you don't really need 2133 speed RAM. 1333 or 1600 is fine and really you don't need that.

6-7) the HDD and video card are fine

8) You don't need a 800 Watt PSU anything from 550-600 Watts is more than enough. Computer hardware is getting smaller, running cooler and using less power. You don't need anything that big.
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January 12, 2013 11:39:45 PM

Switched back to 8 gigs 1600, cooler master hyper 212 evo, and 3570k, I just want to be able to overclock the 3570k to a good 24/7 oc around 4.5GHz.
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January 12, 2013 11:44:28 PM

nice budget you going for 2 680s or 2 7970s?
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January 12, 2013 11:44:44 PM

We can’t guarantee anything but with good cooling you should be able to get a Sandy Bridges/Ivy Bridges I5 to 4.5 GHz. You can overclock CPU’s to a certain point but after that it is a matter of the luck of the draw.
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January 12, 2013 11:46:24 PM

stantheman123 said:
nice budget you going for 2 680s or 2 7970s?


Lol, I am playing on a single monitor right now 24'' LED 60Hz. I definitely don't need either of those lol
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January 12, 2013 11:47:14 PM

I think you rather get the noctua NH-D14, you have the budget for it.
Get a modular psu, you have the budget for it, 650w is enough as said.
With that budget i think you rather get a ssd, a reliable one from samsung.
The rest seems fine(with the changes)
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January 12, 2013 11:47:29 PM

stantheman123 said:
nice budget you going for 2 680s or 2 7970s?


He could but there really is no point. It won't add much performance and there are inherent problems with Crossfire/SLI most common is lag/ FPS drops in some games causing worse performance than with a single high-end card.
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January 12, 2013 11:47:32 PM

rds1220 said:
We can’t guarantee anything but with good cooling you should be able to get a Sandy Bridges/Ivy Bridges I5 to 4.5 GHz. You can overclock CPU’s to a certain point but after that it is a matter of the luck of the draw.


I need some recommendations for a good cpu cooler, I really did like my old h80, maybe I'll consider an h80i, it is small and not too noisy and does a pretty good job.
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January 12, 2013 11:49:14 PM

What if I get like SLi 660 ti or 670 though? Noctua isn't in stock on Tigerdirect anyway.
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January 12, 2013 11:50:32 PM

As mentioned by me and DJ given your budget I would go with a Noctua D14 in push pull configuration. Again if you really want to do water cooling do a custom water loop.
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January 12, 2013 11:55:03 PM

mf2385 said:
What if I get like SLi 660 ti or 670 though? Noctua isn't in stock on Tigerdirect anyway.


There really is no point in SLI'ing/Crossfiring two lower end cards. As mentioned above Crossfiring and SLI'ing havevinherent problems most common is lag/ FPS drops in some games causing worse performance than with a single high-end card especially with low(er) end cards. You are always better getting one single high end card than two lower end cards. So in this case you would be better off with a single GTX 670 or 680 rather than two 660Ti's.
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January 12, 2013 11:57:28 PM

rds1220 said:
As mentioned by me and DJ given your budget I would go with a Noctua D14 in push pull configuration. Again if you really want to do water cooling do a custom water loop.



Is there a good alternative to the noctua nh-d14 I can get off Tigerdirect, it's not available right now, maybe a cooler master hyper 212 evo? Something that I can clock my 3570k to around 4.4-4.6GHz 24/7 oc?
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January 12, 2013 11:58:21 PM

rds1220 said:
There really is no point in SLI'ing/Crossfiring two lower end cards. As mentioned above Crossfiring and SLI'ing havevinherent problems most common is lag/ FPS drops in some games causing worse performance than with a single high-end card especially with low(er) end cards. You are always better getting one single high end card than two lower end cards. So in this case you would be better off with a single GTX 670 or 680 rather than two 660Ti's.
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Ok well just to make stuff better for me for now and hopefully til 2014, what if I just get 670s in sli then.
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January 13, 2013 12:00:28 AM

See if it has the phanteks ph-tc14pe
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January 13, 2013 12:06:11 AM

djangoringo said:
See if it has the phanteks ph-tc14pe


Nah, those are on backorder also.
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January 13, 2013 12:10:47 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xitS
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xitS/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xitS/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Gene Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($117.95 @ Mac Connection)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($45.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition Twin Pack Fan (CO-9050008-WW) ($23.99)
Other: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition Twin Pack Fan (CO-9050008-WW) ($23.99)
Total: $1722.81
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-12 21:06 EST-0500)

$1800 really gives you a lot of freedom. I added 4 120 mm fans to the Corsair Carbide 300r, which has a windowed side panel where you can mount two of those to blow directly over the PCI-e slots. The Noctua is in-stock at Amazon, not sure that's an option for you. With a total of 6 fans + the Noctua, I don't see why you couldn't O/C it quite a bit, unless you get a chip that is on the lower end of what they put out for the 3570k.
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January 13, 2013 12:13:29 AM

I have to buy from Tigerdirect right now, not newegg. The Noctua NH-D14 is out of stock on Newegg. Only a Corsair 650w power supply no way I'd get that, I wouldn't even get a Corsair tx 750 for dual 670's probably the TX850M or AX850.

Llorelie said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xitS
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xitS/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xitS/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Gene Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($117.95 @ Mac Connection)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($45.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition Twin Pack Fan (CO-9050008-WW) ($23.99)
Other: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition Twin Pack Fan (CO-9050008-WW) ($23.99)
Total: $1722.81
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-12 21:06 EST-0500)

$1800 really gives you a lot of freedom. I added 4 120 mm fans to the Corsair Carbide 300r, which has a windowed side panel where you can mount two of those to blow directly over the PCI-e slots. The Noctua is in-stock at Amazon, not sure that's an option for you. With a total of 6 fans + the Noctua, I don't see why you couldn't O/C it quite a bit, unless you get a chip that is on the lower end of what they put out for the 3570k.
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January 13, 2013 12:16:15 AM

CPU i5-3570K $219
CPU Fan-Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Mobo Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H $145
RAM Corsair 8GB 1600 2x4GB $48
GPU EVGA GTX 670 2GB $375 ea. (SLi)
HDD Seagate Barracude 1TB 7200 ($89)
DVD Asus DVDRW $20
PSU Corsair AX850 $189
Case Cooler Master HAF 932 ATX $149
Razer Blackwidow Expert 2013 $99

My updated build, any other cpu coolers I can get, the noctua nh-d14 is out of stock.
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January 13, 2013 12:16:29 AM

right, the parts list has it on Newegg, but I have it up on Amazon. Is that not an option either?
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January 13, 2013 12:17:30 AM

Llorelie said:
right, the parts list has it on Newegg, but I have it up on Amazon. Is that not an option either?


I'm only buying from Tigerdirect.com

Also the Gigabyte-z77x-ud3h has 1x pcie 16x slot and 1 pcie 8x slot. Will 670's in SLi mode still perform as intended and everything?
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January 13, 2013 12:19:42 AM

I don't really know what else you want us to do. For whatever reason you can't buy from anywhere else so you have two choices buy from a different place or get something else. A hyper 212 will work too but the D14 is better.
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January 13, 2013 12:24:08 AM

rds1220 said:
I don't really know what else you want us to do. For whatever reason you can't buy from anywhere else so you have two choices buy from a different place or get something else. A hyper 212 will work too but the D14 is better.


Ok thanks for the recommendation man for the cpu cooler.
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January 13, 2013 12:54:07 AM

Current build:

CPU i5-3570K $219
CPU Fan-Corsair H80i (or Noctua NH-D14 if comes in by time I order)
Mobo Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H $145
RAM Corsair 8GB 1600 2x4GB $48
GPU 2x EVGA GTX 670 FTW 2GB $375 ea. (SLi)
HDD Seagate Barracude 1TB 7200 ($89)
DVD Asus DVDRW $20
PSU Corsair AX850 $189
Case Cooler Master HAF 932 ATX $149
Logitech G105 Gaming Keyboard $40
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January 13, 2013 12:57:11 AM

PSU is still overkill. 550-650 Watts is all you need.
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January 13, 2013 1:00:35 AM

For EVGA GTX 670s in SLi and overclocked 3570K? I would barely feel comfortable with TX750 v2.
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January 13, 2013 1:08:50 AM

Yes that is all you need. Computer hardware is getting more powerful while getting smaller, running cooler and using less power. Each generation of CPU's and GPU's are more efficient than the previous generation. According to Power Supply Calculator that build will only draw 483 Watt's of power. With a 550-650 Watt PSU you will have more than enough power and still have plenty of room to overclock.
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January 13, 2013 1:10:14 AM

rds1220 said:
PSU is still overkill. 550-650 Watts is all you need.


For SLi EVGA GTX 670 FTW and an overclocked 3570K, what Corsair PSU should I get then? TX 850M?
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January 13, 2013 1:11:10 AM

rds1220 said:
Yes that is all you need. Computer hardware is getting more powerful while getting smaller, running cooler and using less power. Each generation of CPU's and GPU's are more efficient than the previous generation. According to Power Supply Calculator that build will only draw 483 Watt's of power. With a 550-650 Watt PSU you will have more than enough power and still have plenty of room to overclock.


You calculated my other components in my list right? I still would feel that I should get a Corsair TX850M though just to be on the safe side. Honestly.
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January 13, 2013 1:12:58 AM

mf2385 said:
For SLi EVGA GTX 670 FTW and an overclocked 3570K, what Corsair PSU should I get then? TX 850M?


Yes that 483 Watts is for everything even fans. I would get any modular PSU that is 550-650 Watts.
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January 13, 2013 1:13:27 AM

Why are you getting SLI for a SINGLE monitor setup. Such a waste of power. Buy another monitor, Fan controller, fans, custom water cooling, games. The list is endless. Game with the 670 first before considering SLI.

EDIT: Get an SSD Boot drive

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January 13, 2013 1:15:51 AM

ohyouknow said:
Why are you getting SLI for a SINGLE monitor setup. Such a waste of power. Buy another monitor, Fan controller, fans, custom water cooling, games. The list is endless. Game with the 670 first before considering SLI.

EDIT: Get an SSD Boot drive


Thanks for your advice, I am coming from a single 670, it was a good card, I want a big upgrade and to not be intrigued into buying a next gen card coming out like the Nvidia 7xx or AMD 8xxx series cards. This will be good for awhile, and I can sello the 670s towards a nice upgrade in like a year or more.
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January 13, 2013 1:16:49 AM

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Yes that 483 Watts is for everything even fans. I would get any modular PSU that is 550-650 Watts.


I'm not getting any modular psu lower then like 850 because I want it to last when I get some more hard drives, and stuff when I need.
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January 13, 2013 1:17:04 AM

I agree it is a waste I've aready told him SLI has it's problems and isn't worth it for a single monitor setup but he seems dead set on it.

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January 13, 2013 1:19:49 AM

mf2385 said:
I'm not getting any modular psu lower then like 850 because I want it to last when I get some more hard drives, and stuff when I need.


Why would you think that a lower Watt PSU won't last. If anything it will be overkill because if you have a set up now that uses 500 Watts in the future new hardware will use even less.

This is more than enough now and will be more than enough in years to come. Mores drives isn't going to suck much more power it will still be more than enough.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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January 13, 2013 1:20:16 AM

rds1220 said:
I agree it is a waste I've aready told him SLI has it's problems and isn't worth it for a single monitor setup but he seems dead set on it.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


It's not a waste if I intend on getting another monitor or two in the next 6-12 months. Also I could sell them and get new-gen if need be, most likely won't need it. I'm looking at modular 750-850 for it to be safe, when I want to get more drives, maybe an ssd or something else later on.
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January 13, 2013 1:28:56 AM

See my post above. I have already told you atleast five times now that you don't need a power supply that big. Again your build is only going to use 483 Watt's if you get a 650 Watt PSU that still leaves plenty of room for overclocking both the GPU's and CPU and more drives. I'm done arguing this I've given you plenty of advice if you want to get a 850 Watt PSU fine but I am telling you it is overkill.
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January 13, 2013 1:30:19 AM

I am getting a better psu I'm sorry dude, lol I am talking to my friend who does this kind of a thing for a living and says I need 20% headway anyway and it's always good to have it.

rds1220 said:
Why would you think that a lower Watt PSU won't last. If anything it will be overkill because if you have a set up now that uses 500 Watts in the future new hardware will use even less.

This is more than enough now and will be more than enough in years to come.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=1483

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January 13, 2013 1:32:28 AM

I appreciate your help and all solid points you listed above, and I will take those points under advisement. Thanks again.

rds1220 said:
See my post above. I have already told you atleast five times now that you don't need a power supply that big. Again your build is only going to use 483 Watt's if you get a 650 Watt PSU that still leaves plenty of room for overclocking both the GPU's and CPU and more drives. I'm done arguing this I've given you plenty of advice if you want to get a 850 Watt PSU fine but I am telling you it is overkill.

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January 13, 2013 1:32:40 AM

Why are you having this thread then?

Close this thread please.
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January 13, 2013 1:40:50 AM

I appreciate everybody's input, there's things I want to hear that maybe you don't like or I don't like. Thanks for your concern.

ohyouknow said:
Why are you having this thread then?

Close this thread please.

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January 13, 2013 1:42:53 AM

mf2385 said:
I am getting a better psu I'm sorry dude, lol I am talking to my friend who does this kind of a thing for a living and says I need 20% headway anyway and it's always good to have it.


I do too I have probably been doing it longer and built more custom PC's, Look at my sig I have an 850 Watts PSU and even with two video cards, overclocked I5 and custom water loop it doesn't draw anywhere near 850 Watts. It is overkill and was a waste of my money. Next time I upgrade the new hardware will use even less power and be even more overkill. You do need head room and 483 Watts out of 650 (with almost 200 Watts extra) gives you more than enough room.
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January 13, 2013 1:54:35 AM

ohyouknow said:
Why are you having this thread then?

Close this thread please.


that's a rather bad attitude good sir. To think that a thread should be closed after you have stated your case is in bad form. Now in truth, what you say is good information

and nobody can or fault you for that. Your attitude that this thread should be closed is rather self-centered and makes the positive information you contributed to this post

rather irrelevant now. To think that you are the only person who should post in a thread and then close it cuz the OP isnt going to do what you want is rather childish.

so to any moderators watching i am hoping you wont close this thread as i for one am still wanting to see OTHER posts.

Good day to you ohyouknow
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January 13, 2013 2:17:56 AM

The OP has a clear mind made up on what he wants to do regarding power supplies and so forth which is what I was referring to. Which is where my comment stems from. I do wish him all the best and don't mind if my suggestions are taken or not.

Cheers.
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