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January 13, 2013 3:21:58 PM

"If you want something done right, do it yourself."

I have been researching the parts I want for my first gaming computer for well over 2 months now. I know what I want and have gone as far as to put it together through websites such as cyberpowerpc.com and ibuypower.com (same company?).

After reading some of the unfavorable reviews of these sites and seeing comments all over about how assembly isn't that hard, I am thinking I can just order the parts and put it together myself.

I have never done this before so naturally I am nervous. I watched the video Newegg release on building your own PC and that helped a little but I'm curious what you guys think.

The build I have now is around $1,000 and I fear I will do something wrong and jack up all of my expensive parts.

Help?

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a b B Homebuilt system
January 13, 2013 3:44:06 PM

List your parts.

Get a $5 wrist strap if u r concerned about static.
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January 13, 2013 3:58:43 PM

I was in teh same boat as you about building my first PC.. What do I do, should I do it?

I've never built one before. But I decided to do it anyways. When I got started I found that it was actually extremely easy. Probably the main reason is that all the parts mostly only have 1 slot to be put into. (exception being Ram, and GPU's which will have anywhere from 2-4 slots each) but that's just for expansions.

If you are still worried about doing it yourself there are many many videos on youtube on how to do it yourself. A tip though is when ever you go and grab your electronics, just put your hand on something metal just incase you hold a static charge.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 13, 2013 4:03:56 PM

whats ur country u live in and whats ur maximum budget.

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January 13, 2013 4:10:31 PM

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced ($139 - Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: i5-3470 ($199 - Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: ASRock z77 Extreme 4 ($127.99 - Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I know this mobo is great for OC'ing, and that my CPU isn't. But I have never OC'ed before and fear I will ruin everything going in blind. Basically, I either need suggestions for a better mobo with the i5-3470, or I need a ton of help getting into OC.

RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance ($47.99 - Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: AMD Radeon 7850 2GB ($194.99 - Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Corsair CX600 ($69.99 - Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage: 1 TB Seagate Barracuda ($79.99 - Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical: ASUS 24X DVD Burner ($19.99 - Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That's pretty much it. I will install Windows 7 Home Premium, and don't need a mouse or keyboard.

@butremor: The help I am asking for is basically what problems did you encounter on your first build? Do I need a wireless access point? Are there any changes you would make in my build that are near budget? What network cards are best?

Just general help.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 13, 2013 4:12:46 PM

im asking whats ur budget, i can probably build something better for the price.

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January 13, 2013 4:13:21 PM

iceclock said:
whats ur country u live in and whats ur maximum budget.



I live near Dallas, TX. The maximum is $1,200 but it has to be able to be too good to pass up. For now, I am only playing WoW, but that will change as I am just now getting into PC gaming. I prefer to run games on high/ultra for a few years, but will sacrifice preference if the price gets too high.

Seeing as I am coming from a 2GB Mac that could only run WoW on the absolute bare minimum, this new rig will be a HUGE upgrade.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 13, 2013 4:20:56 PM

do u require a monitor,. soundcard?

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January 13, 2013 4:24:22 PM

iceclock said:
do u require a monitor,. soundcard?

No and no.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 13, 2013 4:26:21 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xtYs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xtYs/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xtYs/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE82 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive ($24.06 @ Compuvest)
Total: $1091.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 21:16 EST-0500)
more than enought juice, to overclock that 7950 to 7970 levels, thats even faster than a gtx 680 at times, also the cpu can overclock to over 4,5gigahertz easy.

and the rest is solid components to go with that :) 
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January 13, 2013 5:01:18 PM

iceclock said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xoTb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xoTb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xoTb/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($110.55 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($83.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE82 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive ($24.06 @ Compuvest)
Total: $1083.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 13:25 EST-0500)

more than enought juice, to overclock that 7950 to 7970 levels, thats even faster than a gtx 680 at times, also the cpu can overclock to over 4,5gigahertz easy.

and the rest is solid components to go with that :) 


That looks pretty sweet. Definitely an upgrade from what I put down.

I do have a couple of questions.

-Are all parts (cpu, mobo, gpu, etc.) similar as far as installation goes?
-What all tools will i need for this build?
-Will this setup last me a good 3-4 years of gaming at high/ultra?

Also, I want to thank you for going out of your way to help a noob get his foot in the door not only to this community, but also to building.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 13, 2013 5:07:31 PM

yes, phillips screwdriver, , also even if u spent 2k american dollars, wouldnt last on ultra for 2 years, but u will get good performance for a few years atleast, if u wanna run the latest games on ultra ull have to upgrade ur graphic card down the road, but u can always add a second 7950 :)  as a crossfire setup.

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January 13, 2013 5:15:01 PM

So apparently there is a microcenter in the DFW area, so I can go to Micro Center and get the i5-3570k for $169.99!

Am I stupid for sitting here typing instead of dashing out of the door?!?
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 13, 2013 5:20:14 PM

no lol, but if theres a microcenter run for the hills of digital coolness :D 

go get that intel i5 :D  it will scream.

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January 13, 2013 5:32:16 PM

Hi, get the i5-3570k+asrock z77 extreme 4, it has a discount combo, it goes for 80$ the mobo and 170$ the i5-3570k on microcenter.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($369.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive ($24.06 @ Compuvest)
Total: $1067.55

For your needs a 660 ti will do, if it's just wow gaming, change the card for a 660ti or 660 gtx or 7870/7850.
If you don't plan to add another card(crossfire or SLI, i don't think you will), 650w is plenty and you save some bucks.
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January 13, 2013 5:42:17 PM

@iceclock

I have seen alot of people raving about the great deals that Micro Center has so I'm lucky that I have one close to home.

@ProperBuilds

I am not seeing the discount on those two items from the Micro Center website. Any money I can save initially will be going towards the case most likely. I am pretty sure I am in love with the Corsair Obsidian 800D.



I will be picking the processor up in the next day or so and start compiling the parts for a free Saturday when I can put it all together.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 13, 2013 6:23:02 PM

good, well the corsair obsidian is nice but overpriced.

the case i took looks just as good and alot cheaper :) 

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January 13, 2013 6:37:59 PM

iceclock said:
good, well the corsair obsidian is nice but overpriced.

the case i took looks just as good and alot cheaper :) 


Agreed.
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January 13, 2013 6:50:31 PM

I looked at the case you suggested just now. They are very similar an you're right, the antec case is much cheaper. I really like the window side panel.

One of the reasons that I am loving this forum.
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January 13, 2013 9:42:14 PM

Regarding GPU's, should I be looking for:

GeForce GTX 670 2GB or the AMD Radeon 7950 3GB?

Again, I am primarily a gamer.
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January 13, 2013 9:48:26 PM

Hi, the 670 GTX is a better gpu.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 13, 2013 9:55:05 PM

the gtx 670 is more expensive, and when overclocked the 7950 will hit 7970 levels that beat a stock gtx 680!, so yeah the 7950 is a better bang for bucks card.

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a b B Homebuilt system
January 13, 2013 10:08:44 PM

Both gpus are good - i'd either go cheapest or the one with the best free game bundle.
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January 13, 2013 11:41:37 PM

Sounds like I am going with the 7950!

It's quite a bit cheaper and I do plan on OC'ing.

@J_e_d_70

With exceptions to the case and storage, I will be building a rig almost identical to yours.


I'm nervous right now. The new Micro Center ad comes out tomorrow and I am praying that I will still be able to get the i5-3570K and the asrock extreme 4 mobo for a bundle price of ~$265 instead of having to pay $305 for the pair. FINGERS CROSSED!!!

@iceclock

I noticed in your build you suggested for me that you included 16GB of G.Skill sniper RAM. Is that as good as or better than Corsair Vengeance?
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 14, 2013 12:17:22 AM

ive revised the build:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xtYs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xtYs/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xtYs/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE82 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive ($24.06 @ Compuvest)
Total: $1091.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 21:16 EST-0500)

also i took corsair and a better mobo in my opinion

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a b B Homebuilt system
January 14, 2013 12:18:40 AM

Whatever you do, get a GPU with a multiple fan cooler. I have a reference cooled card and it's loud. Bleh.

If you're getting the Extreme4, go into the bios and turn down the fan profile. I set a target of 60C. With the Evo, never makes a sound under load and stays cool. If you leave the fan profile at the default you'll need earplugs.

If for some reason you go with four sticks of ram instead of two, will need to go low profile since the Evo will block the fourth ram slot slightly.

Have fun!

Another tip is to connect your rear fan to the mobo's secondary CPU fan header (the bios runs both of them). That way if your CPU is cool both the heatsink and exhaust fans rpm stays low, or both spin up as temps increase. Make sense?
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January 14, 2013 12:30:18 AM

Yeah basically the fans work in tandem to cool the CPU. Right? Also, is the 7950 a multi fan cooled GPU?

I'm really excited to start this build.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 14, 2013 12:39:41 AM

er depends some coolers got 2 fans, on it, the one i chose i beleive has 2 or 3.

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January 14, 2013 12:43:33 AM

Hi, get the 7950 sapphire, it has dual fan system, dual bios with boost, overclocks well.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 14, 2013 1:57:18 AM

yes it was already suggested proper :) 

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January 14, 2013 2:15:26 PM

Best answer selected by TizzlePain.
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January 14, 2013 2:18:31 PM

iceclock said:
ive revised the build:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xtYs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xtYs/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xtYs/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($274.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE82 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive ($24.06 @ Compuvest)
Total: $1091.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 21:16 EST-0500)

also i took corsair and a better mobo in my opinion


This is the final parts list I am using with exception of the CPU cooler. I am going with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO instead of the Xigmatek Dark Knight. It is a little bit cheaper and very popular from what I can tell.

If anyone has any last second suggestions/thoughts, please let me know.

I will do my best to keep everyone updated and will most likely be back asking for installation help in the near future. Wish me luck!
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 14, 2013 2:37:50 PM

alright, thats a fine change, and if u require more assistance feel free to private message me for help.

joe aka the iceman clock.

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January 14, 2013 4:30:18 PM

I really appreciate your help, Joe. I can guarantee that you will have a message from me in the near future regarding the build.

Taylor aka the noob.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 14, 2013 4:55:31 PM

alright no problem anytime dude :) 
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January 14, 2013 5:18:11 PM

It looks like I will be going with the Sapphire 100352-2L Radeon 7950 3GB. The Power Color version only appeared to have a single cooling fan while the Sapphire version clearly has 2 and since I will be dabbling with OC'ing, I would like the card to be as cool as possible.

Some of the reviews mentioned that the card is very large and in some cases blocks other ports on the mobo. Is there any way to ensure that my mobo/case can handle it or is it more of a trial and error process?

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a b B Homebuilt system
January 14, 2013 5:21:02 PM

well its not the mobo its the case size,

and im pretty shur should fit :) 

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