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January 13, 2013 6:59:19 PM

Hello. I put this together and need to hear some advice. I'm moving from gaming on an xbox 360 to PC. So I haven't had much experience with this stuff. Will these parts last me a long time? Are they from reliable brands, etc.? I need this to last me about five years. My budget is $2000.
So let me know if you've had bad experience with any of these part manufacturers or have better ideas. I will be doing a lot of hardcore gaming on this build. Thank you!

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

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a b 4 Gaming
January 13, 2013 10:19:42 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xsHJ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xsHJ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xsHJ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 Thunderbolt ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($239.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($302.86 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($302.86 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Z PCIe 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($144.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1875.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 19:19 EST-0500)

:) 

quite more solid build, and cheaper than urs on newegg :) 

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a b 4 Gaming
January 13, 2013 10:23:19 PM

Iceclock's build is much better. AMD cpu's have no place in a $2000 rig.

The only problem is the micro center prices. The CPU price is instore only and if OP does not live near one, hes gonna have to fork over another $100 for the i7
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a b 4 Gaming
January 13, 2013 10:36:05 PM

Its a mistake to spend 2K on a gamer .

Even a $600 computer will give you much higher detail than an XBOX

IMO the smart money is to spend $1000 - 1100 at most
and use the money you dont spend in in 18 months to upgrade your graphics card

i5 3570K
Z77 motherboard
2 x4 gig of RAM [ you dont need more ]
Radeon 7970 , or nVidia GTX 670

Or

AMD FX 8350
990 FX motherboard
2 x4 gig of RAM
Radeon 7970 , or nVidia GTX 670


Either build would need AT MOST a 750 watt psu
Gaming performance will be identical since you will play any game on ultra settings at 1080P resolution
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a b 4 Gaming
January 13, 2013 10:40:08 PM

well he asked what he can get for 2k, and i delivered :) 

its usually suggested to provide what the op asks for, of course cheaper suggestions are quite welcomed :) 


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a b 4 Gaming
January 14, 2013 12:40:46 AM

just added it in there since onboard sound isnt up to par with good addin cards.

so i said whynot for the hell of it :) 

and theres an ssd in my build.

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January 14, 2013 4:09:59 AM

iceclock said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xsHJ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xsHJ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xsHJ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 Thunderbolt ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($239.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($302.86 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($302.86 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Z PCIe 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($144.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1875.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 19:19 EST-0500)

:) 

quite more solid build, and cheaper than urs on newegg :) 


Hey iceclock! Thanks for the suggestions, but I have some questions. The CPU you chose is over 100 dollars more and only performs slightly better.
i7-3770k: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3...
AMD 8350: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eig...

I might consider the storage options for the extra space. Not sure about the video cards. I noticed those are a step behind the one I chose. Shouldn't I just get the 7970 for the performance and spend less. Having two lower end cards will only cost me more, but perform less, right?

Also, I will keep the Blu Ray drive. Would like to watch Blu Rays as well.
I also need Windows 7 Professional, because my roommate wants be to join my computer to our domain and he told me I can't do that with Home edition.

Thanks for putting that together! Could you all do me an extra favor and answer my questions? I'm pretty new and the thing is that my roommate is putting this together ,not me. So I have little experience. He's just not too up to date on the latest computer stuff, so he advised that I put a list together and check a forum.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 14, 2013 4:17:09 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xweu
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xweu/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xweu/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 Thunderbolt ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($239.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Microcenter)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Z PCIe 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($144.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($135.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1665.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 01:16 EST-0500)

heres a reduced cost system, with what u asked, and the windows 7 pro :) 

the 3770k is def faster in gaming than any amd but u seem to not find the extra 100$ worthy if so, this build with the 3570k will do u justice.

the extra 100$ was to future proof it for later, but if u prefer this will do just fine.

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January 14, 2013 4:21:06 AM

iceclock said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xweu
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xweu/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xweu/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 Thunderbolt ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($239.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Microcenter)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Z PCIe 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($144.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($135.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1665.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 01:16 EST-0500)

heres a reduced cost system, with what u asked, and the windows 7 pro :) 

the 3770k is def faster in gaming than any amd but u seem to not find the extra 100$ worthy if so, this build with the 3570k will do u justice.

the extra 100$ was to future proof it for later, but if u prefer this will do just fine.


Once again, well appreciated. I compared those again, and the Intel one performs quite a bit slower, but only cost about 40 dollars less. Not sure if it's worth it, so I think im gonna go with the AMD one. This means I have to chose out my previous motherboard, right?

Also, when you say future proof, how is performing the roughly the same going to make it more future proof? I'll tell you what, I plan to turn this into a server in a few years when it stops playing the latest games. So I definitely don't plant to retire this machine anytime soon. So what do you mean?>
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a b 4 Gaming
January 14, 2013 1:36:24 PM

well it gives u 4 extra software cores, theyre called ht cores.

meaning down the road those 4 virtual extra cores on the 3770k will become handy.

such as for video-encoding, server tasks, 3d rendering u name it.

heres an amd build if u want than witch is just as good tbh.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xyHE
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xyHE/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xyHE/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 90.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($61.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($106.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: G.Skill Phoenix III 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Z PCIe 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($144.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1564.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 10:36 EST-0500)




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January 14, 2013 9:14:35 PM

iceclock said:
well it gives u 4 extra software cores, theyre called ht cores.

meaning down the road those 4 virtual extra cores on the 3770k will become handy.

such as for video-encoding, server tasks, 3d rendering u name it.

heres an amd build if u want than witch is just as good tbh.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xyHE
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xyHE/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xyHE/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 90.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($61.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($106.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: G.Skill Phoenix III 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Z PCIe 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($144.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1564.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 10:36 EST-0500)

The AMD processor isn't using virtual cores, but actual cores. I'm sure the AMD 8350 will be the better buy. The overall performance matters most, and that's what will determine how future proof it is.

@ghost712, your first build is definitely pretty good. You may be able to save a few extra bucks on a cheaper SSD for the same amount of space, but Intel is pretty reliable. That PC should last you quite a while for both gaming purposes and serving purposes. Iceclock's build will also work, just be sure you're happy with the aesthetic part of it (i.e. the case, mouse, keyboard, etc.)
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a b 4 Gaming
January 14, 2013 10:18:44 PM

actually is using modules, so its not 100% real octocore.

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January 15, 2013 3:40:59 AM

iceclock said:
actually is using modules, so its not 100% real octocore.

Well, look at that! You're right! AMD advertises it as having eight cores, but I did the research and found it that it's basically four cores threaded to eight.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350...

Even still, doing the research, the AMD 8350 will perform better than that i5 you chose.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 15, 2013 3:44:05 AM

well not really, for multitasking yes, and for gaming depends on how heavily the amd is overclocked, the amd gotta be overclocked a good ammount to equal to a lower clocked i5 3570k, but once overclocked the i5 is pretty up there.

but for a 8core, cant complain for the price just as good tbh.

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January 15, 2013 3:45:23 AM

iceclock said:
well not really, for multitasking yes, and for gaming depends on how heavily the amd is overclocked, the amd gotta be overclocked a good ammount to equal to a lower clocked i5 3570k, but once overclocked the i5 is pretty up there.

but for a 8core, cant complain for the price just as good tbh.

Touche. Guess we will have to see what OP goes with.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 15, 2013 3:46:49 AM

ive done a i7 and i5 and fx build, so he has all the options, now pick the red or blue pill neo.

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January 15, 2013 3:49:06 AM

iceclock said:
ive done a i7 and i5 and fx build, so he has all the options, now pick the red or blue pill neo.

But what happens from there, he will leave up to you. lol!
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a b 4 Gaming
January 15, 2013 1:23:35 PM

haha.

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