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January 14, 2013 12:55:38 AM

Hello Everyone :hello: 

I am planning on building a new desktop in February 2013. I have been going through the forums and it has helped me a great deal in understanding stuff that I had no idea about a couple of months back. Thanks to this community I have been able to decide what I want and have picked parts based on it. However I still need inputs as this will be my first custom desktop and I want to get the most out of it.

Approximate Purchase Date : February 2013
Budget Range: I am in Singapore, I would say roughly 1200 to 1400 USD. Parts here are more expensive.
System Usage from Most to Least Important: PC Gaming, Video Encoding (just to convert videos for my smartphone)
Are you buying a monitor: No (I have the Asus VS229H, which is good enough for now)
Do you need to buy OS: Yes
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Will be buying at retail stores here in Singapore
Location: Singapore
Parts Preferences: Intel / Nvidia
Overclocking: Maybe
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, 1080p
Additional Comments: I want to play BF3 on high settings, Do not need keyboard and mouse

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wZw4
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wZw4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wZw4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($72.51 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($437.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($100.14 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.53 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($20.79 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1265.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 21:46 EST-0500)

I specifically need inputs on the below parts and inputs on the whole build as such (compatibility / upgradability etc. )

1. CPU Cooler : I might be giving overclocking a try a few months later, but nothing extreme.
2. Motherboard : This is the part which took me the longest to decide. :pt1cable:  My reqirements are USB 3.0, Good On Board Sound, SLI Capable.
Based on my requirements and budget I decided on Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H / Asus P8Z77-V / Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (Z77)
Since I might need to get a PCI WiFi card and want to get a sound card ( uses PCIx1 ? ) I would like to know if I will have enough PCI slots for SLI in the future with these motherboards.
3. Video Card : I will be getting the GPU probably in March ( Budget constraints :(  ). Which make/model of the GTX 670 would you recommend ?
4. PSU : I do not want to skimp on the PSU and since I might SLI in the future would 600-650 W be enough ?
5. Case : Any known issues with this case and any other cases you would recommend? Something with good airflow and dust filters maybe.
6. WiFi : Might need this as am gonna be shifting in a couple of months and might only have WiFi access for a while. Kindly recommend a good PCI card and would also like to know which PCI slot this one will use.

Apologise for the long post :o 
Thanks in advance for any inputs you guys can provide.


Raja :) 
January 14, 2013 2:14:48 AM

1. CPU Cooler : 212 evo to go
2. Motherboard : no comment
3. Video Card : gigabyte windforce 2GB or 4GB
4. PSU : I do not want to skimp on the PSU and since I might SLI in the future would 600-650 W be enough ? actually it is still enough, but psu need room to operate efficiently at long usage, most 650 psu doesnt have enough power pin for SLI, for safety reason, go with http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu... it is made by seasonic actually, have 4x 6+2 pcie power pin
5. Case : corsair 300r/400r
6. WiFi : no comment, why usb card? doesnt have problem with SLI
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January 14, 2013 2:20:16 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xveA
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xveA/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xveA/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($310.48 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1136.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 23:18 EST-0500)

1137$+wireless card:36$=1173$+shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total beast system for good price :) 
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January 14, 2013 3:43:18 AM

AMD Radeon said:
1. CPU Cooler : 212 evo to go
2. Motherboard : no comment
3. Video Card : gigabyte windforce 2GB or 4GB
4. PSU : I do not want to skimp on the PSU and since I might SLI in the future would 600-650 W be enough ? actually it is still enough, but psu need room to operate efficiently at long usage, most 650 psu doesnt have enough power pin for SLI, for safety reason, go with http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu... it is made by seasonic actually, have 4x 6+2 pcie power pin
5. Case : corsair 300r/400r
6. WiFi : no comment, why usb card? doesnt have problem with SLI


Thanks for the reply

Video Card : From the reviews I was going to choose either the Gigabyte or the Asus versions.

PSU : I was looking for a modular PSU, however if I can get a good non-modular PSU for price less than the modular one then I think I will take that. And the Corsair TX you recommend seems to be a good one.

Case : Thanks for the reommendation. The 400R looks very promising.

WiFi : Yes I could go for a USB type, however I am skeptical on how good they would perform.
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January 14, 2013 3:45:00 AM

for wifi,. i own a usb one and works great, the msi is just as good as the gigabyte and asus.

the one i recommanded is fully modular, and will not restrict airflow.

and for the price the antec full tower is a better deal and gives more space :) 

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January 14, 2013 3:55:19 AM

iceclock said:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xveA
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xveA/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xveA/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($310.48 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1136.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-13 23:18 EST-0500)

1137$+wireless card:36$=1173$+shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total beast system for good price :) 



Thank you for the inputs

Storage: Any particular reasons why you choose the Seagate Barracuda over the WD Black ?
Video Card: Am thinking of sticking with Nvidia and for my budget and requirements i have chosen the 670
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred does provide more space and has good reviews, however I don't like its front grill.
Optical Drive: I will be just picking the cheaper of Samsung / Asus when I actually go and buy parts.
Operating System: I am very comfortable with Windows 7 and think I will stick with that for now.
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January 14, 2013 3:55:35 AM

i can agree with that but the superflower capstone 750 is just as good tbh.

superflower is the asian market equivalent of the seasonics in us, and that rosewill model is made by superflower.

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January 14, 2013 3:58:25 AM

heres my revision with the additions u wanted:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xw6v
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xw6v/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xw6v/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($353.48 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($95.68 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1082.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 00:58 EST-0500)

the barracudas just as fast but 60$ less atleast.

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January 14, 2013 4:04:36 AM

AMD Radeon said:
this one is the king of modular PSU 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



This is the one I was thinking of earlier.

Just to make sure, if I don't SLI will a 660 W PSU suffice ?

And I have read somewhere about a sound / whine from the 660 W Seasonic X series. Any idea about this?

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January 14, 2013 4:05:59 AM

well ive heard of certain ones having fan bearing coils, but seasonic makes a huge ammount of powersupplies any company who manufactures huge ammounts of products will have a few imperfect products, in general thats a solid powersupply and shouldnt have a whining coiling sound.

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January 14, 2013 4:07:09 AM

iceclock said:
i can agree with that but the superflower capstone 750 is just as good tbh.

superflower is the asian market equivalent of the seasonics in us, and that rosewill model is made by superflower.



I have not seen Superflower / Rosewill PSUs here in Singapore yet. Most stores here have Seasonic though.

So you would recommend Seasonic over Corsair ?



Thanks.
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January 14, 2013 4:08:20 AM

well depends on the model, but the ax or axi models are just as good as the seasonic gold models.

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January 14, 2013 4:08:39 AM

also in asia its called superflower, not rosewill, rosewill is just the company reselling a rebadged superflower on the us market.

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January 14, 2013 4:21:15 AM

iceclock said:
heres my revision with the additions u wanted:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xw6v
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xw6v/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xw6v/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($353.48 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($95.68 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1082.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 00:58 EST-0500)

the barracudas just as fast but 60$ less atleast.



Thanks for the inputs.

I will be saving around 40 Singapore Dollars on the HDD. I chose the WD Black because of the 5 year warranty, however I doubt I will need that and from the price lists looks like I could get a 2 TB Barracuda for the cost of 1 TB WD Black.

I have not seen any stores having the Mushkin RAM. I have seen Corsair / Crucial / G Skill / Kingston only in stores here.

The Fractal R4 definitely looks good and am having a tough time deciding between the R4 and Phantom 410 :( 

Any comments on the Motherboard ?
Based on my requirements and budget I decided on Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H / Asus P8Z77-V / Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (Z77)
Since I might need to get a PCI WiFi card and want to get a sound card ( uses PCIx1 ? ) I would like to know if I will have enough PCI slots for SLI in the future with these motherboards.



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January 14, 2013 4:26:56 AM

the one i recommanded is fully modular, and will not restrict airflow.
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January 14, 2013 1:21:21 PM

Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (Z77)

the p877v is prob a good bit more than the z77 and i dont trust integrated wifi tbh.

id go with the case u prefer the look of , ghost or no ghost? that is the question.

goodluck mate

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January 14, 2013 11:09:48 PM

Noob12 said:
Go for Asus P8Z77-V because it has wifi. So you do not need any wifi card. And wifi do not take any place pci-e or pci slots on mobo. Gigabyte have a good wifi+ bluetooth system too.
maybe a better prosessor? Intel xeon 1230V2
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...
better performance than 3570k
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3...
its like a i7 for a price i5 prosessor.



Yes I did see that the Asus has built-in wifi, however like iceblock has stated I am skeptical of such built-in modules.

As for the processor, I chose this after reading a lot of reviews and articles stating that for a gamer this would be more than enough. I chose the K as it has the interl HD 4000 graphics (might need this as I moght get the GPU a month or two later) and it gives me the option to overclock in the future.

I have not been able to find prices for the Xeon yet, but given the higher performance I doubt it will fit in my budget.

Thanks for the inputs. :) 
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January 14, 2013 11:17:39 PM

iceclock said:
Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (Z77)

the p877v is prob a good bit more than the z77 and i dont trust integrated wifi tbh.

id go with the case u prefer the look of , ghost or no ghost? that is the question.

goodluck mate



Hahaha "ghost or no ghost". Guess I will decide after seeing the case in the store.

Yeah am also skeptical about the built-in wifi.

Thanks :) 

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January 14, 2013 11:32:10 PM

well get the build i made + a decent wifi pci-express card :) 

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January 21, 2013 11:41:18 PM

iceclock said:
well get the build i made + a decent wifi pci-express card :) 


Thanks for the input.

SSD : I have not been able to find prices for Samsung, so guess I will pick a 128GB one that suits my budget.

Motherboard : I am having second thoughts on the motherboard though.. Wondering if it would be worth the extra money to get an Asus P8Z77 V Pro ( approx. 100 Singapore $ more than the Extreme 4) or maybe even an Asrock Extreme 6.. Wish I had the money to get an Asus Maximus V Extreme / Formula .. Love the red and black theme.. One can dream..

And I have been reading up and watching videos on building PCs.. Am hoping to build it myself.. My past experience only involves adding and removing harddrives and RAM which doesn't count for much..

Will be back in coupla weeks after reviewing my budget and reading up a lot more..
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