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November 30, 2012 7:16:57 AM

For pentium D 2.80Ghz processor i want a graphic card under 3k but which will work well with 250w PSU and PCI-e x16 slot.
currently i have 8400GS 512 mb but i am thinking to buy forsa nvidia 610 1 gb ddr3.
"http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Forsa+Geforce+GT610+2...(F-NH-G610204B38L4G-171L)_C45P15916.html"

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HD 6450
"http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Sapphire+Radeon+HD645..."


I know that My pc is too outdated but I cant spend anything more on it please help guys....
and yes please also suggest any other graphic card under 3k if better than above 1gb is enough for me....
also consider stock 250w power supply i cant upgrage that either!! :cry:  :cry: 
a b U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 7:23:58 AM

What will you play and at which settings?
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November 30, 2012 7:32:27 AM

Sumukh_Bhagat said:
What will you play and at which settings?

i will play fifa 13 on med/high, gta iv low/med, assasins creed III low/med.
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a b U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 7:49:09 AM

You will get no difference in performance if you buy those cards. In fact, the 8400 might be better performing than the GT 610. I have experience with GT 520 (The GT 610 is just a rebadged version of the GT 520) and it is impossible to play anything other than the lowest settings possible.
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a b U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 7:57:35 AM

Ravyu is right.
You'll not get any difference until you spend around Rs.8000+
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November 30, 2012 8:09:36 AM

Ravyu said:
You will get no difference in performance if you buy those cards. In fact, the 8400 might be better performing than the GT 610. I have experience with GT 520 (The GT 610 is just a rebadged version of the GT 520) and it is impossible to play anything other than the lowest settings possible.

ok as you all say but the core clock and everything is far better than the 8400 and it is also ddr3 and mine 8400 is ddr2 will it work slightly better then or not at all??
one of my friend has a p4 pc with pci-e slot and has some amd radeon card and it is around 4k but he plays gta iv at medium setting without any lag!! the 8400 that i have is taken from him only!! before he tried to play gta iv with 8400 then it gave very unplayable FPS and lagged too much!!!
:cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  please help me i am really about to cry now as i am totally confused!!!!!
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a c 180 U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 8:14:04 AM

yes it will run. they reccommend 400w for heavy system like i7 2tb hd 16 ram....etc

whats your psu brand?
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November 30, 2012 8:17:24 AM

ASHISH65 said:
yes it will run. they reccommend 400w for heavy system like i7 2tb hd 16 ram....etc

whats your psu brand?

its iball LPE223-400 but is 5 years old!!
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a b U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 8:20:35 AM

Go and buy a Gaming Console, PS3 or Xbox 360.
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November 30, 2012 8:26:03 AM

ASHISH65 said:
it will work fine.if you can afford then buy new psu.

here is difference between 8400 and hd6450

hd6450 has less power use
http://www.hwcompare.com/10371/geforce-8400-gs-512mb-vs...

thanks ashish!!
So tell me one thing finally should i order hd6450 right now??
will it work fine with my current system specs?? including PCI-E x16??
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November 30, 2012 8:28:11 AM

Sumukh_Bhagat said:
Go and buy a Gaming Console, PS3 or Xbox 360.

I know that ps3 and xbox 360 are awesome but i cant go above 3k to buy a graphic card then ps3 and xbox are faaaar away!! :??: 
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November 30, 2012 8:29:31 AM

and whatever anyone say PC will always be the boss!!! ;)  :wahoo:  :D 
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a c 180 U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 8:34:12 AM

which motherboard you have?

how much ram you have
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November 30, 2012 8:40:00 AM

ASHISH65 said:
which motherboard you have?

how much ram you have

My Mobo is intel D101GGC and ram is 1 GB but i am gonna make it 2.5gb now so i am not upgrading psu!! :) 
please check and tell that will my mobo run 6450??
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November 30, 2012 8:54:26 AM

hey and i heard that PCI-E 2.1 have problems with PCI-E x16!!
is it true?????????????? :cry:  :cry: 
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a c 180 U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 8:56:13 AM

better to have 2gb ram for gaming.you should use win 7 as it has direct x11 support and win xp have direct x 9.0. add 1gb ram more
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a c 180 U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 9:01:05 AM

yes it is true that pci 2.1 have problem in pci e1.0.your mobo very old so ithink you should look at 2.0 pci card for safer side. its your choice sometimes 2.1 cards works in 1.0 and sometimes not. or should i reccomeend you anothor pci 2.0 card?
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November 30, 2012 9:06:23 AM

ASHISH65 said:
yes it is true that pci 2.1 have problem in pci e1.0.your mobo very old so ithink you should look at 2.0 pci card for safer side. its your choice sometimes 2.1 cards works in 1.0 and sometimes not. or should i reccomeend you anothor pci 2.0 card?

yes dude please suggest me please please please!!!!
:cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry: 
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a c 180 U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 9:32:18 AM

forsa and zotac are different card makers

ok go with forsa 610 2gb as it has extra clock speed than zotac.

happy gaming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

remember you should have atleast 2gb ram for gaming it is veryyyyyy important
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November 30, 2012 9:38:08 AM

ASHISH65 said:
forsa and zotac are different card makers

ok go with forsa 610 2gb as it has extra clock speed than zotac.

happy gaming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

remember you should have atleast 2gb ram for gaming it is veryyyyyy important

yup!!
thanxxx....
I'll go to a computer shop near my home and ask him for hd 6450 1st if he tells that it will work then i'll go with it else i'll order forsa 610 from flipkart!
ok naa?? if he says that 6450 will work then should i go with it or take 610 only????
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a c 180 U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 9:41:56 AM

ok then take hd6450 if it doesnot work then return it and buy 610
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November 30, 2012 9:45:50 AM

^ ^ This. Minimum 2GB RAM is 'very' important. Or you will not be able to play GTA IV, FIFA, Assassin's Creed III.
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November 30, 2012 9:52:42 AM

ASHISH65 said:
ok then take hd6450 if it doesnot work then return it and buy 610

ok thanxx dude u have done a lotttttttt of help to me thanks again i'll tell you which works after i buy it ok.
but can i post here after closing the topic or not??
or else i'll not close the topic till i buy!!
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November 30, 2012 9:55:11 AM

mx90 said:
^ ^ This. Minimum 2GB RAM is 'very' important. Or you will not be able to play GTA IV, FIFA, Assassin's Creed III.

hmmm... thanxx.....
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a c 180 U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 9:56:22 AM

do not close this topic. i will bookmark this page.

reply to this page in future
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November 30, 2012 12:15:55 PM

ASHISH65 said:
do not close this topic. i will bookmark this page.

reply to this page in future

hey got a problem!!!!!
i talked to the computer shop's man about gt610 he said its hard to work on pci-e x16 and it is also ddr3!!!!
what is he saying bro!!????
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November 30, 2012 12:59:41 PM

These computer shop chaps don't know anything about graphics cards. Which PCI version does your mobo has ? Most cards now days are PCI-e 2.1. And according to Wikipedia it is compatible with all older versions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_2....

"PCI Express 2.1
PCI Express 2.1 supports a large proportion of the management, support, and troubleshooting systems planned for full implementation in PCI Express 3.0. However, the speed is the same as PCI Express 2.0. Unfortunately, the increase in power from the slot breaks backward compatibility between PCI Express 2.1 cards and some older motherboards with 1.0/1.0a, but most motherboards with PCI Express 1.1 connectors are provided with a BIOS update by their manufacturers through utilities to support backward compatibility of cards with PCIe 2.1."

My older mobo doesn't support DDR3 RAM, but it has nothing to do with, what graphics card is, whether its DDR3 or DDR5.
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November 30, 2012 1:03:01 PM

and stop crying.
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a c 180 U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 1:54:00 PM

nikshirsat_1997 said:
hey got a problem!!!!!
i talked to the computer shop's man about gt610 he said its hard to work on pci-e x16 and it is also ddr3!!!!
what is he saying bro!!????


the shopkeeper is mad.in india most of the computer shopkeeper not have a knowledge at all.

go get gt 610 from flipkart
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November 30, 2012 2:11:08 PM

To be honest, he will be wasting Rs.3000 for GT 610, as he already has 8400. There will not be much difference. GT 630 will be a smart choice if you can shell out 4000.

http://goo.gl/vNP1N

But, that too, if you have atleast 2GB RAM. That is must.

So, better option would be get atleast 2GB RAM for now, as all other said 610 wont be worth it. Later when you have money get a GT 630. Then you will be able to play your games at 'low' settings.
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a c 180 U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 2:40:07 PM

gt 630 is better card.but he has bugdet limit.if he upgrade to 630 then he will also have to change psu. gt 610 will play game at low-med settings

here is compare- gt 610 is 191% powerful than 8400gs

http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?gc_make=N... requirements
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November 30, 2012 3:03:42 PM

ASHISH65 said:
gt 630 is better card.but he has bugdet limit.if he upgrade to 630 then he will also have to change psu. gt 610 will play game at low-med settings

here is compare- gt 610 is 191% powerful than 8400gs

http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?gc_make=N... requirements

ok tommorow i will order it whatever happens....
just one last question is bios update needed to work 2.0 graphics cards!!???
i found that many peoples said that we need latest bios installed in order to run 2.0 or 2.1 cards!!
i havnt done any bios update since i purchased my pc think so before 5-6 years!!!
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a c 180 U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 3:13:41 PM

yes sometimes bios updates works. ok i look for is there any bios updates
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November 30, 2012 3:39:11 PM

ok but how to do that update????
u sure it won't mess up my pc????
please tell me in detail and I don't have a floppy or cd drive all I have is a 4 gb pendrive!!
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a b U Graphics card
November 30, 2012 3:40:44 PM

dont get forsa 610. they are not well known brand and you may run in trouble if anything goes wrong with the card. just be safe and get zotac or evga or gigabyte or galaxy gt 610.
all these are much better than forsa.
also note that 610 is twice as powerful as 8400gs but its still a *** card for gaming.
better save up some money and get gt 630 or regret your purchase. gt 630 is the MINIMUM for gaming even on lowest settings.
and dont worry 630 will work fine on.your 250 watt psu i assure you.
so SAVE UP some money and get 630
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December 1, 2012 2:15:40 AM

mx90 said:
To be honest, he will be wasting Rs.3000 for GT 610, as he already has 8400. There will not be much difference. GT 630 will be a smart choice if you can shell out 4000.

http://goo.gl/vNP1N

But, that too, if you have atleast 2GB RAM. That is must.

So, better option would be get atleast 2GB RAM for now, as all other said 610 wont be worth it. Later when you have money get a GT 630. Then you will be able to play your games at 'low' settings.


mohit9206 said:
dont get forsa 610. they are not well known brand and you may run in trouble if anything goes wrong with the card. just be safe and get zotac or evga or gigabyte or galaxy gt 610.
all these are much better than forsa.
also note that 610 is twice as powerful as 8400gs but its still a *** card for gaming.
better save up some money and get gt 630 or regret your purchase. gt 630 is the MINIMUM for gaming even on lowest settings.
and dont worry 630 will work fine on.your 250 watt psu i assure you.
so SAVE UP some money and get 630


This is what I said him earlier. But he didn't care to read it.

So, let him go for his own decision, he will regret later for sure.
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a b U Graphics card
December 1, 2012 4:59:22 AM

With that GT610 or GT630 you'll never cross 1GB of your Cards memory. Why? Because games require more memory when you play on high settings, but those cards can't play the new games on 1240x1024 Medium settings or more. Hence, you should look for performance than the memory.
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a b U Graphics card
December 1, 2012 5:02:22 AM

The best you can do is to save money now and get a better card in future.
Or sell your 8800GS around Rupees 1500 and add it and get a better card.

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December 1, 2012 5:36:08 AM

Sumukh_Bhagat said:
The best you can do is to save money now and get a better card in future.
Or sell your 8800GS around Rupees 1500 and add it and get a better card.


Its 8400GS, not 8800GS. No one will buy used 8400GS for even Rs.500. Some vendor whom you know, may keep it if you buy a new one from him.

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a b U Graphics card
December 1, 2012 5:52:18 AM

Oh yeah thats 8400GS, but you can find many people who will buy a used GPU for a Rupees 1000.
I'm too a Indian and I know many people in India still don't know that a gpu performs better because of the technology not the VRAM installed.

Give it to your relatives, sell it to your friends or put it into Online selling sites like Ebay and OLX.
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December 1, 2012 6:10:34 AM

my friend has zotac nvidia 210 1 gb and he is able to play assasin's creed all versions on med setting all fifa on very high settings gta iv on med!!!!
610 must be better even a little bit!!!
i need the card only for a year then i am gonna buy a gaming laptop!!
nor i need xtreme performance form the card even on low settings its ok for 1 year n not a big deal!!!!
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a b U Graphics card
December 1, 2012 6:29:34 AM

You should be able to play good. As you said you want that for this year only, its enough.



But buying a gaming laptop costs around 80,000 (Alienware ones, they are only good) whereas you can get a GTX 670 + i5 3570k and other good stuff for that much.

Laptop will rarely give good fps at max settings and they have a small screen. Many costly around 1 Lakh will be good. But at that you can get a gtx 690.

Buy a gaming laptop ONLY for its portability or else its a waste.

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