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January 13, 2013 11:23:46 PM

Just joined the Forum today. I've been using some previous threads for research purposes, but realised it was better to just ask specific questions for myself.

I'm looking to build a desktop pc solely for gaming purposes. I guess the first thing to state is the performance I would like from the Machine.

Well, I'd like it to be able to play all the current titles (genres from Skyrim to Battlefield 3, to Alan Wake) while also being able (in a number of years time) to still be performing to at least the same standard as the next gen consoles, PS4, next gen x-box etc (I'm aware most of the specs in this case will be rough conjecture.

Part of the fun for me is to do this on quite a tight budget (Mainly due to money constraints) but also, I'm your average gamer, I play most days after work so don't require anything ludicrously hardcore. And as I've stated above, I'm new to this so I don't want anything mega-expensive. So I guess my first question is, how cheaply could I achieve the afore mentioned goals?

Firstly Processors. I'd like to stay under £90 just now, and I'm set on that. So far I've only looked at AMD. (I will look at Intel, I'm working my way through, doing my research) I have seen previous posts from you guys saying Intel is the way to go, so I'd like some info on chips under the £90 mark? The AMD processors that come into my budget are: Bulldozer FX-6100, Phenom II X4 965. Now what I'm wondering is? Will these stack up against games thrown at them in two years time? I've been looking into Overclocking too, so, throw anything at me, I'm keen to learn.

Next is the motherboard. Is there one I could buy, that would be, say, overkill for the 965, but perhaps in two years, cope with an upgraded processor? I know it probably sounds odd to you guys, but I'm not against buying an older intel processor from e-bay and then upgrading in a year or so, when these i5, i7 ones go down in price (if they will that is).

My third and final question, before I irk you guys with too many questions, is. Am I starting in the right place, choosing the processor and motherboard first? Is this where most of you began your first build. Just so you know, I'm aware of sights like PCSpecialist and so on, that do builds for you, but as I'm sure you guys appreciate, I'm keen to make this a 'Project', something I can actually learn something from and have a bit of fun you know. Hense why I'm consulting you guys.

Cheers guys. Thanks so much for taking the time to read what must seem to you lot total rubbish!
January 13, 2013 11:39:23 PM

Hi :) 

TOTAL budget ?

All the best Brett :) 
January 14, 2013 12:13:46 AM

Hey man, thanks for replying.

To be honest, I've not really got a total budget in my head. All I know is that I want to keep costs down. I know that is less than helpful. Really sorry

I guess what I said above:

*"Well, I'd like it to be able to play all the current titles (genres from Skyrim to Battlefield 3, to Alan Wake, Crysis two) while also being able (in a number of years time) to still be performing to at least the same standard as the next gen consoles, PS4, next gen x-box etc (I'm aware most of the specs in this case will be rough conjecture)" *

What is the minimum price I could achieve the above for do you think? (I'm not asking you to go and find everything for me, just a rough estimation)

Do you think the phenom ii x4 965 or bulldozer fx6100 would do what I want? I've also found these two motherboards: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 at 50 quid and the Asus M5A78L-M LX V2 at 40.

I guess these are pointers for what I'm looking at just now. So I really don't know, I guess what I'm asking, again is, how cheap do you roughly think I can achieve the above * for?

Sorry for being so non-specific.
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January 14, 2013 12:19:30 AM

Hi :) 

Your main problem is that phrase "in a number of years time"

I will be able to with my 7990 but it costs £750/$1000 ...for the graphics card ALONE...

So budget DOES matter ??? To do what you ask as regards the future...I would tell a customers in my shops, who asked that...probably £3000 ...

So with the future thing...its NOT going to be cheap :( 

All the best Brett :) 
January 14, 2013 12:33:15 AM

Thanks again for replying.

I'm sorry man, I've not really phrased it right at all. I'm clearly looking for something that is far inferior to that sort of price.

I think I'm looking at about £600 for the full thing. What I want is a machine that will still be competent (still be able to play new releases) two years from now. Not at a ridiculous high end (Ultra high) but maybe on medium settings.

If I go with either of the processors I've mentioned could I achieve this or do I have to go higher?
January 14, 2013 12:44:00 AM

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Thanks again for replying.

I'm sorry man, I've not really phrased it right at all. I'm clearly looking for something that is far inferior to that sort of price.

I think I'm looking at about £600 for the full thing. What I want is a machine that will still be competent (still be able to play new releases) two years from now. Not at a ridiculous high end (Ultra high) but maybe on medium settings.

If I go with either of the processors I've mentioned could I achieve this or do I have to go higher?



Hi :) 

Ok ...the way i would look at this is as follows...

For a GAMING machine you NEED to spend one third of your budget on the graphics card.... that's £200...

The 965 and a mobo plus ALL the other bits have got to come from the other four hundred quid... (including an OS)

All the best Brett :) 
January 14, 2013 1:03:05 AM

Cheers dude. This is good to know.

Thanks for your help.
January 14, 2013 1:17:13 AM

I'd seriously be looking at the cheaper Intel i5's - the ones you can't overclock won't be bottlenecking a graphics card for a long time to come.

When it comes to future proofing, the biggest thing (if you have a decent processor) is the graphics card - you can't future proof it. You're ALWAYS going to be better off spending a little less and buying another card three years down the road than you are blowing your money now and waiting six years.

That being said, I highly reccommend you wait a little bit till the AMD 8000 series graphics cards come out - they're going to have a fair bit more power at the same or cheaper price points, if everything turns out the way it's rumored to.
January 14, 2013 12:46:57 PM

Nobody can guarantee you that yout PC will be good in two eyars simply because the new consoles aren't out yet.
And still if you want a good gaming PC for 600 quid, this is pretty much as good as it gets.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£130.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus P8B75-M LX PLUS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£47.04 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£34.50 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£215.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Inwin MANA137 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£4.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£39.95 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer (£13.98 @ Novatech)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£59.94 @ Aria PC)
Total: £607.31
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 14:45 GMT+0000)
January 14, 2013 1:06:29 PM

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