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January 14, 2013 1:21:37 PM

So I've been assigned the task to build a new computer in our rack area. Please forgive, if I dont use the correct terminology here

Basicaly need a rack mounted chasis(have plenty of space for up to 6u), Which I can find. My main concern is where to focus on the hardware.

We only need this computer to access files from Office programs(Excel & Word) PDF's, Photos, etc.. as well as our Quickbooks company file. That is pretty much it. have about 10 computers needing access. Speed is the main concern, data size is not that large. Currently, we have two solid states intel 520's(one for quickbooks, one for all else) on one of the work station computers and all others access it. We are running win 7 pro on everything except on computer running XP for attached hardware requirements(this computer is not important)

looking for suggestions on components in the areas I need to focus on. Price is not a huge concern. if you need any further info ask away

Thanks in adance
January 14, 2013 1:46:25 PM

can it be a server full tower or def has to be a rackmount chassis?

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xyM9
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xyM9/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xyM9/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X79A-GD65 (8D) ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($289.48 @ Mwave)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 600GB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($250.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($233.70 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($233.70 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 6450 1GB Video Card ($34.68 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Silverstone GD01B-MXR HTPC Case ($232.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold Evolution 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($174.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $2350.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 10:46 EST-0500)

thats the hardware ud need, u can switch the htpc case for a rackmount.



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January 14, 2013 1:56:18 PM

we dont really have room in the area for anything other than a rack mount. it's in a closet. no one will directly be using this computer.

Although your build looks great, what components are needed the most for our needs. I can build work stations, but have never built a computer for a specific need like this before. And I am not that hip to what components would work best for our use, (what are te most important component needs).

For example, is the 1000w power supply needed. also, as stated we already have two intel 520 ssd's.

Someone, with little working knowledge, said I need server components(Motherboard, CPU's, RAM) but I have a feeling he is just saying that to say it.

All this is, essentially is a data warehouse, for the file types stated, that we all are acessing in a simple network
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January 14, 2013 2:13:21 PM

are u open for me to make u a prebuilt server from dell?

and yes u want alot of power for a server, to make shur nothing fails and always has reliable power.

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January 14, 2013 2:20:27 PM

well mostly cpu, ram, and storage and powersupply and chasis is the most important in a decent server box.

i got something off newegg that should do the trick.

Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price
1

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106289
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


$17.99
1

Western Digital Red WD20EFRX 2TB IntelliPower SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822236343
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$20.00 Instant


$149.99
$129.99
1

SUPERMICRO X9SRA Single Socket R (LGA 2011) E5 ATX Workstation/Server Motherboard DDR3 1600 12xUSB, 2x PCI-E 3.0 x16
Item #: N82E16813182336
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$40.00 Instant


$329.99
$289.99
1

HighPoint RocketU 1022A PCI-Express 2.0 x1 Low Profile USB 3.0 Controller Card
Item #: N82E16816115105
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$29.99 Saving
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate Card


$29.99
$0.00
1

iStarUSA D407PL-DE6BK Black Aluminum / Steel 4U Rackmount Server Chassis with 6 Trayless Hotswap Bays, Plastic Bezels
Item #: N82E16811165475
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


$299.99
1

HP 578322-B21 1200W 1200W Common Slot High Efficiency Platinum Hot Plug Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817292058
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


$399.99
1

Kingston 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ECC Registered Server Memory DR x4 Intel Model KVR16R11D4K4/32I
Item #: N82E16820239235
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
-$3.00 Instant


$242.99
$239.99
1

SILVERSTONE NT06-PRO Low Profile CPU Cooler with Thin 120mm fan
Item #: N82E16835220058
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$1.99 Instant
$5.00 Mail-in Rebate


$59.99
$58.00
1

SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820147192
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant


$149.99
$139.99
1

Intel Xeon E5-2630 Sandy Bridge-EP 2.3GHz (2.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 95W Six-Core Server Processor BX80621E52630
Item #: N82E16819117268
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy


$639.99
Subtotal: $2,215

well got u 2tb nas drive, and a ssd for fast data travel for ur windows.




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January 14, 2013 2:22:57 PM

if you want to. dont waste too much time though. I can pick components myself though. I was kind of looking for info like, "hey you are doing this type of computing, in this type of environment, so focus on these areas. dont do this, do this." Like I said, Ive never really built a computer for a specific need, other than general work station. I am not that knowledgable
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January 14, 2013 2:25:01 PM

Thanks for you help
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January 14, 2013 2:34:01 PM

well the above setup should do u wonders as a 6core server with 32gigs of quad channel memory. and good solid chasis, a networked 2tb data drive, and a fast zippy 256gb ssd drive for ur server os.

and the 1200watt ps to make shur ur server never runs out of juice :) 

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January 14, 2013 3:13:04 PM

If prize is not a real concern, why not call IBM, HP and DELL and get there recommendations? It's not that easy to build a system with redundant power supplies, hot swap drives, ECC ram with error logging, pre-tested driver packages and all that stuff. And it's without warranty and service in any case.
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January 14, 2013 3:18:06 PM

pre built server:

i dunno but getting prebuilt is like double and more in price.


Date 1/14/2013 11:17:31 AM Central Standard Time

Catalog Number 4 Retail 04


Catalog Number / Description Product Code Qty SKU Id



PowerEdge R510:
PE R510 with up to 12 Hot Swap HDDs,LED R5112W 1 [224-8666] 1


Ship Group:
PowerEdge R510 Shipping for 12 Hot Swap HDDs/+2 Cabled HDs SHPGP12 1 [330-9977] 2


Processor:
Intel® Xeon® E5640 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1066MHz Max Mem E5640 1 [317-4110] 6


Additional Processor:
Intel® Xeon® E5640 2.66Ghz, 12M Cache,Turbo, HT, 1066MHz Max Mem 2E5640 1 [317-2374][317-4122] 7


Memory:
32GB Memory (4x8GB), 1333MHz Dual Rank LV RDIMMs 2 Processors, Mirrored 32R2PM 1 [317-6025] 3


Operating System:
No Operating System NOOS 1 [420-6320] 11


Hard Drives:
1TB 7.2K RPM SATA 3Gbps 3.5in Hot-plug Hard Drive 1TS3 2 [341-8730] 1209


Hard Drive Configuration:
RAID 1 for PERC H200/ H700 Controller Card, x12 Chassis PH27R1 1 [342-0558] 27


Internal Controller:
PERCH200i Controller with SAS7 Cable, 12HD PH200I 1 [330-9852][342-0370] 9


1st Hard Drive:
HD Multi-Select HDMULTI 1 [341-4158] 8


Power Supply:
750 Watt Redundant Power Supply 750RPS 1 [330-6598] 36


Power Cords:
2x NEMA 5-15P to C13 Wall Plug, 125 Volt, 15 AMP, 10 Feet (3m), Power Cord 2125V10 1 [310-8509][310-8509] 38


Embedded Management:
iDRAC6 Express DRAC6X 1 [313-8777] 14


Network Adapter:
2x Intel PRO 1000PT 1GbE Single Port NIC, PCIe-1 21000PS 1 [430-0955][430-0955] 13


Rails:
ReadyRails™ Sliding Rails with Cable Management Arm RRCMA 1 [330-6276] 28


Bezel:
Bezel BEZEL 1 [313-8551] 17


Internal Optical Drive:
No Internal Optical Drive NODVD12 1 [313-8574] 16


System Documentation:
Electronic System Documentation and OpenManage DVD Kit EDOC 1 [313-8552] 21


Hardware Support Services:
3 Year ProSupport and Mission Critical 2HR7x24 OnsitePack:6Hr Repair U3IPME6 1 [905-6667][905-7218][905-7258][906-0362][906-0492][906-9650][989-3439] 29


Installation Services:
ONSITE INSTALL: PowerEdge Hardware and Windows OS Install except MS SBS UBASIC 1 [984-1077] 32


Proactive Maintenance:
MAINTENANCE DECLINED NOMAINT 1 [926-2979] 33


Remote Advisory and Onsite Services:
1 Year 1 Pack Remote Advisory Services 1YRAS 1 [996-3179] 35

comes around to 7000$

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January 14, 2013 3:23:10 PM

6 core for a NAS box! What on earth for? I run a single core VM file server with 2GB of RAM for 500 users and response is excellent.

You need a minimal CPU and RAM and put the money into redundant power and disk performance.

SSD is nice, but honestly for file sharing the primary latency and bandwidth limiter is gigabit ethernet and I don't get too much different performance on a file server by using SSD vs 7200 or 10K RPM disks in an array. Gigabit ethernet caps at about 100MB/s regardless of disk configuration.

I'd probably build a RAID-5 array out of 4 disks and a controller with Flash backed write cache. Pick the cheapest RAM and CPU configuration and consider redundant power supplies.

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January 14, 2013 3:25:19 PM

well my experience in building servers is limited sorry, i talt he needed a well around main server box, i might of overkilled it :p 

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January 14, 2013 4:13:29 PM

iceclock said:
pre built server:

i dunno but getting prebuilt is like double and more in price.


Date 1/14/2013 11:17:31 AM Central Standard Time

Catalog Number 4 Retail 04


Catalog Number / Description Product Code Qty SKU Id



PowerEdge R510:
PE R510 with up to 12 Hot Swap HDDs,LED R5112W 1 [224-8666] 1


Hardware Support Services:
3 Year ProSupport and Mission Critical 2HR7x24 OnsitePack:6Hr Repair U3IPME6 1 [905-6667][905-7218][905-7258][906-0362][906-0492][906-9650][989-3439] 29


Installation Services:
ONSITE INSTALL: PowerEdge Hardware and Windows OS Install except MS SBS UBASIC 1 [984-1077] 32


Proactive Maintenance:
MAINTENANCE DECLINED NOMAINT 1 [926-2979] 33


Remote Advisory and Onsite Services:
1 Year 1 Pack Remote Advisory Services 1YRAS 1 [996-3179] 35

comes around to 7000$

But you don't have to order the 3 Year ProSupport, Installation Services, Proactive Maintenance and all that. That's what it makes expensive.
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January 14, 2013 4:20:54 PM

right good point
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January 14, 2013 4:40:09 PM

twelve25 said:
6 core for a NAS box! What on earth for? I run a single core VM file server with 2GB of RAM for 500 users and response is excellent.

You need a minimal CPU and RAM and put the money into redundant power and disk performance.

SSD is nice, but honestly for file sharing the primary latency and bandwidth limiter is gigabit ethernet and I don't get too much different performance on a file server by using SSD vs 7200 or 10K RPM disks in an array. Gigabit ethernet caps at about 100MB/s regardless of disk configuration.

I'd probably build a RAID-5 array out of 4 disks and a controller with Flash backed write cache. Pick the cheapest RAM and CPU configuration and consider redundant power supplies.


What he said!! ^

I would be looking at something closer to this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... x6 in RAID 5

Total price is about $2700 dollars, and the 6 15k drives in RAID 5 or 10 will be just as fast if not faster than the SSD's

With servers you are most concerned about reliability. Hence the multiple drives in RAID, the redundant PSU's, the ECC RAM.

Also with a server of the type you are looking at, the biggest bottleneck is going to be read/seek times on the HDD's. Distributing it over 6HDD's will virtually make this a non-existent problem, and you can always add up to 2 more drives in this chassis.
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