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January 14, 2013 6:47:37 PM

I'm looking to build my own budget gaming PC and I think that I have put together a pretty good system. If any one know parts that could give me better or equal parts for a better price please tell me, but my main concern is that I don't think I have ports for some of my fans in my PSU (CX500). I linked the fans I want to use below, I also put links to what I think to be the adapters I need to use to connect to the CX500's 4 pin peripheral power cables but I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to power supplies. If some one who understands PSUs better than I do could tell me if those are the right adapters I need or recommend the right ones or if I even need adapters. also I would like to know if the cpu cooler I have is decent enough for my processor and allow me to overclock in the future. i dont want the price to exceed around 750USD.


Links:

Full Build (apparently the one above is dead): http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xwmD

Fan 1: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER R4-L2S-122B-GP 120mm 4 Blue LED Case Fan 2 in 1 pack

Fan 2 (I'm buying two of these): Newegg.com - APEVIA CF12S-BK 120mm Case cooler

Adapter: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: Newegg.com - ARCTIC Alpine 64 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler for AMD

CPU: Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX



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a c 100 ) Power supply
January 14, 2013 6:48:36 PM

Your system link is dead
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January 14, 2013 7:00:09 PM

tiny voices said:
Your system link is dead

thanks for telling me that :) 
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a c 100 ) Power supply
January 14, 2013 7:02:34 PM

Your build looks good. I would go for an i3 3220 instead of the 965BE.

Also get 1600mhz RAM instead of the 1333mhz you have listed.
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January 14, 2013 7:09:06 PM

Yup system link is dead. But here is what I have from what I can see:

Most fans use a three pin connector. If you run out of motherboard slots you can hook them up to a molex to three pin adapter. (molex is the sheathed 4 pin that used to go on hard drives before SATA).

I’d stay away from Apevia, I have had bad luck with them.

NZXT makes some nice bridges that power four fans with one molex connector.

Beware that some case manufactures use a different standard for sizing their fans. NZXT cases will not properly mount coolermaster fans, for instance.

Your CPU fan… you’re better off going with the stock cooler. Or this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 14, 2013 8:16:39 PM

tiny voices said:
Your build looks good. I would go for an i3 3220 instead of the 965BE.

Also get 1600mhz RAM instead of the 1333mhz you have listed.

I looked on future mark and the score difference between teh two cards is ony 10 (965BE: 4120, i3-3220:4130). this performance upgrade is really miniscule and the i3 is about 20USD more expensive. the 965BE also has 4 physical cores compared to 2 physical and 2 HT on the i3. the only sure benefit is the lower power consumption. if I'm getting an intel processor on this build i want to try to get at least an i5.
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January 14, 2013 8:23:07 PM

tiny voices said:
Your build looks good. I would go for an i3 3220 instead of the 965BE.

Also get 1600mhz RAM instead of the 1333mhz you have listed.

is there a huge diff between 1333mhz and 1600mhz? if i get 1600mhz i also have to get a different mobo since it doesnt support 1600mhz so i guess i could go to 1600mhz if you could recommend me a mother board that supports 1600mhz for around the same price as the one i have
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January 14, 2013 8:28:37 PM

groundrat said:
Yup system link is dead. But here is what I have from what I can see:

Most fans use a three pin connector. If you run out of motherboard slots you can hook them up to a molex to three pin adapter. (molex is the sheathed 4 pin that used to go on hard drives before SATA).

I’d stay away from Apevia, I have had bad luck with them.

NZXT makes some nice bridges that power four fans with one molex connector.

Beware that some case manufactures use a different standard for sizing their fans. NZXT cases will not properly mount coolermaster fans, for instance.

Your CPU fan… you’re better off going with the stock cooler. Or this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ok i fixed the link but if you still cant see it here it is: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xwmD

if you think apevia is bad, can you recommend me another fan model. im looking for 2 120mm fans preferably non led ones because i plan to put these on top of the case.

can you give me a link to a connector that links 4 fans?
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a c 147 ) Power supply
January 14, 2013 8:31:20 PM

Sarutobi0997 said:
I looked on future mark and the score difference between teh two cards is ony 10 (965BE: 4120, i3-3220:4130). this performance upgrade is really miniscule and the i3 is about 20USD more expensive. the 965BE also has 4 physical cores compared to 2 physical and 2 HT on the i3. the only sure benefit is the lower power consumption. if I'm getting an intel processor on this build i want to try to get at least an i5.


Most games use only one or two cores, rarely 3 or 4.
They depend more on faster cores, and intel will be 30% more effective on a clock for clock basis.
Synthetic tests using all threads are not as valid as real gaming benchmarks.
On tom's recent article, best gaming cpu's for the money, intel prevails at every price point.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

Here is an article on <$200 gaming cpu's.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

On your build, I think you can find a better cooling case for the same price, particularly if you include the cost of adding fans.

I think the cooler you picked would be no better than the stock cooler.
For $30, look at the cm hyper212.
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January 14, 2013 8:39:24 PM

tiny voices said:
I went from an overclocked 965Be to an i3 and noticed a bit of a difference. I also have a 7870 and one major thing I noticed was in skyrim it was much smoother. A 965BE is 3 years old and the i3 3220 is 8 months old. Plus, with an i3 you have a much better upgrade path for the future.

Get this RAM: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-996995

Get this Mobo: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-970de3u...

ok, with those parts the price goes a little bit over my price range but ""hopefully" the price will drop when i actually buy the parts (2nd-3rd quarter). if you rly think the i3-2330 is better than the 965BE can you recommend me a mobo that will fit the mobo without BIOS issues (ive seen mobo bios's that dont work well with 3rd gen intel processors) the absolute most im willing to spend is 780USD. also, what do you think of you 7870 or do you think im better off with an nvidia equivalent.
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a c 147 ) Power supply
January 14, 2013 8:46:04 PM

Sarutobi0997 said:
ok, with those parts the price goes a little bit over my price range but ""hopefully" the price will drop when i actually buy the parts (2nd-3rd quarter). if you rly think the i3-2330 is better than the 965BE can you recommend me a mobo that will fit the mobo without BIOS issues (ive seen mobo bios's that dont work well with 3rd gen intel processors) the absolute most im willing to spen is 780USD. also, what do you think of you 7870 or do you think im better off with an nvidia equivalent.


It is premature to be deciding on parts now when you will build in q2/q3.
By then haswell will launch with a 15% better price performance, and the nvidia GTX7xx and amd 8xxx cards will be out.

Spend some time researching cases, they do not change much. Also, do not exclude the smaller M-ATX form factor for motherboards and cases.
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January 14, 2013 9:12:02 PM

tiny voices said:
I like my 7870 its between the 660 and 660ti as far as performance is concerned.

This is a great MOBO for the i3: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b75m

do you think that i would be better off with an i5 or i3? im probably upload gameplay vids to youtube but im not gonna use like sony vegas pro or any "super" video editing software. im mainly going to game and work.
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a c 147 ) Power supply
January 14, 2013 9:17:57 PM

Sarutobi0997 said:
do you think that i would be better off with an i5 or i3? im probably upload gameplay vids to youtube but im not gonna use like sony vegas pro or any "super" video editing software. im mainly going to game and work.

Hard to say.
I think the i3 would be fine, buy why not use a Z77 based motherboard to start with?
Then, if you should ever want a quad, or an overclockable "K" you will be covered. The cost differential should not be great.
Here is one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 100 ) Power supply
January 14, 2013 10:13:23 PM

geofelt said:
Hard to say.
I think the i3 would be fine, buy why not use a Z77 based motherboard to start with?
Then, if you should ever want a quad, or an overclockable "K" you will be covered. The cost differential should not be great.
Here is one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


This is exactly what I did.
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January 14, 2013 10:27:29 PM

tiny voices said:
This is exactly what I did.

that is a bit much to spend on a mobo. i think the one you recommended me will be fine. but is still need 2 120mm fans to go in my case and an adapter if necessary for my PSU.
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a c 147 ) Power supply
January 14, 2013 10:42:51 PM

Sarutobi0997 said:
that is a bit much to spend on a mobo. i think the one you recommended me will be fine. but is still need 2 120mm fans to go in my case and an adapter if necessary for my PSU.


Fans will have either a 4 pin molex connector, and they have dual ends, like Cristmas lights so you can string several together on one psu power lead.
Or, they have 3 pin connectors that go to a motherboard header and can be motherboard controlled.

Regardless, Adding two $10 fans brings the cost of the case up to $60 plus shipping.
And, it does not look like it has good cooling capability anyway. 80mm fans are noisy and puny.
I might suggest the Antec 300 illusion model. It comes with extra fans for $65 with free shipping.
Some 1400 reviewers rate it highly.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This case constantly goes on sale, so keep an eye out for it.
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January 14, 2013 11:27:58 PM

geofelt said:
Fans will have either a 4 pin molex connector, and they have dual ends, like Cristmas lights so you can string several together on one psu power lead.
Or, they have 3 pin connectors that go to a motherboard header and can be motherboard controlled.

Regardless, Adding two $10 fans brings the cost of the case up to $60 plus shipping.
And, it does not look like it has good cooling capability anyway. 80mm fans are noisy and puny.
I might suggest the Antec 300 illusion model. It comes with extra fans for $65 with free shipping.
Some 1400 reviewers rate it highly.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This case constantly goes on sale, so keep an eye out for it.

that looks like a nice case but its too big (vertically). it also lacks usb 3 ports in front. if i get custom fans on the cougar solution it would cost less. my only problem is that i dont know if the cables work with the PSU's 4pin peripheral cords.
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January 15, 2013 1:37:28 AM

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