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January 14, 2013 7:45:07 PM

Hello I am new to computer building I have had some help learning a little bit with what parts I need an how to put it together which seems simple enough but with 760 dollars budget its kinda tricky for me being new an all...


Well since my friend dis not online today I can't ask him for help but this is what i have put together so far.

The type of PC I am trying to build is a DECENT Gaming pc for mainly some games like Amnesia the dark decent and the rest plain Emulation up to at least ps1/ps2.


1: The Case
A406-1094 ::NZXT M59-001BK M59 Gaming Mid Tower Case - ATX, mATX, Baby AT, Black(16.8 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...


2: The MotherBoard
M452-6113 ::MSI A75MA-G55 AMD A Series Motherboard - Micro ATX, Socket FM1, AMD A75 Chipset, 1866MHz DDR3 (O.C.), SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, SuperSpeed USB 3.0, AMD Dual Graphics Ready(2.45 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...


3: The Power Supply
ULT-LSP750 ::Ultra LSP750 750-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, SLI-Ready, 135mm Fan, Lifetime Warranty w/ Registration (5.05 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...


4: The Optical Drive
M452-5024 ::MSI DH-18D4P 18X DVDROM Drive - DVD-ROM 18X, CD-ROM 48X, IDE(1.85 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...


5: The Hard-drive
TSD-500AAKX ::WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB Desktop Hard Drive - 3.5", SATA, 7200RPM, 16MB Cache(1 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...


6: The Memory
C13-6165 ::Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 XMS 8GB DDR3 RAM - PC10666, 1333MHz, 2x 4GB(0.1 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...


7: The CPU
A79-1965 ::AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition AM3 CPU HDZ965FBGMBOX - 3.40GHz, Socket AM3, 6MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s) FSB, Retail, Processor with Fan(0.95 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...


8: The GPU
E145-9864 ::EVGA 01G-P3-N988-TR GeForce 9800 GT Video Card - 1024MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, DVI, HDMI, VGA(1.75 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

9: The OS Windows 7 Home Premium.
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...




This all comes to $647 at $770 with shipping and Tax
I just want your honest opinion did I screw up somewhere?

I am still a little confused in if these are all compatible with each other and so on.

Remember this IS my very first time so do be kind about it.


More about : build 760 budget

January 14, 2013 7:55:03 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.48 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.85 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($174.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($17.06 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($96.99 @ Computer Valley)
Total: $768.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 17:19 EST-0500)
January 14, 2013 8:06:10 PM

You need a AM3+ mobo for that cpu, the mobo you chose is from a different socket(FM1), for a different range of amd cpus (apus).

If you want an amd build, get a FX-6300 cpu and a proper mobo, also a better card, not a old generation card, some of the parts here have free shipping other don't, but i suspect it will cover those 700$.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: Biostar TA970XE ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($51.96 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($164.79 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($17.06 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($96.99 @ Computer Valley)
Total: $638.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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January 14, 2013 8:43:16 PM

djangoringo said:
You need a AM3+ mobo for that cpu, the mobo you chose is from a different socket(FM1), for a different range of amd cpus (apus).

If you want an amd build, get a FX-6300 cpu and a proper mobo, also a better card, not a old generation card, some of the parts here have free shipping other don't, but i suspect it will cover those 700$.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: Biostar TA970XE ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($51.96 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($164.79 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($17.06 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($96.99 @ Computer Valley)
Total: $638.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)






So if I upgrade to AM3+ all I would need to do is upgrade my Card an I would be fine?

January 14, 2013 8:55:01 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/xCpS
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/xCpS/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/xCpS/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($76.31 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($193.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($17.06 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $749.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 17:54 EST-0500)

both above suggestions are good, but this ones just as good and has 6cores :) 

January 14, 2013 8:56:25 PM

This is AM3+
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
It also has PCI 2.0

Same as the graphics card I had picked out.

I will eventually upgrade my build when money is not so low but for now is it okay for me to choose this type of gpu i have in my first post? It was once 330 dollars but is now only 54 or so.
January 14, 2013 8:58:05 PM

u dont like build i got u, u said 750$ right?

January 14, 2013 9:00:43 PM

iceclock said:
u dont like build i got u, u said 750$ right?


Oh no no, It's just I am trying to do my own build an would like some points in the right direction.

I was already told to get a AM3+ MoBo
to fit my current CPU I have

an also to get a newer GPU I plan to just get it all from TigerDirect.

If everything else is fine I just need help with my current GPU, should I keep it or get something better if i go any higher Ill run my budget.

January 14, 2013 9:10:34 PM

Pawchii said:
Oh no no, It's just I am trying to do my own build an would like some points in the right direction.

I was already told to get a AM3+ MoBo
to fit my current CPU I have

an also to get a newer GPU I plan to just get it all from TigerDirect.

If everything else is fine I just need help with my current GPU, should I keep it or get something better if i go any higher Ill run my budget.



What do you have already ?...

There's some AM3+ cheap mobos :

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

If you don't have yet the X4 965 BE get the FX-6300, it's much better : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
EdpNo=4904562&CatId=7339

For a card, get the 7850 1GB or if you can't pay the 7850, get the 650 gtx or 7770 from amd.
January 14, 2013 9:23:59 PM

djangoringo said:
What do you have already ?...

There's some AM3+ cheap mobos :

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

If you don't have yet the X4 965 BE get the FX-6300, it's much better : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
EdpNo=4904562&CatId=7339

For a card, get the 7850 1GB or if you can't pay the 7850, get the 650 gtx or 7770 from amd.


I posted links in previous posts.

AM3+ MoBo
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

An the CPU
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...


The other components are in my topic
January 14, 2013 9:31:39 PM

1. if you want to know if the processor you chose fits the motherboard for intel processors look for LGA 775/LGA 1155/LGA 2011 - (its in processor and motherboard descriptions) for AMD processors FM1/FM2/AM3/AM3+ (same in descriptions)

2. http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html anything past the 1000 G3D mark would be fine, moderate with price, check amazon reviews, all current motherboards support current releasing Graphics cards so don't worry.

3. you want to build DECENT gaming pc right, then save your money and buy a dual (or quad) core processor that has good reviews on amazon (the processor listed is fine, change mobo though) - good reference is looking at game requirements

4. POWER!!!!!!! - you don't need so much, get 450w-550w (with good reviews) i recommend corsairs 500w CX500 (no link :p )

5. and definitely DO NOT get windows 8.
January 14, 2013 9:38:39 PM

necrokamios said:
1. if you want to know if the processor you chose fits the motherboard for intel processors look for LGA 775/LGA 1155/LGA 2011 - (its in processor and motherboard descriptions) for AMD processors FM1/FM2/AM3/AM3+ (same in descriptions)

2. http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html anything past the 1000 G3D mark would be fine, moderate with price, check amazon reviews, all current motherboards support current releasing Graphics cards so don't worry.

3. you want to build DECENT gaming pc right, then save your money and buy a dual (or quad) core processor that has good reviews on amazon (the processor listed is fine, change mobo though) - good reference is looking at game requirements

4. POWER!!!!!!! - you don't need so much, get 450w-550w (with good reviews) i recommend corsairs 500w CX500 (no link :p )

5. and definitely DO NOT get windows 8.





Hahaha I definitely know better than to go with windows 8
I have chosen a AM3+ MoBo an maybe considering the

AMD 7770 GPU
along with the 550w power listed previously
I mean I'm not going to be hardcore massive FPS on video games I'm mainly going to be doing a ton of emulation which requires Pixel Shader 2 an above.

Ill stick with my other component listed above since they all seem to be okay.

I may break 800 dollar budget though due to the tax+shipping on tiger
January 14, 2013 9:59:43 PM

Does a MoBo HAVE to have the same PCI 1.0/2.0/3.0
As the GPU?

or can the MoBo have 3.0 an the GPU be 2.0 or lower?

This is confusing me as the GPU I'm looking at has PCI 3.0
Whilst my AM3+ MoBo has Pci 2.0
January 14, 2013 10:00:49 PM

No, your mobo that you chose supports any gfx card with pcie 3.0, pcie 3.0 is backwards compatible with 2.0/1.1, so the am3+ mobo with pcie 2.0 will be compatible with any pcie 3.0 card that you choose.

I recommend the xfx 550w, it's at the same price as the Corsair CX500, it's better :

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

You should consider the ocz cause it's modular, only a bit more : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Cheap cards like 650/ 7770/650ti(the order of better cards being 650ti>7770>650 gtx) :

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
January 14, 2013 10:02:44 PM

Pawchii said:
Hahaha I definitely know better than to go with windows 8
I have chosen a AM3+ MoBo an maybe considering the

AMD 7770 GPU
along with the 550w power listed previously
I mean I'm not going to be hardcore massive FPS on video games I'm mainly going to be doing a ton of emulation which requires Pixel Shader 2 an above.

Ill stick with my other component listed above since they all seem to be okay.

I may break 800 dollar budget though due to the tax+shipping on tiger




Pixel shader 2.0 is an incredibly old standard, if you want to save money the 7770 is not a way to go as it was released only just recently. my older GTX460 for example has pixel shader 5.0

if you can buy from somewhere other than tiger i'd recommend it as their website doesn't have many older cards (which are still very high performers) a possible cheap option for a GPU is the HD radeon 4870 or GTX 260, but again it's your money :p 
January 14, 2013 10:17:53 PM

USB 3.0 drive will work in USB 2.0 slot, same story with PCI

Fin.
January 14, 2013 10:19:34 PM

backwards compatibility, same as pci-e :) 

January 14, 2013 10:38:54 PM

I've reconfigured my build to everyone's comments...

I got a 550 power supply listed above (Comment)
GTX 650 Ti GPU listed above (Comment)
AMD CPu listed above (OP)
Hardrive listed above (OP)
OS Listed above (OP)
Tower listed above (OP)
Memory listed above (OP)

Now the final two things that is really killing me on price is...
Motherboard that can support the GPU.AM3+ and what ever else is needed

The optical drive (What type do I need I'm not going to be using it other than to install OS) is the one I have listed ok?

an finally the price is over 800 with tax
So I could use some help bring down the motherboard 136 dollars.
January 14, 2013 10:45:07 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/xCpS
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/xCpS/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/xCpS/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($76.31 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($193.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS72 DVD/CD Writer ($17.06 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $749.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 17:54 EST-0500)

both above suggestions are good, but this ones just as good and has 6cores


750$ with tax and shipping after coupons cant go wrong with that.



January 14, 2013 10:45:27 PM

Pawchii said:
I've reconfigured my build to everyone's comments...

I got a 550 power supply listed above (Comment)
GTX 650 Ti GPU listed above (Comment)
AMD CPu listed above (OP)
Hardrive listed above (OP)
OS Listed above (OP)
Tower listed above (OP)
Memory listed above (OP)

Now the final two things that is really killing me on price is...
Motherboard that can support the GPU.AM3+ and what ever else is needed

The optical drive (What type do I need I'm not going to be using it other than to install OS) is the one I have listed ok?

an finally the price is over 800 with tax
So I could use some help bring down the motherboard 136 dollars.




Yes, it's all good, like i said, get a cheaper mobo :

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

And ditch the dvd drive it's an IDE drive, get a dvd drive SATA one :

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
January 14, 2013 10:55:42 PM

Okay everything listed before is the same just one final question
Except the DVD and MoBo
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item... WILL support my GPU right?

USB 3 and PCI 3
Are they relatively the same an compatible with each other?
I was told of my GPU HAD PCI my MoBo would have to support it also so I was searching PCI under MoBo


January 14, 2013 10:57:06 PM

USB 3.0 is backwards compatible with USB 2.0
The same for PCIE 3.0, it's all compatible.
January 14, 2013 11:02:21 PM

Okay so my build is as decent as it will get being on this budget right?

I don't wanna make any mistakes before purchasing.


and as for my CPU does it come with term all paste or is that something I need to buy locally
January 14, 2013 11:03:39 PM

If you are gaming an i3 will outperform any FX chip.
January 14, 2013 11:09:50 PM

Pawchii said:
Okay so my build is as decent as it will get being on this budget right?

I don't wanna make any mistakes before purchasing.


and as for my CPU does it come with term all paste or is that something I need to buy locally


Yes, it has the stock cooler with thermal paste.
You could buy an aftermarket cooler if you have the extra for it, like this one : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Cheap and a good one.

or this one : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
January 14, 2013 11:10:28 PM

Not getting into hardcore gaming until later on when I decide to upgrade my pc in a year or 2.

For now it's basic emulation that even a store bought home pc can handle.
January 14, 2013 11:11:20 PM

So I am good to go on purchasing?

Best solution

January 14, 2013 11:12:30 PM
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January 14, 2013 11:15:09 PM

I appreciate your time.

Hopefully me being nervous about this is alright.

Time will tell.
January 14, 2013 11:38:29 PM

alright pawchii u can go with his build thats fine, but overall my build quality was just as good and within ur budget, goodluck sir :) 

January 14, 2013 11:52:52 PM

Thank you all for your great help I was just looking for tweaks of my build as I spent hours browsing an got 50% of everything I needed correct it all added up to 836 dollars cause of tax an shipping but that's fine.

It's not that I didn't want your builds its mainly I wanted to do it for myself an then use your responses to tweak it to make it all compatible an up to date

Hoping it all turns out well
Thanks again
January 14, 2013 11:53:35 PM

Best answer selected by Pawchii.
January 15, 2013 12:46:29 AM

well goodluck mate, if u need more assistance pm me paw.

January 15, 2013 2:04:57 AM

Ill keep that in mind
January 15, 2013 2:12:28 AM

coolio :) 
January 16, 2013 4:11:51 AM

djangoringo said:
What do you have already ?...

There's some AM3+ cheap mobos :

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

If you don't have yet the X4 965 BE get the FX-6300, it's much better : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
EdpNo=4904562&CatId=7339

For a card, get the 7850 1GB or if you can't pay the 7850, get the 650 gtx or 7770 from amd.





Just a quick after question...

While loading the new items into the cart I seemed to have chosen the very last link for the MoBo which worries me because even though you did link it was it the best one? The others had 86 ratings an everything the one I ordered didn't look to fancy or seem to have any reviews at all.

I'm just asking because I'm nervous that I maybe should have chosen the top link.

Will it affect anything?

Thank you again.
January 16, 2013 4:14:03 AM

The gigabyte one ?

It's the best one, it's fine.
January 16, 2013 7:49:01 AM

I got the MICRO atx one not the Gigabyte one.

I was pretty tired while ordering it

I am just worried that it won't fit / do a good performance as I hoped
January 16, 2013 2:14:06 PM

djangoringo said:
The gigabyte one ?

It's the best one, it's fine.


No, I ordered the LAST Link you posted which was the ASUS Micro ATX Mobo

The Micro ATX is basically the same in everyway as a standard ATX Mobo just 80% its size right?

Should I be this nervous? I have read up that a Micro ATX MoBo is basically the same but tends to become a lot hotter quicker.

and has less slots
January 16, 2013 2:30:53 PM

The asus is fine too, it's micro atx, but it won't overheat, it supports everything you got and also the FX line.
January 16, 2013 2:34:26 PM

djangoringo said:
The asus is fine too, it's micro atx, but it won't overheat, it supports everything you got and also the FX line.



Thank you, I am more calm now and relieved.

Though once I get more funds I should upgrade to a standard that supports more things right?
January 16, 2013 2:34:35 PM

+1 to dj recommandation good work there dj
!