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January 14, 2013 11:10:01 PM

This is my first ever gaming and video editing build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.99 @ Computer Valley)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($96.02 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($70.01 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.17 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($144.16 @ DirectCanada)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($66.70 @ DirectCanada)
Other: Logitech G500 Laser Gaming Mouse ($58.85)
Other: Rosewill RTK-002 Anti-Static Wrist Strap ($4.99)
Total: $1113.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 20:07 EST-0500)

Comes to about $1250, factoring in tax and shipping. If I purchase this within the next few days, I'll qualify for $45 mail-in rebates.

Any recommended tweaks before I commit? I mean, does it all look good? :p 
January 14, 2013 11:17:11 PM

for psu :
vx550 is not a good choice since it is not made by seasonic
VX-450 – Seasonic
VX-550 – Channel Well (CWT) (PSH platform)

go with xfx 550/650 as any xfx is manufactured by seasonic :) 
this is the complete list of seasonic PSU
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers
January 14, 2013 11:20:01 PM

Upgrade to a 7870 or a 7950 (GTX 660Ti and 670 on the Nvidia team) for gaming, with the next generation of GPU's coming out, the 7850 is going to be somewhat lacking performance wise.
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January 14, 2013 11:24:25 PM

I second the 7870. Since your buying a 1080p monitor it is safer to get a 7870; otherwise everything else looks great.

Since your not overclocking I think you can get by on a 500W PSU. I recommend getting 80 bronze. Buy Antec, Seasonic, or Corsair.

btw, you don't need a wrist wrap. Just make sure you touch the case periodically and don't build it on carpet.
January 14, 2013 11:32:45 PM

Thanks, guys. Swapping out the PSU and looking over 7870s again (considered one initially, heh).

On /r/BAPC, I was advised to avoid the 840 because it uses TLC instead of MLC. Should I swap out my SSD as well, then?
January 14, 2013 11:38:51 PM

intel 330/intel 520/samsung 830/vertex 4 are now the top choices

840 is so cheap because of a reason
January 14, 2013 11:59:37 PM

Done.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.99 @ Computer Valley)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 330 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($70.01 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.17 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($144.16 @ DirectCanada)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($66.70 @ DirectCanada)
Other: Logitech G500 Laser Gaming Mouse ($58.85)
Total: $1132.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 20:59 EST-0500)

Verdict? :) 
January 15, 2013 12:34:34 AM

perfect build :) 
January 15, 2013 12:42:56 AM

Thanks so much! Ordering in the morning.
January 15, 2013 12:59:39 AM

Also an FX8350 is also an option to save money and have a much better video editing build but loses a little bit of FPS on games.
January 15, 2013 1:09:36 AM

If wanting to stay intel i would just switch out some things
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.99 @ Computer Valley)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($60.00 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.00 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.17 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Acer P246HL Abd 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Memory Express)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($66.70 @ DirectCanada)
Other: Logitech G500 Laser Gaming Mouse ($58.85)
Total: $1110.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 22:09 EST-0500)

SSD- intel still uses sandforce, i much prefer Marvell which is faster(also cheaper if thinking in the way GB/dollar)

CPU - is cheaper with a bit lower performance that you will not even see

Monitor- This monitor comes Backlit which should give you better color, is 1" bigger, and cheaper

GPU- same brand, same price, different model. Comes with 2 fans for cooling
January 15, 2013 2:00:04 AM

Thank you for the suggestions!

I've never heard of Plextor before, but the reviews on the M5S seem solid! SSD swapped out. The 300R case seems sufficient for my needs and would likely save me about $23 (I think the CM case's special ended). Case swapped out, too. Unfortunately, the special on the 2-fan GPU ended, so I think I'll just go with the 1-fan model and save $25. I'm planning on starting with 2x4GB RAM and then upgrading to 4x4GB if and when needed. I'm gonna stick with the 3570, too. Although backlit, the P246HL monitor has a slower response time (5 ms vs. 2 ms) and has lower reviews. The VH236H is also more widely and better reviewed; a safer bet, I think.

Updated:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.99 @ Computer Valley)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.00 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.17 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($144.16 @ DirectCanada)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($66.70 @ DirectCanada)
Other: Logitech G500 Laser Gaming Mouse ($60.04)
Total: $1129.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-14 22:59 EST-0500)

Any objections? :D 
January 15, 2013 2:17:45 AM

Seriously, if you get the i5 3570, at least get the K version and get a 212 evo afterwards went you want to overclock.

There is literally no difference between i5 3470 and i5 3570 besides the pricing.

and for monitor
http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/asus-monitor-vs238hp
backlit version
January 15, 2013 3:11:25 AM

If I switched back to the 3570k (considered initially), I'd have to scale up a few other parts which would up costs to a level that's too far beyond my current budget to consider.

The question I have is whether 200MHz is worth $20 and whether downgrading to a 3470 will affect the performance of Sony Vegas and frame rates of modern games. If I really won't see a huge decrease in performance, I may very well consider going with the 3470.

Monitor swapped out. I was balancing the better reviews of the VH236H against the backlight of the VS238H-P and decided the backlight won.

Updated:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.99 @ Computer Valley)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.00 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.17 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($147.44 @ DirectCanada)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($66.70 @ DirectCanada)
Other: Logitech G500 Laser Gaming Mouse ($60.04)
Total: $1132.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-15 00:11 EST-0500)
January 15, 2013 3:21:38 AM

You will not notice that tiny 200MHz difference, they just make the i5 3570 just to wait and laugh at the person who actually spent that extra $20 for that 200MHz
January 15, 2013 3:23:49 AM

I agree, just get the i5-3470, boulbox is right, you probably could spend the extra $ in a better monitor like an ips from asus.
January 15, 2013 3:27:42 AM

Works for me. As long as it won't bottleneck the GPU, I'm pretty happy. I'll probably get a new, overclockable CPU for my next build, anyhow.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.99 @ Computer Valley)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($60.00 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.17 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($147.44 @ DirectCanada)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($66.70 @ DirectCanada)
Other: Logitech G500 Laser Gaming Mouse ($60.04)
Total: $1112.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-15 00:27 EST-0500)

Looking pretty good, I think.

January 15, 2013 3:38:19 AM

All current single GPUs will not bottle neck an i5. Maybe later on in 2 years when there is a 9xxx or 8xx series but not as of now. You will see bottleneck if you add a second GPU, but you do not have that luxury of that with your motherboard and PSU.
January 15, 2013 3:44:02 AM

boulbox said:
You will see bottleneck if you add a second GPU, but you do not have that luxury of that with your motherboard and PSU.

Nor could it possibly fit my budget! :p  Good thing I'm pretty sure I don't need/want a second GPU.

On another note, is it worth purchasing shipping insurance from online retailers? I'm currently thinking 'yes', as this is my first build and all. Will set me back the $20 I shaved off the CPU.
January 15, 2013 3:53:16 AM

No, most of the things you buy will have it's own warranty such as:
CPU
GPU
PSU
MoBo
Storage devices
and i believe monitor

Just save your boxes(really recommend saving Mobo items and i mean all items because if something fails most of the time it will be mobo because a failed bios update or something of that sort) and of course all of these items will already have a year or more warranty.
January 15, 2013 3:59:57 AM

Cool, that's what I was also thinking. Thanks for that.
January 15, 2013 4:17:33 AM

I've been wondering how long this build will satisfy for and which parts will be able to be reused in future builds. Since I'll likely OC my next build, recycling the CPU and MoBo is out of the question. Will I be able to reuse the PSU? If not, is it worth getting a, say, 650w PSU now that might be able to be used in a future OC build? Or is that too risky? Would it be safe to say that the GPU (which could be crossfired), storage (which could be added to), memory (which could be doubled) and peripherals will last me through another build at least?
January 15, 2013 6:00:18 AM

I know we kind of settled on a Seasonic PSU, but this Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 500W 80+ Bronze PSU is not only less expensive but also modular, which was recommended due to my case being "difficult to work with".

Would you guys recommend this PSU swap?
January 15, 2013 6:10:09 AM

^ personally, i wouldnt put my expensive stuffs into gambling with untrusted psu
there are many versions of seasonic and corsair that are modular too
January 15, 2013 6:29:22 AM

I wouldn't know, but do you know if this case might present cable management and air flow issues with non-modular PSUs? If so, would these issues merit spending an extra $30+ on a modular PSU?

I don't mind sticking with the XFX PSU as long as I know that it won't cause too many problems cable-wise.
January 15, 2013 3:18:05 PM

Eh, I'm just gonna stick with the XFX. Ordering now :) 
January 15, 2013 3:25:52 PM

AMD Radeon said:
for psu :
vx550 is not a good choice since it is not made by seasonic
VX-450 – Seasonic
VX-550 – Channel Well (CWT) (PSH platform)

go with xfx 550/650 as any xfx is manufactured by seasonic :) 
this is the complete list of seasonic PSU
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers



Seasonic isn't the only good psu manufacturer... -_-
January 15, 2013 4:02:42 PM

All done.
January 15, 2013 11:56:27 PM

AMD Radeon said:
^ personally, i wouldnt put my expensive stuffs into gambling with untrusted psu
there are many versions of seasonic and corsair that are modular too



Gambling untrusted PSU?

PC power & Cooler are one of the most trusted brands. They do not release a whole lot of new stuff anymore which is why they are not as well known anymore but their quality in PSU are just as good as Seasonics.

Also that they do not have a whole list of modular PSUs except for the low power ones which is pretty stupid because 500W PSUs don't even have a lot of cables and still wonder why people try to get them modular.
January 16, 2013 12:22:50 PM

The XFX 550W PSU was actually sold out, so I had to go with the 650W version for the same price. :p 

On the plus side, I'll be forced to learn cable management skills. :p 
!