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January 15, 2013 12:26:15 PM

Hi , I am currently deciding between buying a 360 or a gaming pc. Prices have skyrocketed in Argentina and my budget in USD is not that high anymore for a gaming rig.
Can I get a good enough pc for this sum? By good enough I mean:

1920 x 1080

Mid Settings (Assuming mid is considerably better than consoles)

a bit of AA

plan to play in a 22 in monitor , or a 32/42 HDTV

60 FPS (Being used to play on consoles I guess it would be a huge difference)

Is it possible?

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January 15, 2013 12:53:04 PM

This should be Good.

And your Xbox plays game at 1240x1024, which is pretty Low.
PC will Ram those settings

And with this Rig, you'll play at 1080p Ultra, Most games (Not in 60fps, But I would suggest you to play at High)
But still it will Look better than your Xbox.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($27.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US)
Total: $508.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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January 15, 2013 3:52:28 PM

I agree with sumukh. Also if you need to save even more then get a single stick o 4gb value ram.
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January 15, 2013 4:44:34 PM

+1 to sumuukh recommandation

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January 15, 2013 7:29:08 PM

The build Sumukh gave is a good one.. i just made a few changes and added an optical drive..

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xM4S
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xM4S/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xM4S/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($20.39 @ Amazon)
Total: $527.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-15 16:27 EST-0500)
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January 15, 2013 7:41:18 PM

did a few modifications, better motherboard, ram just as good and powersupply modular.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xMdU
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xMdU/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xMdU/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.26 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($20.39 @ Amazon)
Total: $528.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-15 16:40 EST-0500)

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January 15, 2013 10:13:20 PM

Thanks everyone!! I'm a newcomer to pc gaming so I do not have much of an idea.
Sometimes I get confused because some users in forums say configs like Phenom II 965 BE and Radeon 7770 w 8 gb ram will max most games at 1080p and run smooth
But others say that an I5 3570k and a 660ti is not enough to max all games , and that is kind of a letdown to me.

What about Skyrim performance with the specs you stated above? This is key because this game in consoles is terrible so I wanted to know what's enough to have a much better gaming experience that on consoles.

I had the chance to see a couple of PS3 games live and they look much better on HD videos posted on You Tube. Not "next gen" at all
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January 15, 2013 10:15:05 PM

well u got a limited budget and i gave u the best for ur dollar.

unless u can increase ur budget, thats the best u can get really for ur money.

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January 15, 2013 10:28:18 PM

A 7770 will not max out games at 1080.. its a mid-range gpu and will let you run games at low to med preset on most games.. a 7850 will give you decent fps on high preset on most recent games.. but yes there are more demanding games like far cry 3 which cannot be maxed out with a single gpu setup..here is a benchmark for far cry 3

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/far-cry-3-performan...

skyrim is a more cpu intensive game so its possible to run the game on the ultra preset with most high end gpus and a good cpu.. here is a benchmark of skyrim which includes the 7850

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-650-ti-...
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January 15, 2013 10:28:51 PM

Try this...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($106.97 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($20.39 @ Amazon)
Total: $498.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-15 19:22 EST-0500)

Here's a build closer to your budget. It won't max out every game out there, but you should be able to play at medium to high settings at comfortable frame rates. I also included a Z77 board for upgrade-ability. Once you acquire the cash, you can easily drop in an i5 3570k and a higher end GPU.

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January 15, 2013 10:32:22 PM

thats nice but for the extra 24$ the 7850 and parts i chose is def worth it tho.

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January 15, 2013 10:36:24 PM

iceclock said:
thats nice but for the extra 24$ the 7850 and parts i chose is def worth it tho.

Your build is also $80 over budget.

@OP Here's an AMD option...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($20.39 @ Amazon)
Total: $501.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-15 19:35 EST-0500)

This build includes the HD 6850. If you look at the Skyrim benchmarks above, you'll notice that the HD 6850 performs quite a bit better than the HD 7770.
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January 15, 2013 10:49:08 PM

its actually 30$ over budget. but lets see what the op says, somethimes a bit more is worth it,

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January 15, 2013 10:50:09 PM

DeusAres said:
Your build is also $80 over budget.

@OP Here's an AMD option...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($20.39 @ Amazon)
Total: $501.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-15 19:35 EST-0500)

This build includes the HD 6850. If you look at the Skyrim benchmarks above, you'll notice that the HD 6850 performs quite a bit better than the HD 7770.


^+1..the 6850 will be a better option for your budget.. phenom II 965 performs similar to the i3 3220 in most games and will do better in games that can utilize the quad core..but you'll be limited when it comes to upgrading the cpu..
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January 15, 2013 10:57:30 PM

iceclock said:
its actually 30$ over budget. but lets see what the op says, somethimes a bit more is worth it,

No, it's $80 over budget. The OP has to pay full price before he can send in the MIRs and get the money back. Here's a link to your build...

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xMdU

Look at the base total. This is what the OP will have to pay upfront.
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January 15, 2013 10:59:32 PM

iceclock said:
its actually 30$ over budget. but lets see what the op says, somethimes a bit more is worth it,


The op is from Argentina so the rebates won't matter.. so your build is like 80$ more.. but we can't be sure of that either.. depends on the prices form where he will purchase the parts..
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January 15, 2013 11:02:12 PM

nix327 said:
^+1..the 6850 will be a better option for your price.. phenom II 965 performs similar to the i3 3220 in most games and will do better in games that can utilize the quad core..but you'll be limited when it comes to upgrading the cpu..

Not really. The piledriver CPUs are solid CPUs. The FX 8350 actually competes with the i5 3570k. There's also a good chance that Steamroller will support Socket AM3+. They say it will be around a 15% boost in performance over piledriver. The OP will be fine with either build.
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January 15, 2013 11:04:35 PM

well i dunno, i did the best i could, and if the op provided an argentinian website would be alot more helpful, as we do not know the final price.

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January 16, 2013 12:20:42 AM

iceclock said:
well i dunno, i did the best i could, and if the op provided an argentinian website would be alot more helpful, as we do not know the final price.

It's all good. We did our best. We'll have to wait until the OP chimes back in and provides more info. :) 

Depending on Argentina's prices, my build may be over budget as well.
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January 16, 2013 12:51:58 AM

well ur build is prob cheaper i admit, but couldnt find a suitable site for argentina.

doh!

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January 16, 2013 1:23:01 AM

Thanks a lot!


Probably I should have stated before that the 500 bucks reference is taking into account US prices.Generally , prices in argentina are twice as much as in the US , so I know that I will have to pay around 1k USD for the rig. As an example , here you have a couple of rigs and their final price. Page is in Spanish of course , but you may be able to understand as well.

This is a basic gaming rig. It costs the incredible sum of 755 USD. It is said that it can run Minesweeper in ultra settings at 60fps

http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-446655534-pc-70...


A more advanced setting in another price point. I dont like the build.The processor is too much , I would get an I5 and a better GPU with the extra money. 1270 bucks worth

http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-446389982-7148-...

An extreme (by argentinean standards) setting. 2k USD and its yours.

http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-439353999-pc-in...


Also , to have as a reference , the Xbox 360 Skyrim and Forza bundle here costs 600 bucks.But I have my doubts about the performance of the consoles this gen. Graphics look good like 7 out of 10 but when you see them live , the games play like they were in slow motion. This did not happen the previous generations in my opinion. So its somewhat of a deal breaker on the console side.

I could spend some more money , heck if I am convinced and get good financing I could buy the kind of rig you get in the US for 1k USD. But since this will be my first proper experience with pc gaming , I wanted to spend the less ammount of money possible while having a good enough performance to see if I like it.
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January 16, 2013 1:39:23 AM

Is there any way you could purchase the parts and build it yourself? I think you would get a better deal this way. I don't like those builds you listed. The i7s are useless for gaming. And the HD 7750 is extremely weak. Lowest I would go as far as graphics is concerned is the HD 7770.
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January 16, 2013 1:44:27 AM

Prebuilts are usually overpriced like DuesAres said.. if you can build it yourself you can choose quality components unlike the no name PSU and mobo that come with prebuilts.. they also limit your upgrade path.. so building it yourself will give more value for your money..
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January 16, 2013 2:23:27 AM

im confused with the currency on that site. its argentenian but high price.

i dont know do any of u guys get the price difference from us to argentenian, im confused -_-
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January 16, 2013 2:39:20 AM

I'm from India and the prices here are generally like about 1.3- 1.5 times the price in US.. so a 1000$ build would cost about 1300- 1500 $ here.
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January 16, 2013 7:34:54 AM

nix327 said:
I'm from India and the prices here are generally like about 1.3- 1.5 times the price in US.. so a 1000$ build would cost about 1300- 1500 $ here.


+1
Thats right.
But nothing can be done. We still have to pay more :lol: 
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January 16, 2013 9:51:08 AM

Just in case , as of today 1 USD= 5 ARS is the official exchange rate. However , in our beloved country the Argentinean Central Bank has forbidden the trade of foreign currencies. What's the result? In the black market 1 USD = 7.5 ARS.

Only Venezuela has higher prices in technology than us at the South American level. The technological gap among us and regular countries is getting wider and wider. It sucks to be tech savy over here.

BTW , out of curiosity. For the guys in India: Whats the average annual salary over there? I would like to compare the purchasing power between both countries.

Guess I settle with my PSX...
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