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Gigabyte 7870 oc 2gb vs giga byte gtx660 v gigabyte gtx 660ti

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December 2, 2012 8:20:45 AM

I want to buy a gpu for my IVY BRIDGE RIG. :hello: 

Now the options that i have are,

1: Gigabyte 7870 oc 2gb
2: Gigabyte gtx660 oc
3: Gigabyte gtx660tioc
4: club3d Radeon HD 7870 jokerCard XT(7890)

I will game on 1080p resolution and will also do some video editing

http://club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product...


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

waiting for suggestions
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 2, 2012 8:39:35 AM

What kind of games do you play? That will kind of help dictate things a little. But typically speaking you get a better value out of the 7870 then you would out of the Ti version of the 660. However if you are looking in the 660Ti range you could also look at the 7950 as well.
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December 2, 2012 4:13:17 PM

All the new games titles like asassin creed 3,BF3, far cry3 and NFS
secondly the 7000 series has GCN architecture will it help in video editing and gpu compute compared to nvidia's cuda?
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 2, 2012 7:53:56 PM

I'm not sure I've seen people suggest the 670 for a mix of gaming and CUDA. So I would think the gpu computing power would be stronger on the nvidia side of things. Honestly though 660Ti is a good gpu just poorly priced, the 7870 is good as well, and if you were to spend the money on a 660ti or 7950 you would be fine either way on games I know for certain in CAD processing I would have no idea other then what I've heard about CUDA processing.
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December 3, 2012 12:35:06 AM

well i have heard the new cuda architecture for nvidia 600 series is not optimised well for computing as per google
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 3:03:09 AM

Maybe not as optimized as the 500 series but still decent. Typically though for a workstation scenario you would get a Quadro anyway.

Only reason I stick with nvidia is because they are more of the full feature cards where you don't really get that much from AMD. But if you are after straight horsepower at the moment the 7000 series will win on the high end.
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December 3, 2012 12:55:42 PM

prices up here are on the higher side

1: Gigabyte 7870 oc 2gb 360$ 1year warranty)
2: Gigabyte gtx660 oc 300$ 1year warranty)
3: Gigabyte gtx660tioc 390$ 1year warranty)
4: club3d Radeon HD 7870 jokerCard XT(7890) (i have deal on it for 310$) 2 year warranty)

I dont wanna spend more than 350$ on gpu

the 7950 will cost a whooping 420$
havnt used AMD bfr been a nvidia fanboy but heard a lots of good things abt AMD 7000 series the only thing z i do some video editing too and image editing will this GCN compute of AMD be as helpfull as CUDA CORES of nvidia?

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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 5:29:58 PM

I'm unsure where you are getting your pricing. Do you like in the states or canada? I've been told that nvidia does a better job when it comes to direct computing. It looks like nvidia wins in editing.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/349953-33-nvidia-grap...

this 7870 is $240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this gtx 660 is $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this gtx 660ti is $300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this 7950 is $300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 3, 2012 6:24:58 PM

bro i live in Pakistan up over here the prices of computer stuff are quite high the rates i stated bfr are the miimum ones at which i can get these gpus
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 6:50:36 PM

I wasn't aware that you were in a different country so that would make more sense for things to be a bit more expensive over there. That being said you have where you buy it 300 versus 390 and I'm unsure you really gain a bunch with that 90 dollars. I think for you the question is between the 7870 and the regular 660 if the extra frames warrant the 60 dollar cost. Because unless you are doing editing or rendering spending the 30 dollars above the 7870 sounds like a waste.

Its not that the 660Ti isn't bad its just at a bad price point given the value. The 7950 is in the same price range. And considering as well that the 660 is fairly close to the 660Ti as a cheaper price point.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/645?vs=647

660 versus ti: notice how in many tests its pretty much neck and neck.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/660?vs=647
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December 3, 2012 7:01:05 PM

192 bit thingy vs 256bit ????????
thats the only issue left then
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 7:11:51 PM

well that is the major difference between the 660Ti and the 670. It's around the same upgrade length from the 660ti to the 670 as it is the. 660/7870. The 7870 is superior however it comes down to if you can warrant the cost if you can then the 7870 is better. When it came between the memory bit lane for me when I was purchasing a card I went for the 670 felt I was getting more from my card versus the lower option and couldn't have been happier. The choice is yours and man may I say cards over there are mighty pricey.
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December 3, 2012 7:14:02 PM

and what abt the new 7890 (7870 xt with 1536 shader units at 6000mhz) vs 660ti
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 7:33:22 PM

I don't know much about the 7890 other than its supposed to be 15% faster then the gtx 660 and a little faster then the 7870. It's not meant to compete with the 660Ti as far as I know.
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a b U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 7:36:17 PM

Well i missed a part of your info.

You DO video editing.

Than 7870 no more questions.

Nvidia lower compute power in 6xx series so we could buy card made for that job.

5xx are way better than 6xx and 7xxx are very good comparing to 6xx.

So 7870 is good in gaming and compute so get it !

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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 8:03:13 PM

With what evidence do you have that the 7xxx series is anywhere decent with editing programs, adobe, maya, C++, CAD.
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 8:30:54 PM

The top graph doesn't show any 600 series cards. The 2nd one is a synthetic benchmark which isn't a application benchmark i.e, after effects, maya, photoshop. To my knowledge with adobe programs as well they only have plugins through nvidia. So with the most common software choices dreamweaver, after effects, photoshop you end up in a situation where you will get more from nvidia. And from numerous places I've seen plugins only supported with CUDA.
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a b U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 8:47:43 PM

adobe is going with opencl for CS6 and any midrange AMD card will outperform the 680 in openCL

And google sir. Gtx 6xx are crap in compute apps. Nvidia inserted that power in card for that job not gaming and compute together !
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 9:44:20 PM

While they may be enabling opencl with cs6 you can use cuda in cs6 as well.
I dug this up for CS6
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4639411

But getting back to this guy's dilemma is he lives in a country where hardware is expensive quite expensive and finding him the best deal for the money.

What applications do you use game wise and computing wise?
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December 4, 2012 10:58:01 AM

well guys first i gtto thnx all u guys for these good suggestions :) 
now coming to the editing well i use cs5 mostly but also cs6 aome times and i also want video editing for conversion of video songs to my i phone format.
here z a link that i saw last nyt
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photosh...
strange thing z a 7870 beats a 7970 n cs6
nvidia shows its cuda computing capabilities
1 more query how z club3d brand wise?
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 11:45:00 AM

Not exactly sure its not a very common brand here in the states. I mean its around its just not nearly as common. They are one of the few manufactures that make the 7990.

Funny you respond to this thread after a starcraft 2 game I just got out of. Was talking to this guy since everyone was tossing out there computer specs because someone in the game was lagging. And he had mentioned that he does work in adobe and has a amd firegl card. And he was saying that there are video rendering things that he can't tap into because he doesn't have cuda and he recently purchased a quadro card nvidia's workstation series cards and is excited for it. So was just interesting to find a professional in the field that thought nvidia gave him an advantage in the field.
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a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 1:05:00 PM

Well you can ask everyone (or just google ) that Nvidia lowered compute power in 6xx series.

So as you are going to do compute apps and gaming i would suggest 5xx series or 78/9xx series.

The 7970 Ghz proved to be really good in that.

Also i stated that CS is going with CL .

But as you want CUDA i would 580 maybe over 6xx.
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a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 2:23:12 PM

Well NVIDIA made that . Its not me. They lowered compute power in 6xx. Thats a fact not my story.

They wanted to sell new Chips and didnt want to include gaming and compute app in 1 card.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/A/W/342536/original/musema...

This is with OpenCL and posted by Tom's.

Look the difference.

As i said many times before. CS6 is going with OpenCL

http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photoshop-cs6-gpu-f...

And AMD GPU smokes the 6xx. So no need to add more.

If you have CS6 get 7xxx. If not get 580!

Good Luck !
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a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 4:06:20 PM

Well it dsnt compare it to AMD (i went thorugh that site yesterday)

Read my last post. I cant add smth more to convince you.

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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 5:36:15 PM

The gentlemen that I spoke to who does cs6 work said he loved the amd option but that cuda provided a different type of processing to make things easier for him. Now amd may in the end may be faster on the 600 series I just suggested the nvidia option because it seemed that opencl wasn't nearly as good for a professional dealing with workstation products. and you are dead on nvidia probably just decided that they didnt want people buying there 500 series to do cuda processing so they scaled it more towards gaming. You aren't going to get amazing workstation preformance on either platform I just as I said mentioned CUDA from nvidia because its a feature that makes things easier "night and day performance doing things in real time" as i was told. I don't really care to argue I see to much fan boyism all the time people think that numbers tell the entire story all the time.
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a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 5:42:37 PM

Well i have 560 Ti if you can see.

SO IM NOWHERE NEAR TO BE CALLED FANBOY.

I just gave reviews stating AMD way better than nvidia in openCL. Double perf
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 6:45:39 PM

Well that's because Nvidia doesn't use Opencl they use CUDA. And I think that's the man separation in opinion. I think the way something is accomplished is not always about raw computing power its something about the method now CUDA is something you can use in CS6 now with Opencl being a larger factor in CS6 maybe that would persuade someone either way. However, if you were more serious about raw computing power from a video card you would either go with a amd fire card or nvidia quadro card. As far as those cards go this card seems to be leading the pack on benchmarks the k5000 this is the one the guy I talked to purchased over his firepro.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The way I see it is this is that either brand you won't get an amazing computing experience you will get a level of it but if you are serious about it you won't be using a standard video card to accomplish your need. For people doing simple things like photoshop and light after effects for example I can't imagine either solution being awful.

And I didn't see you had a nvidia gtx 560 it doesn't show in a signature so I wouldn't think to go to a profile to check out your configuration. It's just tiresome honestly to go on the forums and the instant someone asks for a recommendation its a small post that say something like "7970" no thought no reasoning behind it just its what everyone saying so I'm going to post it same thing with the Cooler Master EVO. Because I see less NVIDIA fanboyism It seems to me that AMD tends to get more of that end of the stick for me.
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a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 7:11:20 PM

Well i dont do that -.-'
And about the EVO.I personally use it and took my temp from 40 Idle to 25C And load never touched 40C.

I have enabled siganture so idk whats wrong. But your tireness made you say something not true and missleading the OP.

Still he dont want a card for lets say 1 year and than Upgr to AMD (Cuz of OpenCl being used on CS6).
If i were in his position i would get the 7970 (If i had the cash to :p ) over 6xx (keeping in mind that i will do video/photo editing).

So if OP wants to UPGR anytime soon let him get 6xx.

And i didnt say that 6xx would be a failure BUT comparing to that 7970 they are far behind.

I do CS to and i use this 560 Ti. I didnt use CS when i had AMD card so i cant help you in pers exp. So im comparing it to benches.

And as Nvidia stated that 6xx is way less powerfull that what it was meant to be im choosing the 7xxx over 6xx.

Maybe OP can end it here.

He just need to write here the answer to this thread after reading my last sentence.

Q: At what level you do Video/Photo editing ?
If high get 7970 with OpenCL support (By CS too)
If basic (randomly not everyday) get 6xx.

And you will choose that 6xx by comparing it to games (dont keep in mind compute power when choosing it)

Also when coming to gaming i would get 670 and above for some future proofing.

Good Luck sir !
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 7:51:48 PM

Your signature doesn't show up there is a check box now for which says apply signature in your settings you can edit your post and it will show up once you do that :) 
Oh and new nvidia drivers today woot! Hope my performance jumps a little with my 670!
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December 4, 2012 8:46:54 PM

bro as i said before the prices of gpus up here are sky high
his 7970 costs 560$
gigabyte 7970oc costs 490$
evga 670 2gb z 500$
gigabyte 670 oc 2gb z 490$
Gigabyte 7870 oc 2gb 360$
Gigabyte gtx660 oc 298$
Gigabyte gtx660tioc 372$
club3d Radeon HD 7870 jokerCard XT(7890) 300$

well i will use cs5 and cs6, do some video editing a few tyms a week.but will wanna play all the latest games title at 1080p ultra and my budget z around 350$.
the prices obove are as i have heard gonna drop "a little" except the evga one in next wk

so spending obove 400$ is gonna be hard on my pocket so 7970 z out of my budget
1 more thing i wanna use the gpu for atleast 2 yrs
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a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 8:47:40 PM

Well that box is enabled :) 

And im with the new drivers too :)  Hope we see something :D 

Edit :

Well for that budget the best pick is 660 Ti.

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/...


As you do light edit (i mean light ,not everyday and hardcore) that 660 Ti will suffice. I dont think that 10-30 sec more would hurt you.But as i see prices get a 660 TI . The one from gigabyte is really good.

Review's show temps really good (even better than asus) But slighlty increased noise level (1-4 DBA,IMO i dont think it will hurt you as soon as the temps are good)

that club3d hmmm i never liked that brand(in the shop i work we never got that brand)

We built a rig with 6850 Gigabyte and it was a champ.

And about the price drop. If u can get 670(is the FTW ? ) for lower go for it (i see 7970 its to high).
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 10:43:26 PM

I agree at that price range the 660Ti is the best option in your country. It's worth the extra 12 dollars over the 7870.

And yes your signature is coming in clear and awesome now :)  Yea can't wait to try out the drivers when I get the chance. BF3 Aftermath came out today so well see!
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a b U Graphics card
December 5, 2012 4:12:26 PM

by Ryan Smith on 8/16/2012 9:00:00 AM said:
by Ryan Smith on 8/16/2012 9:00:00 AM
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December 7, 2012 6:07:50 PM

its on deal for 310$ now
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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 7, 2012 6:52:52 PM

Its a bit lower then the 660Ti's price tag may be worth it its up to you
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December 7, 2012 8:10:07 PM

according to the tech powerup review its a little slower than 7950
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a b U Graphics card
December 7, 2012 8:18:49 PM

Well prince. Give me your budget and i will tell you the one to pick !
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a b U Graphics card
December 7, 2012 8:33:35 PM

Well 660 Ti its good. Check even for Msi / Asus (maybe they are cheaper).

You should reallly strech to it.

If not i would get that joker card. Seems great while reading the review. If i had the max 300 i would get it.
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