Gigabyte 7870 oc 2gb vs giga byte gtx660 v gigabyte gtx 660ti

[fakeprince24]

I want to buy a gpu for my IVY BRIDGE RIG.

Now the options that i have are,

1: Gigabyte 7870 oc 2gb
2: Gigabyte gtx660 oc
3: Gigabyte gtx660tioc
4: club3d Radeon HD 7870 jokerCard XT(7890)

I will game on 1080p resolution and will also do some video editing

http://club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/radeon-hd-7870-jokercard.1398.html


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125443


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125440

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125441

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125418

waiting for suggestions
regards

 

[bigshootr8]

What kind of games do you play? That will kind of help dictate things a little. But typically speaking you get a better value out of the 7870 then you would out of the Ti version of the 660. However if you are looking in the 660Ti range you could also look at the 7950 as well.

 

[fakeprince24]

All the new games titles like asassin creed 3,BF3, far cry3 and NFS
secondly the 7000 series has GCN architecture will it help in video editing and gpu compute compared to nvidia's cuda?

 

[bigshootr8]

I'm not sure I've seen people suggest the 670 for a mix of gaming and CUDA. So I would think the gpu computing power would be stronger on the nvidia side of things. Honestly though 660Ti is a good gpu just poorly priced, the 7870 is good as well, and if you were to spend the money on a 660ti or 7950 you would be fine either way on games I know for certain in CAD processing I would have no idea other then what I've heard about CUDA processing.

 

[fakeprince24]

well i have heard the new cuda architecture for nvidia 600 series is not optimised well for computing as per google

 

[bigshootr8]

Maybe not as optimized as the 500 series but still decent. Typically though for a workstation scenario you would get a Quadro anyway.

Only reason I stick with nvidia is because they are more of the full feature cards where you don't really get that much from AMD. But if you are after straight horsepower at the moment the 7000 series will win on the high end.

 

[fakeprince24]

prices up here are on the higher side

1: Gigabyte 7870 oc 2gb 360$ 1year warranty)
2: Gigabyte gtx660 oc 300$ 1year warranty)
3: Gigabyte gtx660tioc 390$ 1year warranty)
4: club3d Radeon HD 7870 jokerCard XT(7890) (i have deal on it for 310$) 2 year warranty)

I dont wanna spend more than 350$ on gpu

the 7950 will cost a whooping 420$
havnt used AMD bfr been a nvidia fanboy but heard a lots of good things abt AMD 7000 series the only thing z i do some video editing too and image editing will this GCN compute of AMD be as helpfull as CUDA CORES of nvidia?

 

[bigshootr8]

I'm unsure where you are getting your pricing. Do you like in the states or canada? I've been told that nvidia does a better job when it comes to direct computing. It looks like nvidia wins in editing.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/349953-33-nvidia-graphics-editing-video-editing

this 7870 is $240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202010

this gtx 660 is $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130826

this gtx 660ti is $300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121653

this 7950 is $300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006

 

[fakeprince24]

bro i live in Pakistan up over here the prices of computer stuff are quite high the rates i stated bfr are the miimum ones at which i can get these gpus

 

[prototype18]

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page4.html

Well this is a new review and showing 660 Ti above 7870.

Even other reviews (new) show the same so GET 660 TI

 

[bigshootr8]

I wasn't aware that you were in a different country so that would make more sense for things to be a bit more expensive over there. That being said you have where you buy it 300 versus 390 and I'm unsure you really gain a bunch with that 90 dollars. I think for you the question is between the 7870 and the regular 660 if the extra frames warrant the 60 dollar cost. Because unless you are doing editing or rendering spending the 30 dollars above the 7870 sounds like a waste.

Its not that the 660Ti isn't bad its just at a bad price point given the value. The 7950 is in the same price range. And considering as well that the 660 is fairly close to the 660Ti as a cheaper price point.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/645?vs=647

660 versus ti: notice how in many tests its pretty much neck and neck.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/660?vs=647

 

[fakeprince24]

192 bit thingy vs 256bit ????????
thats the only issue left then

 

[bigshootr8]

well that is the major difference between the 660Ti and the 670. It's around the same upgrade length from the 660ti to the 670 as it is the. 660/7870. The 7870 is superior however it comes down to if you can warrant the cost if you can then the 7870 is better. When it came between the memory bit lane for me when I was purchasing a card I went for the 670 felt I was getting more from my card versus the lower option and couldn't have been happier. The choice is yours and man may I say cards over there are mighty pricey.

 

[fakeprince24]

and what abt the new 7890 (7870 xt with 1536 shader units at 6000mhz) vs 660ti

 

[bigshootr8]

I don't know much about the 7890 other than its supposed to be 15% faster then the gtx 660 and a little faster then the 7870. It's not meant to compete with the 660Ti as far as I know.

 

[prototype18]

Well i missed a part of your info.

You DO video editing.

Than 7870 no more questions.

Nvidia lower compute power in 6xx series so we could buy card made for that job.

5xx are way better than 6xx and 7xxx are very good comparing to 6xx.

So 7870 is good in gaming and compute so get it !

 

[bigshootr8]

With what evidence do you have that the 7xxx series is anywhere decent with editing programs, adobe, maya, C++, CAD.

 

[prototype18]

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5767/45667.png

http://xtremehardware-joomla.xtremehardware.netdna-cdn.com/images/stories/Msi/R7870_HAWK/Grafici/computemark.png

http://media.bestofmicro.com/A/Q/342530/original/luxmark.png

http://media.bestofmicro.com/A/W/342536/original/musemage.png

and infinte bench

 

[bigshootr8]

The top graph doesn't show any 600 series cards. The 2nd one is a synthetic benchmark which isn't a application benchmark i.e, after effects, maya, photoshop. To my knowledge with adobe programs as well they only have plugins through nvidia. So with the most common software choices dreamweaver, after effects, photoshop you end up in a situation where you will get more from nvidia. And from numerous places I've seen plugins only supported with CUDA.

 

[prototype18]

adobe is going with opencl for CS6 and any midrange AMD card will outperform the 680 in openCL

And google sir. Gtx 6xx are crap in compute apps. Nvidia inserted that power in card for that job not gaming and compute together !

 

[bigshootr8]

While they may be enabling opencl with cs6 you can use cuda in cs6 as well.
I dug this up for CS6
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4639411

But getting back to this guy's dilemma is he lives in a country where hardware is expensive quite expensive and finding him the best deal for the money.

What applications do you use game wise and computing wise?

 

[fakeprince24]

well guys first i gtto thnx all u guys for these good suggestions
now coming to the editing well i use cs5 mostly but also cs6 aome times and i also want video editing for conversion of video songs to my i phone format.
here z a link that i saw last nyt
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CS6-GPU-Acceleration-161
strange thing z a 7870 beats a 7970 n cs6
nvidia shows its cuda computing capabilities
1 more query how z club3d brand wise?

 

[bigshootr8]

Not exactly sure its not a very common brand here in the states. I mean its around its just not nearly as common. They are one of the few manufactures that make the 7990.

Funny you respond to this thread after a starcraft 2 game I just got out of. Was talking to this guy since everyone was tossing out there computer specs because someone in the game was lagging. And he had mentioned that he does work in adobe and has a amd firegl card. And he was saying that there are video rendering things that he can't tap into because he doesn't have cuda and he recently purchased a quadro card nvidia's workstation series cards and is excited for it. So was just interesting to find a professional in the field that thought nvidia gave him an advantage in the field.

 

[prototype18]

Well you can ask everyone (or just google ) that Nvidia lowered compute power in 6xx series.

So as you are going to do compute apps and gaming i would suggest 5xx series or 78/9xx series.

The 7970 Ghz proved to be really good in that.

Also i stated that CS is going with CL .

But as you want CUDA i would 580 maybe over 6xx.

 

[fakeprince24]

PROTOTYPE18 bro chk this link
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CS6-GPU-Acceleration-161