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January 17, 2013 12:49:02 AM

going to build me a new comp, heres whats gonna be in it...
OS Windows 7 home
mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram - (x4) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cpu heatsink - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case fans -(x2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(x1) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

already have a galaxy GTX 550 ti and a 600w psu (cant remeber details) in my current comp from a few mnoths ago when i upgraded just those 2 parts.
this rig is being built for gaming, im only running at 1080p so no sli or overclocking at all, would be wasted when i can run every game i own maxed on my current rig with 35+ fps at full load

any thoughts or suggestions are welcomed, and with the suggestions the current cost is right at $1250 and not wanting to go much higher.

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January 17, 2013 12:58:34 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/y0e8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/y0e8/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/y0e8/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($79.33 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($11.39 @ Amazon)
Total: $990.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-16 21:58 EST-0500)

would be more than enought and better build, with better parts and a better gpu :) 



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January 17, 2013 2:05:17 AM

ok first off anything with amd products cant be called "better parts and gpu" and im not doing a budget build, tired of buying *** thats already outdated, LGA 1155 is *** in the way of future upgrades (doubt ill get another cpu without a new mobo but still) and you added *** i dont need and removed *** i do, 7200rpm hd is a joke, i do like the ssd but 1 large 10000rpm fits wat im doing better. you cut a lot of cost by halving my ram (might do idk tho) and skimping on the mobo, im simply not doing that again (my current rig is like that and i hate it) also the os is included in my pricing, dont have win 7 yet so have to buy it.
i want thoughts and suggestions on wat i put together, not a new budget build, i do not use any amd or radeon products. if i put anything together stupidly (and its not just an opinion you accually have some facts), or have any suggestions or ideas then i would love to hear them.
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January 17, 2013 2:10:31 AM

im done here, find someone else to help u.

be more polite next time.

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January 17, 2013 3:46:56 AM

you gave me a downgraded build with parts i already have, didnt mean to be a complete as s but you missed the whole point
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January 17, 2013 3:56:28 AM

demonwithin said:
going to build me a new comp, heres whats gonna be in it...
OS Windows 7 home
mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram - (x4) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cpu heatsink - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case fans -(x2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(x1) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

already have a galaxy GTX 550 ti and a 600w psu (cant remeber details) in my current comp from a few mnoths ago when i upgraded just those 2 parts.
this rig is being built for gaming, im only running at 1080p so no sli or overclocking at all, would be wasted when i can run every game i own maxed on my current rig with 35+ fps at full load

any thoughts or suggestions are welcomed, and with the suggestions the current cost is right at $1250 and not wanting to go much higher.


Hi,

I don't really like the motherboard...it has a 64gb memory capacity that I guarantee you won't go past 16. You also have 1 stick of RAM on a motherboard that accepts quad channel RAM. Additionally, I would get at least a 750W PSU. You don't want a 600W PSU that has to work over 70% of the time to provide power. You could get a cheaper board and use that for a better PSU. Hope this helps.
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January 17, 2013 3:58:59 AM

Agreed, you could have been nicer.
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January 17, 2013 3:59:10 AM

i dint give u a downgrade build, the 3770k is just as good as the 3820, unless u actually plan on getting a 6core no point in getting an expensive socket 2011 cpu and board.

second of all amd cards are still decent and for the money the 7950 can be overclocked to 7970 levels and surpass a gtx 680 at times.

so ur opinion on amd is flawed, as they have alright cpus but there gpus are quite fine.

a 10k rpm disk wont really access information that much faster than a 7200rpm disk, its also the size of the platters on the disk and the cache that helps,

if anything a 15k rpm disk would be a minimum to consider for a storage disk, except they cost more than ssds for large formats and thus arent worth investing in.

the motherboard i chose is quite fine, asrock is one of the leaders in motherboards today actually, and gigabyte isnt any better, the only difference is ur board is socket 2011 and thats why it cost more.


also i assumed u had windows 7, but seems u need it also. that graphic card is junk, if u want to play modern games on smooth framerates ur gonna have to change it,

also u might wanna specify what ur doing mostly with the pc as ur pretty vague and left out information.

32 gb is useless unless ur running big server apps and even than 16 gigs is more than enought even for professionals doing 3d work and autocad and large photo manipulation,

also gaming only really requires at most 6-8gigs of ram.



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January 17, 2013 11:53:54 PM

thank you khubani for the input, will highly consider that, 260 for a mobo was gonna hurt (mobos not my best subject, and i was putting 4 sticks of ram in the mobo not just 1 but im starting to agree 32 is a waste for me). Also thanks iceclock for finally explaining why you posted the build, im an intel guy through and through so im not swapping to a radeon card, but i will take everything else you said and probably revise my build later tonight and repost. thanks again for the thoughts.
fyi i currently play "modern games" with my gtx 550 with a smooth framerate, low due to bottlenecking by the rest of the pos comp i have but still fairly smooth, after i revise the build if a new gtx 690 wont bump me too far over wat i am now ill throw one in as well.
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January 18, 2013 1:18:33 AM

im just saying depends on what games u play, if u try to play guildwars on max, diablo3 on max, farcry3 on max, crysis2 on max, any really gpu intensive game, ur gpus gonna get pillaged.

that was my point but if u like playing on low or med and dont mind low fps than go ahead.

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January 19, 2013 10:45:43 PM

lol point taken, thought about it and i do wanna keep the mobo (hurts like hell but...) for the reason that i like having a pretty damn good mobo that i can throw a 6 core in if i wanna upgrade in future without getting a new mobo. am going to cut the ram in half to 16gigs, and seriously considering getting a small ssd to run os and a few games i play a lot and get a smaller 10k rpm (not much better than 7200 but i really want to upgrade everything even its not a whole lot better) for the rest (use a 1.5 tb external for movies and such, going to add a new graphics card and psu to the mix as well, thinking of a gtx 660 or higher(havent looked at prices of those yet, looked at the 690s and it was 999.99 so thats out the basket lol)
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January 19, 2013 11:20:48 PM

so whats ur new budget, and what plateform u want. am3 u keep and gonna get a 6core?

so total budget for cpu+stuff?

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January 20, 2013 3:52:00 AM

revised build-
hds - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
psu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
graphics card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
also dropped ram down to 2 sticks, might get 4 4gb sticks but either way just 16gbs, other than that im keep build the same, sticking with the 4 core cpu for the time being, ill keeping the option open to get a 6 core later on, the mobo should last me a while. total price is $1741 without shipping, would lvoe to cut down on that but dont wanna loss any parts, mgiht use that pricechecker and shop around and see wat it comes out to and go from there. do have 2 7200 250gb hard drives i could salvage off my current comp and get the 10000 i listed later on, just a thought.
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January 20, 2013 3:55:38 AM

reason i dont wanna get another mobo, because when this comp gets to where its not running stuff good i can throw a 6 core and more ram + whatever else is needed (g card, etc.) and get back up for a bit without having to get whole new mobo, 6 cores and ram wont be as expensive when i need to put them in.
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January 20, 2013 4:33:21 AM

eh whats ur max budget and do u need a full rig. im confused sorry.

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January 20, 2013 5:39:16 PM

my budget is 1750, would love to not reach it, and i need a full rig, using if for gaming, only running 1080p. im really liking everything ive put together except the price.
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January 20, 2013 5:58:13 PM

so u need monitor, windows. keyboard. mouse? speakers?

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January 21, 2013 12:19:03 AM

comp wise a full rig, have a kick ass monitor and all that, just rebuilding my comp. i really want to keep the mobo i selected above because that mobo is pretty damn good but not top of the line or anything and i can upgrade everything in say a year and a half when ill need new parts to run the current games at that time. my focus is gaming im only running 1080p so not overclocking or sli for now.
ps i did the total price slightly wrong in my last post, the correct total of all parts without shipping is $1686 and thats getting everything from newegg, prolly gonna use the price checker from your first post and see where i can get the parts cheaper, and microcenter wont work for the cpu, they are all store pick up only and i dont have one close
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January 21, 2013 12:21:03 AM

so total budget is?
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January 21, 2013 12:37:35 AM

well forget that mobo, my budget is 1750 and i need everything for a comp: case, fans, cpu, etc. i have all the accesories: moniter, keyboard/mouse, speakers, etc. if you can come up with a build that loses the ability to upgrade everything without buying a new mobo but is significantly cheaper ill use it if i agree with you. using the rig for gaming, will have multiple applications opened at the same time as game, and running 1080p as the resolution.
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January 21, 2013 1:00:53 AM

ok, so full tower+windows ok.

amd build:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yHev
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yHev/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yHev/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($184.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.62 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($104.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($122.75 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1624.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 21:58 EST-0500)

Base Total: $1620.23
Mail-in Rebates: -$10.00
Shipping: $13.98
Total: $1624.21


and intel build:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yHga
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yHga/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yHga/benchmarks/

CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($104.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($122.75 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Other: 3570k ($230.00)
Total: $1659.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 22:00 EST-0500)

Base Total: $1655.61
Mail-in Rebates: -$10.00
Shipping: $13.98
Total: $1659.59

pick ur poison amd or intel ur choice neo :D 
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January 21, 2013 1:54:40 AM

very nice builds, got a few questions. ill use the gtx 660 ti in the example, running current games maxed would i really need to have duals as you have in your 2 builds, not sure what exact GTX that radeon compares to but if i dont really need it to run it i wont get it, and idk exactly why but i ahve a deep set dislike of radeon cards and amd cpus, so will prolly swap those for gtx 660 ti's. and ive heard nothing good bout wins 8 so ill porlly swap that for windws 7 but other than that ill most likely use your build, swapping the white case for the black one tho, like the black look better :) 
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January 21, 2013 2:24:53 AM

7950 overclock= 680 ish.

but u seem to dislike amd. lol

heres the revised build u want.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yIdb
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yIdb/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yIdb/benchmarks/

CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($115.71 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($122.75 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: 3570k ($230.00)
Total: $1569.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 23:24 EST-0500)

Base Total: $1618.60
Mail-in Rebates: -$60.00
Shipping: $10.72
Total: $1569.32

cheers



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January 21, 2013 2:25:19 AM

also to max out any game 2 would be useful atm.

ive got 1 gtx 660ti i cant max out current games at 60fps.

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January 21, 2013 5:55:49 PM

ok well then 2 it is, i wanna run anything at maxed without problems. very much like the new build, gonna use that, should be able to order parts this week but not sure, thanks for helping me out with this, havent built a comp or even kept up to date with the parts for bout 2 years so a lil rusty.
o yea and the 1 other question i had was about the water cooling for the cpu, i really dont plan on overclocking as i no next to nothing about it, if i dont overclock do i need it?
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January 21, 2013 6:08:48 PM

overclocking is easy with the new sandybridge or sandy-e plateform.

i can get u an air cooler if u prefer.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yONp
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yONp/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yONp/benchmarks/

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($115.71 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($122.75 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: 3570k ($230.00)
Total: $1536.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-21 15:08 EST-0500)

price with new aircooler.

id still get a cooler since it keeps it alot cooler than intel stock.

ase Total: $1590.60
Mail-in Rebates: -$65.00
Shipping: $10.72
Total: $1536.32

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January 21, 2013 6:18:18 PM

one other question, been reading about the 3570k vs the 3770k for gaming, and it seems like your choice of the i5 is a good one, i think i already no the response by the cpu you picked but wats your thoughts on the i5 vs i7 with HT as far as games in the next 2 years, also saw something bout i7 with anything under a gtx 670 is stupid but idk. dont wanna ahve to upgrade for a while but seems like most current games dont use very much HT but might come into games fairly soon, thoughts on it?
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January 21, 2013 6:57:08 PM

might help but still more expensive, like 100$ more. to me its not worth it if ur not developping software or doing heavy multitasking, i7+gtx670 waat? that makes no sense at all.

most games dont use 4cores, so yeah ht isnt needed for quite a while. ull be fine.

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January 22, 2013 2:44:48 AM

alright thats wat i thought.

and the i7 + gtx 670 thing, i was reading about it and some1 posted that having an i7 with any card lower than a gtx 670 was a waste of the processor cause the graphics would bottleneck or something along those lines, didnt understand it very well either lol

thanks again for your help on this
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January 22, 2013 2:53:38 AM

no problem now its best answer time :D ,

and anytime u need more help dont hesitate to write me cheers.

:hello: 
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January 23, 2013 1:16:49 AM

Best answer selected by demonwithin.
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January 23, 2013 1:26:14 AM

cheers.

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