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January 17, 2013 6:52:46 PM

Basically my bro talked me into coming back to WoW (Will be my primary game). I might play some other random games here and there or in the future, but I'm actually fine with playing on medium settings and whatnot.

One thing that I would like to go with is an SSD over a HDD, from what I hear the performance is well worth it (feel free to change my mind, if so a 250g HDD is more than enough for me). I really don't need the extra HDD space since when I game I usually play certain games at a time, so it would be WoW+LoL for a while, or WoW+CoD, etc.

Also, since I have been out of computer gaming for a while after dropping it for college, I don't have a Monitor/Mouse/Keyboard (feel free to throw in suggestions for those, but they are not to be included in the $750, however feel free to include them if I'm overbudgeting for a WoW PC?).

Also, I'm fine with starting at 8gb or so of ram now and then improving in the future.

I'm also cool with something off a shelf at bestbuy, if the cost/time ratio is worth it.

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January 17, 2013 7:06:09 PM

You don't need to upgrade the RAM 8gb is even overkill for gaming.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/y6MU
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/y6MU/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/y6MU/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $720.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-17 16:03 EST-0500)

For monitor/mouse/keyboard I'd get this.

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VS239H-P-23-Inch-Full-HD-Mon...

This is the keyboard/mouse I have and it's good for gaming. It's also cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Desktop-MK120-keyboard-9...
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January 17, 2013 7:16:35 PM

I would recommend a slightly different build. Nvidia graphics cards tend to do better in WoW, so a GTX 650 Ti is a decent option. You won't quite need a 550W power supply, and you can get a slightly cheaper motherboard that even allows you to overclock the CPU a little. Oh, and I think the Corsair 200r is a better deal than the Antec 302 right now. Case choice is a matter of taste though.
If you can live with less room, a 180 GB SSD could be a good option.

And finally, I assume you'll need a copy of Windows.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $761.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-17 16:13 EST-0500)
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January 17, 2013 7:27:02 PM

Sakkura said:
I would recommend a slightly different build. Nvidia graphics cards tend to do better in WoW, so a GTX 650 Ti is a decent option. You won't quite need a 550W power supply, and you can get a slightly cheaper motherboard that even allows you to overclock the CPU a little. Oh, and I think the Corsair 200r is a better deal than the Antec 302 right now. Case choice is a matter of taste though.
If you can live with less room, a 180 GB SSD could be a good option.

And finally, I assume you'll need a copy of Windows.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 180GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $761.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-17 16:13 EST-0500)


Overclocking isn't allowed on that CPU, it needs a K after the numbers to be able to overclock. I'd buy the 7850 it's more powerful.
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January 17, 2013 7:44:15 PM

loresr97 said:
Overclocking isn't allowed on that CPU, it needs a K after the numbers to be able to overclock. I'd buy the 7850 it's more powerful.

It can be overclocked since it is limited unlocked. Only by 400 MHz though.

The 7850 is more powerful but also more expensive.
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January 18, 2013 3:58:26 AM

So the i5 is the best way to go? I think the 650 ti is more than enough power for my goals of playing WoW is it not?

Windows is like 30gb and WoW is about 30 right? So I'd probably be fine at about 120gb of space (in fact that's probably overkill).

Like I said, I go through phases with games, so realistically I don't need more than Windows+a few gigs for whatev+WoW+Space for 1 Game.

Also Memory and overclocking? I'm not super worried about it as long as I can get maximum performance on WoW, and it's probably not the greatest idea since I don't plan on having a fancy cooling system right?
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January 18, 2013 4:02:19 AM

I'd go with soemthing like this,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycvW
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycvW/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycvW/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($72.51 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($225.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.41 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $768.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 01:00 EST-0500)

Might be a little off you budget. So if your not willing to add a bit, or if you need more money to buy an OS., go with a 7850 instead.
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January 18, 2013 4:18:46 AM

admbautista said:
I'd go with soemthing like this,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycvW
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycvW/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycvW/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($72.51 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($225.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.41 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $768.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 01:00 EST-0500)

Might be a little off you budget. So if your not willing to add a bit, or if you need more money to buy an OS., go with a 7850 instead.


But will I even utilize the 7870 on WoW? Realistically I don't want to overkill at all. If I can save $120 and go with a 650 TI and get essentially the same results on WoW I'd rather save the money. I won't be playing games like Skyrim and stuff.

Also I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT NEED a HDD or more than 120gb of storage. So I'd rip that and invest in a bigger SSD (or save it).

I don't have to spend the entire $750, I just wasn't sure how much it would get me, and if I can do it for $500 and still enjoy WoW I would prefer that.
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January 18, 2013 6:32:02 AM

I was just hopnig your gonna play some other games in the future. But with that, I looked fast on this,

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-650-ti-...

so,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ydeN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ydeN/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ydeN/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.41 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $736.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 03:27 EST-0500)

Ill go with 660, for max out, 60fps. but if you want to stick to medium, go 650 ti, or even 7770 for much cheaper price but minimal performance loss.
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January 18, 2013 7:19:44 AM

This should be plenty for your needs and leaves you some cash out of your budget for a new mouse and keyboard (Edit: now included)

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ydw8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ydw8/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ydw8/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.57 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Intel 330 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($92.98 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M90 Wired Laser Mouse ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $708.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 04:33 EST-0500)
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January 18, 2013 9:31:29 AM

A 450W XFX power supply would be better and cheaper than the Corsair CX500. And you can get a GTX 650 Ti for $109.99.
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January 18, 2013 9:38:04 AM

Sakkura said:
A 450W XFX power supply would be better and cheaper than the Corsair CX500. And you can get a GTX 650 Ti for $109.99.


If you can get a 650 ti for that price that's better then, im from the UK, not the hottest on where to buy in US. I had originally priced in the XFX unit but wasnt 100% it would handle everything so went with the 500w to be safe.
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January 18, 2013 10:02:07 AM

The XFX 450W and Corsair CX500 both have 34A on the 12V rail, so they're equally strong where it matters. I'd just consider the XFX higher quality.

Edit: That $109.99 GTX 650 Ti deal seems to have ended. :( 
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January 18, 2013 10:14:29 AM

Sakkura said:
The XFX 450W and Corsair CX500 both have 34A on the 12V rail, so they're equally strong where it matters. I'd just consider the XFX higher quality.

Edit: That $109.99 GTX 650 Ti deal seems to have ended. :( 


That's a good point about the rails, as the XFX is a seasonic unit it probably is the better purchase.

Shame about that deal ending
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January 19, 2013 4:25:19 AM

I went a little higher end on the PSU. Seemed like a good buy, and quiet. Also does give me the option to go a little bigger in the future right (power demand wise)? I just jumped on it. I figure I won't be too disappointed in the long run?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($89.99)
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January 19, 2013 4:35:13 AM

My friend today kinda talked me into going with something that has long term potential to upgrade if I choose to. So I'm leaning towards better PSU/MB.
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January 19, 2013 4:05:08 PM

Doggcow said:
I went a little higher end on the PSU. Seemed like a good buy, and quiet. Also does give me the option to go a little bigger in the future right (power demand wise)? I just jumped on it. I figure I won't be too disappointed in the long run?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($89.99)

I can't find any reviews, but I'm pretty sure that's an excellent PSU.
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January 20, 2013 7:30:21 PM

So I'm really getting hung up on motherboards. What do I need? What makes one good? I don't know anything about them. It seems like Intel is the way to go as far as processors too?

Also cases? Do I need to worry about ventilation and stuff? This seems solid and cheap, I don't care how they look.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Any tips and tricks for installing too? I've read some good stuff about Arctic Silver? Do I need it?
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January 20, 2013 9:39:16 PM

Motherboard... it's mostly a matter of features. Do you need this many or that many PCIe ports, do you want SLI/Crossfire, do you want overclocking, how much/how fast memory, and so on.

If you're not overclocking and don't need too many extra features, you can go with a pretty cheap motherboard and get perfect performance for your needs, no different from a board costing three times as much.

Cases are a matter of taste when it comes to the look and what features you want. You do want at least decent cooling though. That case you linked is decent, on the reasonably cheap end of the spectrum.

You won't need to worry about Arctic Silver or other thermal paste for the CPU cooler; the stock cooler that comes with these CPUs has pre-applied thermal paste.
There are a lot of good guides around for assembly. Feel free to ask if you can't find any, or have other questions.
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January 21, 2013 3:19:06 AM

Sakkura said:
Motherboard... it's mostly a matter of features. Do you need this many or that many PCIe ports, do you want SLI/Crossfire, do you want overclocking, how much/how fast memory, and so on.

If you're not overclocking and don't need too many extra features, you can go with a pretty cheap motherboard and get perfect performance for your needs, no different from a board costing three times as much.

Cases are a matter of taste when it comes to the look and what features you want. You do want at least decent cooling though. That case you linked is decent, on the reasonably cheap end of the spectrum.

You won't need to worry about Arctic Silver or other thermal paste for the CPU cooler; the stock cooler that comes with these CPUs has pre-applied thermal paste.
There are a lot of good guides around for assembly. Feel free to ask if you can't find any, or have other questions.



If for instance I decide to start playing more gfx requiring games would that PSU support a second gfx card? I could add it later, something to consider but not something I'd need to do. If so, which slots do I need?
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January 21, 2013 8:47:55 AM

Doggcow said:
If for instance I decide to start playing more gfx requiring games would that PSU support a second gfx card? I could add it later, something to consider but not something I'd need to do. If so, which slots do I need?

It would support a second graphics card, as long as we're not talking the most power-hungry cards around (a pair of 7970s might be pushing your luck, for example).

You'll want a motherboard that can provide an x8/x8 PCIe configuration. Be careful, most of the manufacturers refer mainly to the slot size and call it x16 when it may only run at eg. x4 speed.

The problem is that the motherboards with that capability are also all going to be ones made for overclocking, so they end up costing a fair bit more. Eg. an Asrock Z77 Extreme4:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 21, 2013 8:46:37 PM

Doggcow said:
Which one is better? That ASRock one or this guy? www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681313183...

It was up on the DEALZ, so I figured it must be better right?

Depends on what you need. Each board has points in its favor. I'd personally say the Asrock board comes out ahead in general, having eg. more power phases, support for higher memory frequency, and a better sound codec. The Asus board has an extra PCIe x4 port, and all fan headers are 4-pins (but there are fewer of them than on the Asrock board). There are various other little differences.
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January 25, 2013 6:43:38 AM

What about an AMD 8350 vs that Intel processor? They're at the same pricepoint?

I could care less which company I buy from btw.
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January 25, 2013 7:14:02 AM

Also if I went AMD would this MoBo be good? Seems like a sweet deal with the RAM? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Oh I should also note, I wasn't planning on getting extra cooling or anything? Would I need to? Is it hard? I'm also not considering a lot of overclocking (unless it's a really big benefit?) right away, but maybe in the future, however, I doubt I'll need a ton o extra performance, so overclocking might be more of a worry for me than just going stock. I'd rather not have to worry about my cpu temperature and whatnot unless it's easy to manage?
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January 25, 2013 1:44:05 PM

I can tell you on my fx 8120 I got an overclock to 4 ghz with no extra voltage. I have a v6 gt for cooling, but even a hyper 212 would probably not do bad. But the overclock for me was a nice bump, as my CPU was 3.1 ghz stock, but so far it does great at 4 ghz.
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January 25, 2013 8:12:23 PM

Doggcow said:
What about an AMD 8350 vs that Intel processor? They're at the same pricepoint?

I could care less which company I buy from btw.

The Core i5 is better for gaming. What you could do is grab an FX-6300, which is going to be pretty close to the FX-8350 for gaming (since the difference between 8 and 6 cores in games is going to be very small), and it's pretty cheap. Only costs a little more than a Core i3. With a good overclock, it could be pretty decent.

You'll still need to buy a cooler to overclock well. The Asrock 970 Extreme3 could be pretty decent with the FX-6300. It does only have 4+1 power phases, which may or may not limit overclocking. I wouldn't really want to overclock an FX-8350 on it, but a 6300 isn't quite as power-hungry.

@the keyboard and mouse, I felt a little skeptical until I checked some reviews.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4994/azio_levetron_mec...
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January 25, 2013 10:58:28 PM

Depending on budget give the gigabyte 970a-ud3 a look. That's the board I've got. Seems like a rock solid board. I definitely can recommend it. Like I said I've got my 8120 at 4ghz on stock voltage.

The other thing I do recommend if you get the fx 6300 is get an aftermarket cooler. I do not know if the cooler is the same, but I worked on a kids gaming rig who had an fx6100, using stock cooler and stock paste, CPU fried in about 3 months, the stock cooler was only really solid in the middle with a copper center. I was not impressed by that stock cooler. Can anyone confirm if the fx6300 uses the same design? If so I do recommend a hyper 212. After putting a new 6100 in that system and a hyper 212 the temps dropped like 20 degrees using artic silver 5 vs the original stock cooler.
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January 25, 2013 11:13:40 PM

That board is a pretty good option if you want 8 + 2 power phases.

Stock coolers are usually sucky. And since AMDs processors draw relatively large amounts of power, an aftermarket cooler is a really good idea. Practically mandatory for overclocking.
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January 27, 2013 8:09:12 PM

I was reading some bad things about AMD, also overclocking more of an issue since they are more power hungry (thus more expensive if I need an aftermarket fan right?). So I'm leaning toward a 3570k to be more future proof, with the ASRock board, and a 650 Ti 2gb. I beat my pricepoint by about $50 if I buy them outright now. Since I'm going so slowly I kind of have a little bit more of a budget.

Would those 3 be solid buys at the prices I'm looking at?

3570k: $229.99 $10 gift card
EVGA 650ti 2gb: $179.99 $10 MIR
ASRock Board: $134.99 $10 MIR
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January 27, 2013 8:50:24 PM

Also, what's better? SLI vs Crossfire? Buying a more affordable Graphics Card now and then adding a second one to it? Or a more expensive one like the non-SLI 179 650 ti?
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January 27, 2013 11:56:15 PM

How will 3570 be more future proof as socket 1155 is going out soon. With AMD they might release steamroller next year. As for amd you can say what you want, I've been using amd CPUs for the last 15 years, all of my CPUs have always been reliable and given me good performance.
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January 28, 2013 12:04:07 AM

ohiou_grad_06 said:
How will 3570 be more future proof as socket 1155 is going out soon.

I think he means without swapping CPUs later on.

The 3570k is the better CPU for gaming, but if you can get a better graphics card by stepping down to the FX-6300 then that can definitely be worthwhile.

As for SLI/Crossfire, the HD 6000s are known to microstutter worse than the GTX 500s when paired up, but I think the 7000 series has narrowed that gap considerably. At the high end, AMD even hold the edge because their cards come with more VRAM by default. But anyway, I tend to recommend going with a single more powerful card rather than two lower end cards in SLI/Crossfire, if possible.
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January 28, 2013 12:32:51 AM

So I should go with this as a gfx card? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Should handle everything out there pretty well right?

And yes, I was saying in the future I will OC my processor, once I get a little more savvy on the computer I've built, which gives me more performance in the long run. When I upgrade in 4 or 5 months, I'll be gutting the Mobo/cpu/gpu and giving them to my brother (who ONLY plays wow), so he will be more than fine.
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January 28, 2013 12:34:03 AM

I went with this mobo and the 3570k btw http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Just because I was reading the bios and support will be easy for someone new to understand. Only ends up being $15 more than the ASRock board.

How much do I really have to worry about parts being DOA? How will I know? How much of a pain in the ass is it too?

Really crossing my fingers that I'm not out of commission for an extra couple weeks because of bad parts. If it ends up being the mobo or ram or something I could just buy another set while I RMA it since I'm also passing down parts.
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January 28, 2013 3:10:17 AM

Should I get a 650ti with only 1gb ram? I was told 2 was a lot better.

Feel free to respond, I bought it since that is a pretty good deal, and my gf hasn't played Borderlands 2 yet. I figure it will be more than powerful enough for WoW when I pass it down to my brother, right?
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January 28, 2013 3:43:20 AM
January 28, 2013 4:13:43 AM

I just submitted my order for the CPU as well. How did I do?

$725 for all the components. $820 total with the keyboard and mouse (Since I found a good deal on them)

After $65 in rebates though. Hopefully I get those back. $10 Newegg Promo card lol
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January 28, 2013 4:53:10 AM

I could'nt say much because you already bought them... My thoughts about your build..

1. I think you have a gpu bottleneck. You went too far with a overclockable build that increased your cost but stayed with a 650ti. In the future, if you plan to play more intensive games. You would need to either add another 650 ti (I think not much of a performance increase since it is only a 650 ti, and would also increase your power consumption) or replace that with a higher end gfx card which would really increase your total cost.

2. If I were you, With that budget, I would have stayed with a 3470 and got a higher end gfx card. This would had saved you money from the upgrading of gfx card/adding another 650 ti in the future. But yes, picking the 3570k would be like more future proof, but not that much. for example the 3570k could proof you for 4 years, while the 3470 could have proofed you for 3 years. (Not exact years, just trying to spill out the ratio). But remember for picking the 3570k build, it would cost more money because of the gfx card upgrade. So that just my opinion. to sum up its like this,

your build, $820 + roughly $300 (gpu upgrade)= $1100+ = 4 years
3470 build $800 = 3 years

years are just rough estimation though. Any way its just my opinion so you can disregard this comment :lol: 

And yea, you posted 3 times in a row, isn't just that your bumping? :lol: 
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January 28, 2013 2:05:27 PM

1. As I stated above, the graphics card is going to be handed down relatively soon for the soul purpose of playing WoW (so playing more intensive games is irrelevant). Also, if I hand down the mobo/cpu which is likely as well, isn't WoW more CPU intensive than GPU?

2. Where were you getting a 3470 for $200 less than I paid for my $220 3570k? The pricepoint on newegg is $199.99 for 3470 vs $219.99 for 3570k, but that would be a way better deal and I'd like to jump on it lol.
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January 28, 2013 3:25:12 PM

Don't think you can sli 650ti. When I was shopping for gfx cards the 650 ti cards I saw didnt have the sli bridge on them.
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January 28, 2013 4:10:38 PM

I'm pretty sure you can't SLI them, but like I said, I'm not worried about that as much as getting up and running now. Then I can pass the card down (more than enough for my bro to run wow). So the cost isn't as relevant as being able to afford it right now and still go on my planned vacations and whatnot lol
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January 28, 2013 5:20:51 PM

Doggcow said:
I just submitted my order for the CPU as well. How did I do?

$725 for all the components. $820 total with the keyboard and mouse (Since I found a good deal on them)

After $65 in rebates though. Hopefully I get those back. $10 Newegg Promo card lol

Only thing that stands out to me is the RAM, which looks too expensive. The power supply is really expensive now, but it was a good deal when you bought it.

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Should I get a 650ti with only 1gb ram? I was told 2 was a lot better.

Feel free to respond, I bought it since that is a pretty good deal, and my gf hasn't played Borderlands 2 yet. I figure it will be more than powerful enough for WoW when I pass it down to my brother, right?

Nah... the GTX 650 Ti will usually already be struggling once you reach the point where 2GB becomes necessary.
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January 28, 2013 5:45:05 PM

The ram I got for $29.99 on a shell shocker

And cool, so the gfx card should be more than fine for me until I upgrade it, and great as a hand-me-down to my bro in a few months, since I don't see WoW needing more for him.

I splurged a little on the mobo/cpu, but I think that will be worth it in the long run (also I would prefer to be up and running a week sooner, than waiting around for more specials I think)
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January 29, 2013 7:32:38 PM

Thanks a ton for all the help guys. I'll let you know how it all goes in a week. I should be putting it together this weekend. *Crossing my fingers no dead parts*
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