Mid-Range Workstation $2000

[mishaangelo]

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next week.
Budget Range: Would prefer to keep it under $2000, but it is flexible.
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Solidworks/Mastercam
Are you buying a monitor:Yes
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: It does not particularly matter
Location: Texas
Parts Preferences: I would prefer an Intel CPU, particularly the 3930k, and am wanting the Quadro 4000 as far as a GPU
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080(am wanting a 27" monitor)

Additional Comments: Ultimately, I will be building two of these workstations. I am not doing any extremely large assemblies, but would like to have the capability. I would not mind stepping down either the CPU or the GPU, if need be, to keep it within a reasonable amount.

 

[properbuilds]

Hi, here's some build for you, a 670 gtx is better than a quadro 4000 as far as it's for the gpu for those things, it's a dated card the quadro 4000.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler ($82.34 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($217.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.00 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer
Monitor: Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2000.12
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Fell free to change anything if you want to, like the cpu for the i7-3820 : http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80619i73820

 

[iceclock]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ybH4
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ybH4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ybH4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS278Q-P 27.0" Monitor ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1879.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-17 23:35 EST-0500)

Base Total: $1994.87
Combo Discounts: -$20.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$45.00
Shipping: $8.50
Total: $1938.37

:0 nice build proper but the beast i got him has better ram. better ssd. and better gpu



no need for such an expensive cooler. waste of money for a workstation.

 

[properbuilds]

Hi, that samsung is no better than a 240GB SSD from sandisk extreme, the samsung 840 has TLC NAND, which in heavy workloads it's gonna be slow than other ssds, like the sandisk extreme.
The gpu is not better in anyway, 2GB on what he's gonna do, is plenty 4GB is useless, you just brought a overpriced card.

If you wanna do something do it proper like :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($228.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.00 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS278Q-P 27.0" Monitor ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1924.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

 

[iceclock]

the case i chose is better. graphic cards better 4 vs 2gb is strategic for video editing.

corsair eats up muskin for breakfast quality wise.

i personally use the 840 and is zippy as hell.

i dont trust sandisk with ssds no offence its not there domain.

my power supply is of better quality and energy efficiency as urs.

thanks for playing

 

[iceclock]

revised build with ips panel 27 inch from aoc better image quality for graphic design and etc.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yc2j
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yc2j/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yc2j/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: Aoc Ips 27 inch ($299.99)
Total: $1879.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 00:02 EST-0500)

Base Total: $1994.87
Combo Discounts: -$20.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$45.00
Shipping: $8.50
Total: $1938.37

 

[properbuilds]

Hi, the corsair ram has cas 10, the mushkin cas 9, same speeds, and you say the corsair is better ?
Don't insult me.
The sandisk extreme 240GB is more reliable than the samsung 840 with TLC NAND, and faster under heavy load
See here for tips : http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/12/19/samsung_840_series_tlc_250gb_ssd_review/10

There's no point in spending in a 4GB 670 gtx for what he needs, you don't have a clue, you just put a 670 gtx which is overpriced.
The xfx 650w is plenty for his needs, it's as good as other 650w psus, it's made by seasonic
Another tip here : http://hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu/2

I see that you like bashing other peoples suggestions, and with fallacies, it seems to me, that this is just a game for you and you just seek the glory of a best answer which is sad, instead of helping the others and being respectuful
In case you didn't know, i put that one for you, with your good parts, you can change it, but do not bash the others.

 

[iceclock]

if u say so, moving on, 4 gigs will come in handy with alot of photo manipulation and video editing, also the xfx is less power efficient and the sunflower 650 gold is better sorry.

also ur perceptions of things is off.
in real world u wont be seeing real performance increase from cas 10 to 9.

also the 840 is very decent, and linking to one hardware site doesnt make u right.

the panel i chose is of better quality, its a brand new ips 27 inch and cant be beaten by the asus u chose.

And Ive been here for a while dude, dont play the newguy card wont work.

 

[properbuilds]

Hi, you're being childish with mine is better than yours nah nah nah type of thing, you could have some points on the motherboard,monitor or other suggestion, but the ram you're wrong, you said it was better it wasn't, a fallacy.
The 4GB card is also a fallacy, i'm sorry you'll just making him spend more for nothing.
See the web for samsung 840 TLC NAND, it's not just me, it's better to have a proper ssd for heavy loads, the samsung 840 is more for casual consumer.
I'm not victimizing, but it's the truth you always bash other peoples suggestions here, saying that yours is better, that's not respectful.
Like i said, you could change the thing i did, and put what you think it's really the best, if a 120GB/128GB SDD is better value for him, etc.
Like i said it seems it's a game for you, for me i was trying to help the guy, you can have the gold, best answer, the glory, i don't care, i just try to help like any other here.

 

[maestro0428]

I would go with the 840 Pro from Samsung. I use them in my rigs and they are very fast and reliable (so far). I really think you should get a pro series card. Although the Quadro 4000 is getting long in the tooth, its still faster than any gaming card at Solidworks. You will be glad you spent the extra dough in that area. I would also choose 2*8 memory so that you have an upgrade path to 32GB. I run 32GB of memory so that I can run pro apps and a Ramdisk of 10GB which makes many apps faster.

 

[mishaangelo]

Both of you have been very helpful. I will definitely be taking parts from each of your suggestions into consideration. No need to start disputing things so trivial.

I will look into it a little more this weekend, thanks for your time thus far.

 

[iceclock]

second this, im gonna take propers info into consideration, and a gtx 680 would be faster for ur type of work.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycjN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycjN/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycjN/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($489.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS278Q-P 27.0" Monitor ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1950.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 00:33 EST-0500)

Base Total: $2055.87
Combo Discounts: -$20.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$45.00
Shipping: $18.49
Total: $2009.36
(Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)

got u a slightly better ssd drive, better gpu. and the ram that properbuild recommanded.

 

[properbuilds]

Hi, that's better, and without any bashing from your part
But i still think a 670 gtx, will suffice for his needs, that allows for a larger sdd, which might prove to be essential for his needs, the first card was a gigabyte 670 gtx windforce 3, the second one i put a windforce 2, it's cheaper, it could be a good card to fit a larger ssd, so if you made those changes, it will be better for him.

 

[iceclock]

hmm will take into consideration.

propels revised rig ideas:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycqt
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycqt/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycqt/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS278Q-P 27.0" Monitor ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1905.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 00:46 EST-0500)

Base Total: $2020.87
Combo Discounts: -$20.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$45.00
Shipping: $8.50
Total: $1964.37

appreciate the ideas proper

 

[properbuilds]

That's really good, if he needs to shave off 20$, change the case for the antec one, it's a good one, it's 49.99$ in newegg, and if the psu doesn't fit, a hive from rosewill could prove to be cheaper, it's not as good, but just a suggestion.
And that's that, there's no more thing to improve.

 

[iceclock]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycBg
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycBg/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ycBg/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS-I ID ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.42 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($79.33 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS278Q-P 27.0" Monitor ($299.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1887.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-18 01:14 EST-0500)

Base Total: $1992.64
Combo Discounts: -$20.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$35.00
Shipping: $8.50
Total: $1946.14

coolio

 

[mishaangelo]

Alright, I've looked through everything, and came up with this setup:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($86.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Dell S2740L 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2100.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-20 23:09 EST-0500)

Knowing I could spend up to $2200, what changes would you make to the list above, and for what reason?