Hello there guys and gals!
This is my first ever post on these forums, so bear with me please. It will also be a rather long post, simply cause I want to ask every possible question that I can think of, and gather as much information as I can. So, the thing is, I'm starting to build let's say a gaming build, more of an all-round build to be precise, which will also suit me well for gaming. I plan to do some visual programming, maybe some photo and video editing, and some occasional gaming (I'm a big WoW fan ). As far as choice goes in my country, there's not much of it. I'll list the components which are on my agenda (along with prices converted in US dollars and euros - for the European members around here, according to the currency rates here), so I would like some opinions and advises on what would be the best value for me.
MB: I already purchased a Gigabyte Z77-DS3H for 120.76$ (90.33EUR).
CPU: I'm putting a lot of thought on this one. I'm thinking of an i5 most certainly, tho I'm not sure on the model. For starters, I don't plan to do any overclocking at first, tho I may in the future (I know you will probably judge me on my mobo choice, since it's more overclocking-oriented than a non-Z77 chipset mobos, but I believe I bought it for a good price, that was nearly identical with Z68 or H77 mobos, price-wise). Let me list the prices of CPUs:
- i5 3450 - 234.9$ (175.7EUR) - not in stock
- i5 3470 - 241.4$ (180.57EUR) - in stock
- i5 3550 - 250$ (187EUR) - not in stock
- i5 3570K - 287.4$ (214.96EUR) - in stock
The reason I wrote which one is in stock, and the reason I listed the 3570K is simply because of my first 2 questions:
1. Is any of the processors which aren't currently in stock worth the wait because of its price/performance ratio?
2. Is the 3570K worth it, just for the possibility to overclock it in the future, as I may see fit? As I said, I may overclock some time in the future, but the chances are more in favor of not doing that.
Graphics card: My second big dilemma. I'll also list the cards that I have set my eyes on (according to my budget).
- Sapphire ATI PCX HD 7870 2GB GDDR5 HDMI / 2xDVI / DP - 298.5$ (223.25EUR) - not in stock
- Sapphire ATI PCX HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 HDMI w/3D / 2xDVI / DP - 266.85$ (199.6EUR) - in stock
- ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5 - 260.65$ (194.96EUR) - in stock
- Gigabyte PCX GeForce GTX660 2GB DDR5 HDMI/2xDVI/DP Overclock - 285.65$ (213.66EUR) - in stock
- ASUS GTX660-DC2-2GD5 - 317.4$ (237.4EUR) - in stock
My 4 questions for this section:
3. Same as for the processors, is the Sapphire HD7870 worth the wait because of its price/performance ratio?
4. How should I know which versions of the cards I have listed? I mean, I checked the Sapphire web-site for example, there are 4 or 5 versions of the same card available. Btw, don't trust too much on the names (specs) of the cards I've listed (knowing the "effort" the companies here use when listing their products), I just want to know a way of finding out which versions of the cards are available on my market (be it checking the box physically, or checking the Part Number, or something else).
5. I read a lot that there are some serious issues with the 78xx cards, and I'm kinda concerned. Should I be?
6. If there is any suggestion or a heads-up or a recommendation for any other version, model or manufacturer that you think will be suitable in this price range, please let me know (I'm asking this, cause there is one more shop I haven't checked yet, and I don't know what manufacturers they're selling).
RAM: I'm planning on putting 8 GB of RAM (2x4GB).
- DIMM 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz Kingston CL9 Hyper X Genesis - 30.33$ (22.68EUR) - in stock
- Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3, 1600MHz, Vengeance, 8GB 2x240 Dimm, Unbuffered, 7-8-8-24 - 86.96$ (65.04EUR) - not in stock
- Kingston HyperX T1 Series 8GB 1600MHz (2x4GB) DDR3 (Kit of 2) - 84.78$ (63.41EUR) - in stock
- Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3, 1600MHz, Vengeance, 8GB 2x240 Dimm, Unbuffered, 8-9-8-24 - 79.98$ (59.82EUR) - not in stock
- Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB 1600MHz (2x4GB) DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 240-pin DIMM - 51.07$ (38.21EUR) - in stock
- Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz, CMV4GX3M1A1600C11 1X240 DIMM, Unbuffered - 27.37$ (20.47EUR) - in stock
7. So, again, is it worth waiting for the Corsair Vengeance, according to the parts I want to put so far? If not, which one would you recommend?
8. What's the difference between CL9 and CL11? Any significant performance gains/losses between the 2?
PSU: I'm guessing a 500-550 watts PSU would be enough for my gear (if not, or I can go a bit lower, please let me know). I'll list some higher ones also, just in case.
- PSU 620W SeaSonic S12II Bronze Silent 12cm Fan - 125.65$ (93.98EUR)
- PSU 700W Gigabyte ODIN Plus Real Power, 80 Plus, Silent - 115$ (86.02EUR)
- PSU 620W Gigabyte Superb Real Power, Silent - 86.74$ (64.88EUR)
- Power supply CoolerMaster Real Power M 620W modular Active - 132.48$ (99.09EUR)
- CoolerMaster Silent Pro M II 520W 80plus bronze w/135mm Fan, single 12V rail - 134.57$ (100.65EUR)
- CM Silent Pro 500W RS500-AMBAD3-EU Silent Pro 500W 80plus w/135mm Fan, single 12V rail - 108.48$ (81.14EUR)
There are a lot more PSUs, but I don't want to spam the thread, I think you get the idea of the prices. Mainly Cooler Masters (which I'll probably get). Now, for the question:
9. Do you have some preferred CM series to suggest? Something that will be sufficient for my build, but not a top-drawer one. I'm thinking between Thunder, Real Power, GX-Lite, GX, Thunder M, and Silent Pro M. I think anything above won't fit in my budget.
I think that's about it. Again, very sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance for your replies. Cheers!
This is my first ever post on these forums, so bear with me please. It will also be a rather long post, simply cause I want to ask every possible question that I can think of, and gather as much information as I can. So, the thing is, I'm starting to build let's say a gaming build, more of an all-round build to be precise, which will also suit me well for gaming. I plan to do some visual programming, maybe some photo and video editing, and some occasional gaming (I'm a big WoW fan ). As far as choice goes in my country, there's not much of it. I'll list the components which are on my agenda (along with prices converted in US dollars and euros - for the European members around here, according to the currency rates here), so I would like some opinions and advises on what would be the best value for me.
MB: I already purchased a Gigabyte Z77-DS3H for 120.76$ (90.33EUR).
CPU: I'm putting a lot of thought on this one. I'm thinking of an i5 most certainly, tho I'm not sure on the model. For starters, I don't plan to do any overclocking at first, tho I may in the future (I know you will probably judge me on my mobo choice, since it's more overclocking-oriented than a non-Z77 chipset mobos, but I believe I bought it for a good price, that was nearly identical with Z68 or H77 mobos, price-wise). Let me list the prices of CPUs:
- i5 3450 - 234.9$ (175.7EUR) - not in stock
- i5 3470 - 241.4$ (180.57EUR) - in stock
- i5 3550 - 250$ (187EUR) - not in stock
- i5 3570K - 287.4$ (214.96EUR) - in stock
The reason I wrote which one is in stock, and the reason I listed the 3570K is simply because of my first 2 questions:
1. Is any of the processors which aren't currently in stock worth the wait because of its price/performance ratio?
2. Is the 3570K worth it, just for the possibility to overclock it in the future, as I may see fit? As I said, I may overclock some time in the future, but the chances are more in favor of not doing that.
Graphics card: My second big dilemma. I'll also list the cards that I have set my eyes on (according to my budget).
- Sapphire ATI PCX HD 7870 2GB GDDR5 HDMI / 2xDVI / DP - 298.5$ (223.25EUR) - not in stock
- Sapphire ATI PCX HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 HDMI w/3D / 2xDVI / DP - 266.85$ (199.6EUR) - in stock
- ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5 - 260.65$ (194.96EUR) - in stock
- Gigabyte PCX GeForce GTX660 2GB DDR5 HDMI/2xDVI/DP Overclock - 285.65$ (213.66EUR) - in stock
- ASUS GTX660-DC2-2GD5 - 317.4$ (237.4EUR) - in stock
My 4 questions for this section:
3. Same as for the processors, is the Sapphire HD7870 worth the wait because of its price/performance ratio?
4. How should I know which versions of the cards I have listed? I mean, I checked the Sapphire web-site for example, there are 4 or 5 versions of the same card available. Btw, don't trust too much on the names (specs) of the cards I've listed (knowing the "effort" the companies here use when listing their products), I just want to know a way of finding out which versions of the cards are available on my market (be it checking the box physically, or checking the Part Number, or something else).
5. I read a lot that there are some serious issues with the 78xx cards, and I'm kinda concerned. Should I be?
6. If there is any suggestion or a heads-up or a recommendation for any other version, model or manufacturer that you think will be suitable in this price range, please let me know (I'm asking this, cause there is one more shop I haven't checked yet, and I don't know what manufacturers they're selling).
RAM: I'm planning on putting 8 GB of RAM (2x4GB).
- DIMM 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz Kingston CL9 Hyper X Genesis - 30.33$ (22.68EUR) - in stock
- Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3, 1600MHz, Vengeance, 8GB 2x240 Dimm, Unbuffered, 7-8-8-24 - 86.96$ (65.04EUR) - not in stock
- Kingston HyperX T1 Series 8GB 1600MHz (2x4GB) DDR3 (Kit of 2) - 84.78$ (63.41EUR) - in stock
- Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3, 1600MHz, Vengeance, 8GB 2x240 Dimm, Unbuffered, 8-9-8-24 - 79.98$ (59.82EUR) - not in stock
- Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB 1600MHz (2x4GB) DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 240-pin DIMM - 51.07$ (38.21EUR) - in stock
- Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz, CMV4GX3M1A1600C11 1X240 DIMM, Unbuffered - 27.37$ (20.47EUR) - in stock
7. So, again, is it worth waiting for the Corsair Vengeance, according to the parts I want to put so far? If not, which one would you recommend?
8. What's the difference between CL9 and CL11? Any significant performance gains/losses between the 2?
PSU: I'm guessing a 500-550 watts PSU would be enough for my gear (if not, or I can go a bit lower, please let me know). I'll list some higher ones also, just in case.
- PSU 620W SeaSonic S12II Bronze Silent 12cm Fan - 125.65$ (93.98EUR)
- PSU 700W Gigabyte ODIN Plus Real Power, 80 Plus, Silent - 115$ (86.02EUR)
- PSU 620W Gigabyte Superb Real Power, Silent - 86.74$ (64.88EUR)
- Power supply CoolerMaster Real Power M 620W modular Active - 132.48$ (99.09EUR)
- CoolerMaster Silent Pro M II 520W 80plus bronze w/135mm Fan, single 12V rail - 134.57$ (100.65EUR)
- CM Silent Pro 500W RS500-AMBAD3-EU Silent Pro 500W 80plus w/135mm Fan, single 12V rail - 108.48$ (81.14EUR)
There are a lot more PSUs, but I don't want to spam the thread, I think you get the idea of the prices. Mainly Cooler Masters (which I'll probably get). Now, for the question:
9. Do you have some preferred CM series to suggest? Something that will be sufficient for my build, but not a top-drawer one. I'm thinking between Thunder, Real Power, GX-Lite, GX, Thunder M, and Silent Pro M. I think anything above won't fit in my budget.
I think that's about it. Again, very sorry for the long post, and thank you in advance for your replies. Cheers!