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Upgrading my card,but no clue what im doing.

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December 3, 2012 10:42:50 PM

Allright,i own a HP Pavilion HPE h8-1080t CTO Desktop PC (dont even know if that detail matters) and im wanting to upgrade my graphics card,but i have no idea what im doing as i am not very PC savvy...or at all.as much as iv gathered all the details i still need that concrete answer "yes this will work" before i go blindly jumping into it.The card im currently looking at is the nVidia geforce GTX 660 ti but if i can go higher i will,or whatever is best i suppose.These are my Specs including the card im using now.


OS: windows 7

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-970 six-core [3.2GHz, 1.5MB L2+12MB shared L3 cache]

Memory: 12GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [DIMMs]

Hard Drive: 2TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive

Graphics Card: 1GB DDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti [2 DVI,mini-HDMI. VGA adapter]

Power Supply: 600W Power supply

Im hoping that says enough,i honestly dont know.iv only had this pc for about a year 1/2 maybe abit more,but im hoping for sure answers in what i can and cant use.

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a b U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 10:50:30 PM

your system its actually very good, you should be able to upgrade to any card on the market, just check the size the best cards are about 10" long, so if it fits on your case go for it.
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a b U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 10:58:03 PM

I feel ya man. That 550ti just didnt have enough balls to game where Id like. I bought a H8-1260t not to long ago (9 Months) and just updated my gpu. It should work.

Im assuming you have the same PSU as me as Id think HP would use the same 600W unit in all their units.

Pic of my PSU

http://s1336.beta.photobucket.com/user/simmons333/media...

Same stats? Be nice if you could post a pic of yours =D

I only went up to a GTX 660 from my 500TI as I dont want to put too much stress on an HP PSU. (Can never fully trust OEM parts =/ )

This is a list of GPUs you had the choice to pick from when you configured your PC (This is just for giggles)

GeForce GT420 (2 GB)
GeForce GT440 (1.5 GB)
GeForce GT440 (3 GB)
GeForce GTX460 (1 GB)
GeForce GT530 (2 GB)
GeForce GT545 (3 GB)
GeForce GTX550ti (1 GB)
Radeon HD 6450 (1 GB)
Radeon HD 6570 (1 GB) single bracket; DVI, HDMI, & VGA via adapter
Radeon HD 6570 (1 GB) single bracket; DVI, HDMI, DP & VGA via adapter
Radeon HD 6670 (1 GB)
Radeon HD 6850 (1 GB)

Still be nice to have a pic of your PSU. Just to make sure you have enough of what you need to run your card. But im pretty sure you do. =D

And like the guy above me said. Be sure you have enough space in your case. You appear to have the same case as me. And fitting a 9Inch card im my case was a (*#^$! due to where the Hard Drive bay is =/

The 660 required only one PCI-e connector. And my PSU only had One, otherwise Id had gone for the 660 ti (Which requires 2) but with the Molex connectors, that shouldnt be an issue
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a b U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 11:10:18 PM

if you dont want to risk on the size thing, heres a 660 gtx 2gb, zotac.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

it may be not a well known brand as evga but i heard if you register your product with them they give you lifetime warranty. and their 660 gtx its only 7.5" long. hope it helps :D 
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December 5, 2012 5:21:10 PM

ok sorry its taken some time but i was finally able to open my case and look around,and i have to say despite knowing all the dementions its hard to tell what will fit and what wont with all the wires and what not.also i made sure to get a few pics and a shot of the psu.the pci thing you mentioned the connectors,i have no idea wether it has one or two.but here are the links to my pics.the help has been greatly appreciated. :) .....also i geuss i totally left what i do on said PC,im a huge gamer and i play pretty much any new game thats releasing right now but as you said before simmons im trying to get that extra boost for what i have and particularly future games like rome 2 total war,arma 3 (whenever that comes out) and just about anything else in the near future.

a shot of the whole case http://s123.beta.photobucket.com/user/strider390/librar...


a shot of the power supply http://s123.beta.photobucket.com/user/strider390/media/...


and just other close angles http://s123.beta.photobucket.com/user/strider390/media/...



http://s123.beta.photobucket.com/user/strider390/media/...
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a b U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 12:00:16 AM

Its allright. See this was the problem I had. Because of HP's shitty wire management(and case in general) , I felt, personally, that size was a bit of an issue. With size comes ability with graphic cards (Usually). Looking at your Pics, we have the !Exact! same layout.

Feel free to gaze at these photos (Should they be of some use to you.

Original GPU (550 TI) - http://s669.beta.photobucket.com/user/arcanecasster/med...

New GPU ( 660 ) - http://s669.beta.photobucket.com/user/arcanecasster/med...

In short. Looking at your PSU (And since its the same model of mine) It should be able to support a 660 ti just fine. Since you have the same case as me, it "should" fit depending on what model you buy.

As you can see, I had to bind many of the wire together myself.

As for size. I can't fit anything over 9.6 inches. And it appears thats the same for you. Id just browse newegg, and either go withs brands you trust, or go by size. Should you find yourself in a pinch, may I suggest this card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Its not a 660 ti, but it is a 660, and It fits perfectly inside my case. Not to mention it kicks the 550 ti's ass sooooo much.
There is also the 660ti version of the said card, and If your feeling daring, it should fit
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a b U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 12:04:14 AM

Also, Im glad to see HP gave you a nice beefy heatsink for the 6 core Intel CPU :D 

I have the Intel Core i7-2600 4 core (3.4Ghz) and it never gets maxed out with todays games. You certainly wont have any bottlenecks to speak of lol

Last thing. That supporting bar thats holding you GPU in place? I had to take mine out due to where most aftermarket cards place their power plugs. As long as you dont move the case about ALOT, that wont be a problem

I hope Ive helped, feel free to ask more questions :D 
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December 6, 2012 12:12:05 AM

im very glad to hear that! and that last post was alot of help :D  ill definetly consider the card you have,im very close to making my final choice now ,but yeah that wad of wires is very intimidating just gotta be carefull if i need to move them around lol. though i have to ask what you meant about wether o PSU's supported a certain amount of cpi-e connectors i had a total brain fart trying to figure out what i had or if i even understood what that was,but if i know i need to go for a particular type of card for that reason that could narrow it down,and id probably just go for the 660 particularly the one you recomended,and again thanks. :) 


yeah i had wondered if the support bar was really that important.
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a b U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 12:20:37 AM

Yeah, See the PCI-e (To be formal) is what supplies the extra power your card needs. The slot you plug the GPU in, is a PCI-e slot. It supplies 75Watts of power. Thats fine for slow,low end cards, raid controllers , etc. Once you get into those power hungry GPUs, they require more power than 75 watts so depending on the model require any number of 6-pin or 8-pin power connectors. These connectors give direct power from your PSU

Since your not sure, I went ahead and suggested the card I bought as it was a HUGE upgrade, will fit, and only required one PCI-e 6-Pin (The one thats currently powering your 550ti)

Id also check out that Zotac card Dnx mentioned. Thats warranty is a bit hard to pass up.

Doesn't hurt to check youtube and Benchmarking sites to make sure you get the most bang for your buck when choosing what model.
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a b U Graphics card
December 6, 2012 12:39:59 AM

Some Stats (If your curious)

GTX 550 TI
Room was about 78F
Low 32C (90F)
High 82C (180F) Maxed out for 5 hours and it would sometimes get to 85C

MSI GTX 660
Room again about 78F
Low 29-31C (84-87F)
High 69-72C (156-161F)

Heat was a bit scary with HP's case and the 550TI. Thats small heatsink and lack of cooling pipes really allowed for that card to get up into some scary (At least what I think is scary) temps

Since we have the same case. Im sure these stats are relatively the same

I used CRYSIS 1, 2 , Civ V and Red Orchestra 2 for these tests.
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