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Radeon HD 7950 vs GTX 670

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December 3, 2012 11:23:29 PM

Hey everyone,

I am starting a new build soon and one of the things I'm torn on is which GPU to get. I am looking at either the Radeon HD 7950 or the GTX 670, which is significantly more expensive.

I am asking anyone for their experiences or knowledge on the pros and cons of these cards, and which one you would recommend for minor overclocking with slight voltage tweaking.

Just in case this helps, my CPU is an Intel i5 3570k, as this computer is mainly for gaming and video editing.

Thanks!

More about : radeon 7950 gtx 670

a b U Graphics card
December 3, 2012 11:36:43 PM

Okay really with the new AMD drivers the 7950 is a very viable option against the gtx 670. In fact, the 7950 can easily be OCed past the performance of a gtx 670. Really you just need to decide if the 60-80 dollars more is worth the potential 5-6% increases in some games fps. I will link you to my favorite variant of each card;

GTX 670; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD 7950; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Take note that the 7950 from msi comes with a 7970 pcb. Which means a better overall overclocking experience. The GTX 670 used to be voltage unlocked, however i think that might of been reverted due to nvidia crying. This is because those versions of 670s would start stomping on 680s pretty hard.
December 3, 2012 11:37:21 PM

670 > 7950

EDIT: Forgot about the new drivers, the 7950 is alot better.
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a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 9:23:11 AM

The 7950 is definitely not faster, and the average performance difference is more than 5-6%. But yeah, new Catalyst gave a good performance boost, so you're not going to be looking at more than around 10% performance boost. Though there's also PhysX, FXAA and adaptive v-sync from the GTX670 to consider. I'd take the GTX670 personally.
a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 9:32:53 AM

I'd say a 670 was cooler, quieter and faster OC'ed.

Now 670 vs 7970 is a different story.
December 4, 2012 9:34:07 AM

It is really a simple choice. Stock cards, no doubt the 670 is faster, but if you are willing to OC the 7950 is the easy choice. Not only is it by far the better overclocker and value purchase, but it is very likely to pass the 670 in performance.
a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 9:36:53 AM

BriboCN said:
It is really a simple choice. Stock cards, no doubt the 670 is faster, but if you are willing to OC the 7950 is the easy choice. Not only is it by far the better overclocker and value purchase, but it is very likely to pass the 670 in performance.


Maybe a stock 670 but a oc'ed 670 is as fast if not faster than a 680. Some of them even meet an oc'ed 680.
a c 132 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 10:16:58 AM

I just find it funny that people would compare the 7950 to the 670. Now on the other hand if you were to compare the 7970 to the 670 you would have a better case. IN that scenario you have the 7970 narrowly defeating the 670. Like Dark Pravus has said a couple posts ago. And its funny because at some point nvidia will release new drivers and then what if nvidia beats some of these cards people will go and say nvidia all the way and then back and forth stupid fanboyism.

In terms of editing there are programs that benefit a little bit more with CUDA then Opencl (what amd uses). The 500 series was better for editing as the architecture for the 600 series is more directed towards gaming and less towards CUDA computing. Even that being said I think you get a better overall experience with the 670 with editing tossed in if you hadn't tossed in editing I may swing more towards the 7950 because its the better financial spending. The other factors that would go into things would be 3d if you ever intend on doing 3d nvidia does a better job with that and with physx if you are into more eye candy in certain titles borderlands 2, batman games, metro 2033. Other than that AMD is generally the better workhorse of late.
a b U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 10:21:04 AM

7950
December 4, 2012 10:56:56 AM

What the point of this crappy post?You have two eyes.Go see the reviews and decide yourself.Unless you lack some brain cell you should know gtx 670 is faster than 7950.And you can also OC gtx 670 just like 7950.And yeah OC is a lottery.If you get a bad OC then what?Stock performance is what matter most.
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a c 117 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 11:09:50 AM

where did anyone get that a 7950 > 670?

no way. at stock the 670 leaves the 7950 in the dust. if you want to toss in overclocking then it would take an extraordinary overclock for a 7950 to beat a 670. but then to level the playing field, overclock the 670 and its game over for the 7950.

now if you want to talk price/performance with the 7950 being ~20% cheaper for 90% of the performance (depending on the game!) then that would be a better purchase.
a c 132 U Graphics card
December 4, 2012 11:47:51 AM

@Looniam: I agree it just seems silly to compare a 7950 to 670. I was thinking that unless you had something specific that you had to have from a nvidia or amd most people would be just fine with a 7950 you do pay a little more for the 670 but it has gone down in price.
January 3, 2013 4:47:45 PM

Anonymous said:
where did anyone get that a 7950 > 670?

no way. at stock the 670 leaves the 7950 in the dust. if you want to toss in overclocking then it would take an extraordinary overclock for a 7950 to beat a 670. but then to level the playing field, overclock the 670 and its game over for the 7950.

now if you want to talk price/performance with the 7950 being ~20% cheaper for 90% of the performance (depending on the game!) then that would be a better purchase.


are you aware that Nvidia is talking about locking the voltage. and there for in my opinion the hd 7950 is a better buy. and in a wide margin is cheaper. i will agree with you that the gtx 670 is a great card, but there are many things that Nvidia shuts down because of the fact that they are douches. lolz
all in all the 7950 in this case seems like a better choice. ontop of that it depends the games you play.
January 3, 2013 5:19:45 PM

GTX670 are voltage locked, so NO you can't overclock to nearly 7950 levels. Especially if you use one with a 7970 PCB(MSi).

Also everybody here seems to be stuck in last year, 7970 vs GTX670 was only a valid comparison back when you were comparing the non GHz 7970. Now the 7970GHz edition(12.11) crushes GTX670 and when overclocked can equal or even surpass the GTX680. 7950 vs GTX670 is a very valid comparison and even though it may be slower at stock speeds:

-Superior DirectCompute/OpenCL
-384-bit bus, meaning better AA/AF, CF Scaling, multimonitor/high res support.
-Better overclocking
-3GB memory vs 2GB.
-7950 is around 10-20% cheaper than the GTX670
January 3, 2013 6:12:27 PM

darksparten said:
GTX670 are voltage locked, so NO you can't overclock to nearly 7950 levels. Especially if you use one with a 7970 PCB(MSi).

Also everybody here seems to be stuck in last year, 7970 vs GTX670 was only a valid comparison back when you were comparing the non GHz 7970. Now the 7970GHz edition(12.11) crushes GTX670 and when overclocked can equal or even surpass the GTX680. 7950 vs GTX670 is a very valid comparison and even though it may be slower at stock speeds:

-Superior DirectCompute/OpenCL
-384-bit bus, meaning better AA/AF, CF Scaling, multimonitor/high res support.
-Better overclocking
-3GB memory vs 2GB.
-7950 is around 10-20% cheaper than the GTX670

Get some brain cells.First of all thread is OLD.Op is long gone.And here is current drivers reviews.
http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-ge...
a b U Graphics card
January 4, 2013 6:14:00 AM

I wish the OP would go with a best answer.

In my opinion the 7950 is better than a 660ti just because it takes AA better and I enjoy AA in my games however a gtx 670 oc'ed is so close to a oc'ed 680 it's not worth any extra money.

You just wouldn't notice a difference. A 7970 performs great in the new AMD evolved games but then nvidia has the edge in other things.

To conclude, regardless if your red or green, just buy a damned card and enjoy it.
February 12, 2013 3:44:43 PM

prototype18 said:
http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/...

Here it is a new review.

In most of the games 670 Wins. So there is no doubt about this Q.

Get 670 the clear winner !


So here is my question and I know the OP is gone but was he referring to the 7950 non-boost or the 7950 Boost? Because in your techspot review the boosted card, which can be found on Newegg at ~$300.00, are with in 3-7 FPS. The only outliers are Dragon Age 2 and Deus Ex: Human Revolution. While some games showed the 7950 boost above the 670 by the same FPS margin. While on Sleeping Dogs and the Witcher 2, the 7950 boost either met or bested even the 680 gtx.

I only bring this up because there are clearly 2 different 7950's on the board for that review.

And looking more into the review...at least from newegg, Techspot went with the Gigabyte versions of the 670 which are at $379.99 and $389.99(not sure which one they used since they just gave memory size) vs HIS which are at $299.99 for a boost to 925 and $349.99 for a 950 boost state.

Power consumption is only different by 2 watts on load.

So what I guess I'm getting at is yes the 7950 non-boost card shouldn't be compared to the 670. It is more fit to be up against the 660Ti.

However for the same price or close to it, you could get the 7950 boosted and be competing against the 670.
February 16, 2013 10:32:02 AM

I dunno what OP got but would like to add my experience hoping it would help someone reading this.
Stay clear from HD 7950. This card is a MICRO-STUTTERING GOD! No matter what others say about overclocking DO NOT BUY THIS CARD. I have an Asus HD 7950 and it micro-stutters in all games. Use FRAPS and use FRAFS Bench to plot frame time and you'll see huge spikes running up and down. This totally ruins the gameplay if you want a smooth gaming experience. I'm going to return my card tomorrow and upgrading to a Asus GTX 670 DC2.. About the extra memory, Witcher 2 EE uses less than 1.4GB in every map. I logged my whole gameplay of Witcher 2 with MSI AB..
HD 7950 SUCKS!
a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 1:52:35 PM




Nice post of all the AMD evolved games there ;) 

The 670 is a class up. It can run with the 680's and 7970's. The 7950 gets no where close currently
a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 3:17:03 PM

GTX 670 is simply faster. It's more efficient as well. It uses lower power than the Radeon 7950 while it still performs better.

Tomshardware even claims it is right behind Radeon 7970.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-revi...

Don't listen to anyone claiming that Radeon 7950 is faster. It's not. Why do you think people often compare the Radeon 7950 with the GTX 660 Ti? Because those 2 are close to being equal. Radeon 7950 is a little ahead of those two though.

a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 3:26:42 PM

7950 has 3gbs versus 2. overclocked to 7970 levels witch is easy beats it. and levelsa 680 and somethime overclocked further beats the 680 100% of the time.

simple answer 7950 is a beast and is a better bang for bucks than the 670. but the 670 is quite strong as well.

an overclocked 670 can level a overclocked 7950. but still costs 50$ more.

so 7950 wins for best bang for bucks here. but if you need cuda support and adaptive vsync than 670 be ur win here.

a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 3:45:06 PM

iceclock said:
rofl. fail answer. 7950 has 3gbs versus 2. overclocked to 7970 levels witch is easy beats it. and levelsa 680 and somethime overclocked further beats the 680 100% of the time.

simple answer 7950 is a beast and is faster than a 670.

an overclocked 670 can level a overclocked 7950. but still costs 50$ more.

so 7950 wins for best bang for bucks here.


You just said that 7950 is faster than 670, but 670 is faster than 7950? That makes no sense at all.

It's not, and I would like to see the benchmarks where a Radeon 7950 beat a GTX 680 in a non-favored AMD game.
a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 3:47:18 PM

look up. been edited.

i dint phrase that very well

a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 3:51:31 PM

iceclock said:
look up. been edited.

i dint phrase that very well


Still a GTX 670 is faster and that is what the OP asks about. AMD will always have the best value, it's the only way they can compete with Nvidia. If AMD had similar prices with Nvidia and both GPUs had the about the same performance, then what do you think would happen to AMD?

a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 4:09:43 PM

faster at stock. but onced overclocked different story.

a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 4:12:57 PM

iceclock said:
faster at stock. but onced overclocked different story.


Show me where an overclocked Radeon 7950 exceeds an overclocked GTX 670. Because I can't find any.

February 16, 2013 4:17:58 PM

All I see is pointless arguments from either side. Leave the thread alone. Theres more than enough information to help the OP choose his card. Btw that guy who was flipping out from Micro-Stuttering is an idiot. The 7950 has no problems(unless crossfired) with micro-stuttering.
a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 4:20:58 PM

cool story bro.

the micro-stuttering is still appearant somethimes. mostly been fixed via driver but its not 100% fixed.

so your comment is not accurate protogenic.

a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 5:58:46 PM

yeah exactly new ati drivers are faster :) . case taken

a b U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 6:15:28 PM

iceclock said:
yeah exactly new ati drivers are faster :) . case taken


Same are new Nvidia drivers.
a c 251 U Graphics card
February 16, 2013 6:16:03 PM

The OP makes a thread in Dec of 2012 and then does not respond to any of the answers posted ? Seems like he abandoned the thread or is just reading the answers and not commenting.
Either way it's time for it to be closed.
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